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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 9:38am

PC puts feelings over facts.  You can't speak with facts because it hurts my feelings.  How do you find a middle ground in that ?

This is how Political Correctness really works.  It stops rationality and common sense from happening and causes word play to be the new reality.  

 
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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 9:11am

 islander wrote:

I'm with you on trigger warnings and much of the hyper nannyism that occurs. But so much of the "we're too PC" stuff seems to go well beyond that and deep into the realm of "Things were better back in the good old days", which sounds a lot like there is a dog whistle tag that goes "when women and colored folks knew their place".

It's possible to be too PC, but it should be countered with being rude, obnoxious, bullies. The world has moved, there is a middle ground that needs to be achieved.

 
I agree and it is the reasonable people like us that get squeezed out from the loud, obnoxious zealots of both the left and the right.  I am afraid common sense and intellectual honesty are the real losers in all of this din.
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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 8:17am

 DaveInVA wrote: 
That was a great article. Identity politics and political correctness is killing the West. Sweden and Canada are really far gone, perhaps beyond recovery. 

 
In the words of Ben Garrison:

TRUMP SLAYS THE DRAGON OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

 

One of the reasons for Trump’s popularity is he speaks from the heart and not a teleprompter. He doesn’t need a script and he’s not afraid to speak bluntly. Most of all, he’s not afraid of 'political correctness.' He’s not afraid to say “Merry Christmas” or call illegal immigration ‘illegal.’ He’s for respecting our laws, which includes closing down the currently wide open borders. For that he’s called a nut and a racist and a hater and all sorts of things. He doesn’t care.

 

For too long we’ve been subjected to cynical, pre-packaged political robots who are installed to further the agenda of globalists at the top. They buy out and own the politicians. Well, Trump can’t be bought out. He’s already rich. Lobbyists will not be able to control him. Personal scandals? He’s fearless. His life is already an open book. We know about his marriages and affairs and it doesn’t matter. Because instead of walking delicately on politically correct eggshells, he fearlessly stomps his feet and says “Enough!” He wants to stop exporting jobs overseas. He wants to stop making crappy deals such as the one Obama and Kerry just made with Iran—a deal that didn’t even return American captives. A deal that allows Iran to do their own inspecting. Deals where we give our leverage away for nothing while giving billions back to a country bent on hating America and destroying Israel. I doubt Trump would have made that deal.

 

Trump is used to dealing and getting things done. Telling blunt truths is apparently is not politically correct in either party, but so be it. Many Americans find Trump’s approach to be very refreshing—including me!—Ben Garrison

 


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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 7:50am

 DaveInVA wrote: 
{#Yes}

Political correctness is a creed, and the creed holds that American conservatives are ignorant, stupid, and evil. This has been the creed for a generation, but people are angry now because we see, for the first time, political correctness powering an administration and a federal bureaucracy the way a big V-8 powers a sports car. The Department of Justice contributes its opinion that the IRS was guilty of no crime — and has made other politically slanted decisions too; and those decisions all express the credo of thought-police liberalism, as captured by the motto soon to be mounted (we hear) above the main door at the White House, the IRS, and the DOJ: We know what's best; you shut up.
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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 7:46am

 DaveInVA wrote: 
I'm with you on trigger warnings and much of the hyper nannyism that occurs. But so much of the "we're too PC" stuff seems to go well beyond that and deep into the realm of "Things were better back in the good old days", which sounds a lot like there is a dog whistle tag that goes "when women and colored folks knew their place".

It's possible to be too PC, but it shouldn't be countered with being rude, obnoxious, bullies. The world has moved, there is a middle ground that needs to be achieved.


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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 7:25am

The Elephant in the Room


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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 4:20am


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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 - 5:32am

I would have changed my vote if he'd said, "You there, with the glasses. I want you. I want you right up front. THERE YOU GO! How does it feel?"
and I think Huntsman might've done just that.

 
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Posted: Feb 20, 2016 - 4:49am

The irony is rich with the orange one.  Paints himself as a renegade, but in reality just like the rest of them a vote for Trump is a vote for the status quo. 
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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 11:10pm

A very different (and very mainstream) story...

In 2002, Donald Trump Said He Supported Invading Iraq
“Are you for invading Iraq?” Howard Stern asked him, and Trump answered, “Yeah, I guess so.”
(...) In September, asked about his Iraq War opposition, Trump said this: “You can check it out, check out — I’ll give you 25 different stories.”

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Posted: Feb 17, 2016 - 9:51am

 miamizsun wrote:
because teleprompters

and don't laugh but according to the powers that be, the wwe/wwf crowd is large (estimated 12 mil or so watch it weekly and about 75% are of voting age) 

i don't know how many vote regularly but a few million folks could make a difference

they could vote that guy right into the whitehouse

  Or this guy.



