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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Aug 4, 2016 - 3:48pm |
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Aug 4, 2016 - 3:42pm |
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VV wrote: I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy. This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.
I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!
Agree 100% As nutty as he is, he knows he'll have his ass handed to him in a debate; therefore it will never happen.
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VV
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Aug 4, 2016 - 3:22pm |
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Lazy8 wrote: VV wrote:I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy. This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.
I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"! Then we can have layer upon layer of conspiracy theories:He was working for Hillary all along and now he'll become Secretary of State. - He's doing it to pump up real estate prices on a man-made offshore private country he's secretly building, hoping to sell to people looking for a retreat for the End Times he's working so hard to bring about
- It's all part of a reality TV show starting on Fox next season; he's being followed by cameras everywhere he goes and he needs to sell ads
- He lost a golf bet in 2014 and had to put on the most elaborate practical joke in history as a consequence
If he thinks he can just go back to his business empire after this he is beyond delusional. The Trump Brand used to be just tacky; now it's toxic. I thought about this. I think he'll be toxic in terms of ever trying to enter the political arena again. I can't see that ever happening under any circumstances. Forget about trying to become a political power broker either... not going to happen. In terms of his "brand"... yes, it will take a hit but I think he could rebound. I don't think his businesses would go under. He could just state that he was letting his kids run his businesses and lay low for a while before he actively takes the reins again. In terms of his international dealings? I think that he could actually see an increase in business there which would offset any domestic hit that he would take. Think about it... wouldn't there be increased interest in any potential foreign business partners to want to meet the maverick/oddity that made a serious bid to become president? He could play that to his advantage. The thing that will dog him for a very long time will be that the press will quickly jump on anything that he does while wearing his "business hat" that is at odds with what he expressed as a presidential candidate. They will be quick and merciless in exposing any hypocrisy as he certainly hasn't scored any goodwill with the press.
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kcar
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Aug 4, 2016 - 3:06pm |
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kurtster wrote: :bump: for those who do not backscroll
Kurtster, ScottN's post gives a link to a CNBC article on Scarborough's report that Trump asked a foreign policy expert why we couldn't nuclear weapons during a briefing that took place "several months ago." That article contains a video clip of Scarborough stating that rumor on MSNBC TV. Scarborough's report has been picked up by a number of news sites, as shown by re-doing the Google search I performed: https://www.google.com/searchq=Trump+responds+to+Joe+Scarborough+report+on+using+nuclear+weapons&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT0NHJ36jOAhWi7YMKHfr5Az0Q_AUICCgB If that link doesn't work, try it via tinyurl.com: https://tinyurl.com/h7lsebhNote that the Google search I performed tried to find a response by Trump to Scarborough's report. I looked only at the first two pages of hits from that Google search but could find no link to a comment, rebuttal or refutation from Trump or his staff concerning that Scarborough statement. So Trump does not seem to be denying Scarborough's report. That's the best I can do for you. It'd be great if the foreign policy expert in question stepped forward, but he/she may not want to for fear of damage to career or some sort of reprisal.
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steeler
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Aug 4, 2016 - 3:05pm |
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kurtster wrote: Since I did ask a question in my post, why don't you take a stab at it and then I'll answer your's.
I think if Trump really does not have a handle on the deterrence theory of nuclear weapons, it is a serious concern.
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 3:01pm |
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steeler wrote: kurtster wrote: No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity. If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.
I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.
And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ? I don't get that either. This is pretty serious stuff, imo.
What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.
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How do you feel about his statements suggesting that the U.S. might not come to the aid of Baltic nations under NATO in the event of a Russian invasion unless those Baltic nations had met their obligations to the U.S.? And his very recent comments that Putin would not invade the Ukraine? Since I did ask a question in my post, why don't you take a stab at it and then I'll answer your's.
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 2:51pm |
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VV wrote:I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy. This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.
I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"! Then we can have layer upon layer of conspiracy theories:He was working for Hillary all along and now he'll become Secretary of State. - He's doing it to pump up real estate prices on a man-made offshore private country he's secretly building, hoping to sell to people looking for a retreat for the End Times he's working so hard to bring about
- It's all part of a reality TV show starting on Fox next season; he's being followed by cameras everywhere he goes and he needs to sell ads
- He lost a golf bet in 2014 and had to put on the most elaborate practical joke in history as a consequence
If he thinks he can just go back to his business empire after this he is beyond delusional. The Trump Brand used to be just tacky; now it's toxic.