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Posted: Feb 17, 2016 - 7:59am

 aflanigan wrote:

So you are naive enough to believe that everything you see on TV is unscripted? That nothing is ever staged for the audience's benefit?
 

because teleprompters


and don't laugh but according to the powers that be, the wwe/wwf crowd is large (estimated 12 mil or so watch it weekly and about 75% are of voting age)

i don't know how many vote regularly but a few million folks could make a difference

they could vote that guy right into the whitehouse


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Posted: Feb 17, 2016 - 6:50am

 rotekz wrote: 
So you are naive enough to believe that everything you see on TV is unscripted? That nothing is ever staged for the audience's benefit?

 


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Posted: Feb 17, 2016 - 3:45am


You can’t plan something like this…
At a Trump campaign rally in North Augusta, South Carolina on Tuesday, Donald Trump was interrupted by a protester who was screaming profanities and raising his middle finger to the crowd.

Two Trump supporters “took action” against the radical obscene protester – and Mr. Trump called them up to the stage to share a few words.

The crowd ERUPTED after one of the men told the audience he was an Iraq War veteran.

 

Both men thanked Donald Trump.

MUST SEE VIDEO–






rotekz

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Posted: Feb 17, 2016 - 3:44am


You can’t plan something like this…
At a Trump campaign rally in North Augusta, South Carolina on Tuesday, Donald Trump was interrupted by a protester who was screaming profanities and raising his middle finger to the crowd.

Two Trump supporters “took action” against the radical obscene protester – and Mr. Trump called them up to the stage to share a few words.

The crowd ERUPTED after one of the men told the audience he was an Iraq War veteran.

 

Both men thanked Donald Trump.

MUST SEE VIDEO–






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Posted: Feb 16, 2016 - 2:31pm

 haresfur wrote:

I have to say it is one of my favourite conspiracy theories. Let's wait until we are over 7 years into Obama's term so there is guaranteed to be a messy appointment process. Then, rather than murdering him at some convenient location like, say DC, wait until he's out in west bumfuck Texas surrounded by nothing but tumbleweeds and his closest cronies...

 
And on the anniversary of the day Dick Cheney shot his other bird-hunting buddy in the face.
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Posted: Feb 16, 2016 - 2:20pm

 Beaker wrote:
Trump flirts with suggestion that Scalia was murdered

Fucking idiot.  With his recent comments about 'Bush knew' and this, he's in full-on tinfoil hat / truther mode.

And some want to elect this asshat to the Oval?  Get a grip.

 
I have to say it is one of my favourite conspiracy theories. Let's wait until we are over 7 years into Obama's term so there is guaranteed to be a messy appointment process. Then, rather than murdering him at some convenient location like, say DC, wait until he's out in west bumfuck Texas surrounded by nothing but tumbleweeds and his closest cronies...
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Posted: Feb 16, 2016 - 12:45pm

 rotekz wrote: 
I agree that the significance of most of Trump's statements to the media is essentially meaningless (or, as Boyle puts, it, 
"cannot be understated"), so why is Boyle even talking about it if it is so trivial?

Perhaps Boyle meant to say, "cannot be overstated?"

Overstate/Understate 

 

 
Pro tip: If a political pundit is discussing a political race and is arguing that the importance of something they are writing about "cannot be overstated", you can be confident that this is classic hype, and they have little faith in its actual significance.

 
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Posted: Feb 15, 2016 - 4:10pm


If the RNC screws Trump he runs as an independent. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/15/donald-trump-since-rnc-in-default-pledge-now-voided-i-can-do-what-i-have-to-do-to-win/

HANAHAN, South Carolina — 2016 GOP presidential frontrunner Donald J. Trump tells reporters here that his pledge to support the eventual GOP nominee is now void because the Republican National Committee, along with local and state GOP factions, is stacking debate audiences with donor class officials.

“The RNC is in default,” Trump said at the press conference. “Just so you understand, the RNC is in default. When somebody is in default, that means the other side can do what they have to do. The RNC is in default.”

Trump’s point is that the RNC has defaulted—through its actions against his candidacy—on the pledge he signed earlier in the cycle, and his point is that because they have defaulted he can do whatever he wants. Trump is signaling he may not support the eventual GOP nominee in 2016 if that nominee is not him.

The significance of this development can’t be understated. The entire GOP presidential primary election has focused on this question, which was launched to the center of discussion by the first question at the first GOP debate in Cleveland, Ohio, back in August, 2015. That question, by Fox News’s Bret Baier, asked all the candidates on stage to raise their hands if they would support the eventual GOP nominee. Trump was the only one who didn’t raise his hand. That, and several other unseemly questions from Fox’s Megyn Kelly about Trump and women, catapulted into public view a then-private war between Trump and Fox that has lasted publicly to this day.



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Posted: Feb 13, 2016 - 4:33pm

Nude Trump Portrait Gives New Meaning to 'Making America Great Again' NSFW
Feminist artist Illma Gore says the artwork, which quickly went viral, shows 'you can be a big prick, despite what’s in your pants.'

Might be worth a bit of money some day...
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