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Steely_D
Location: Biscayne Bay Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 2:49pm |
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VV wrote: I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy. This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.
I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!
That would actually give a third party candidate a snowball's chance.
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 2:26pm |
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VV wrote: I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!
I'm tempted to call your "all in" bet with some salsa or sweet corn, but I'm afraid I might lose.
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meower
Location: i believe, i believe, it's silly, but I believe Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 2:16pm |
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VV wrote: I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy. This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point.
I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!
that sounds like a great plan.
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VV
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Aug 4, 2016 - 2:13pm |
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Steely_D wrote: This does not means he's dropping out. It's like wearing a seat belt - you do it just in case.
I'm just employing the "where there's smoke"... there's fire philosophy. This exploration didn't just randomly pop up by accident so soon after the convention. I think it's possibly being fueled by Trump and his insiders. I think Trump has a number in his head that... if the polls indicate he is trailing Hillary by... he's going to pull the plug. I'm also thinking that the last thing he wants to do is match up with Hillary in the debates and get embarrassed. Either situation could be a tipping point. I'm going "all in" that he quits. I would be very surprised if that doesn't happen. He probably will wait until the debates to quit and employ the "scorched earth" approach. If I go down... I'm taking my party with me and leave little time to have them prop up an alternate candidate. "That'll show 'em"!
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bokey
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Aug 4, 2016 - 2:12pm |
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VV wrote:
Finally... a voice of reason! Are you wrongfully incarcerated and waiting on death row? Suffering a debilitating illness that causes intense pain with every waking moment? If not, your mega-whining is hollow.
If everything sucks so bad perhaps you're just living in sh*tty country and are in need a change of scenery? I hear Canada is nice.
Congrats...in that one post you've effectively negated all your previous posts and sounded more stupid than anything Trump has demonstrated so far.
Glad to help.Let me know if you need anything.
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VV
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Aug 4, 2016 - 1:48pm |
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bokey wrote: Here is my honest opinion-fuck Trump,Fuck Hillary,fuck this world and everyone in it.Let them all fucking die like the dumbass pieces of shit that they are.
This world wants to be Obamatized? Fine,fuck it all.
Nuke this fucking piece of shit planet and kill every living thing on it.
Finally... a voice of reason! Are you wrongfully incarcerated and waiting on death row? Suffering a debilitating illness that causes intense pain with every waking moment? If not, your mega-whining is hollow. If everything sucks so bad perhaps you're just living in sh*tty country and are in need a change of scenery? I hear Canada is nice. Congrats...in that one post you've effectively negated all your previous posts and sounded more stupid than anything Trump has demonstrated so far.
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Steely_D
Location: Biscayne Bay Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 1:03pm |
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This does not means he's dropping out. It's like wearing a seat belt - you do it just in case.
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bokey
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Aug 4, 2016 - 1:00pm |
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VV wrote:What? You were expecting an emoji instead? OK here ya go: C'mon don't tell me you want the distinction of being the last man on the Titanic? The ship is sinking before your very eyes. Far smarter people than you or I in the Republican party can see it...
Play the role of martyr if you like. My bet is that Trump is working on concocting a litany of excuses/blame for why he had to quit the race. I think that (while there is still a choice) he would rather be seen as a quitter than a loser. I'm betting there is a 90% or better chance that he'll drop out before the first debate. I suppose that if he quits you will still support his decision and rationalize his reasons for doing so? Or will you take the tougher road and man-up and say... yeah, the guy wasn't cut out for the job? Here is my honest opinion-fuck Trump,Fuck Hillary,fuck this world and everyone in it.Let them all fucking die like the dumbass pieces of shit that they are. This world wants to be Obamatized? Fine,fuck it all. Nuke this fucking piece of shit planet and kill every living thing on it.
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steeler
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Aug 4, 2016 - 12:26pm |
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kurtster wrote: No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity. If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.
I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.
And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ? I don't get that either. This is pretty serious stuff, imo.
What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.
2¢
How do you feel about his statements suggesting that the U.S. might not come to the aid of Baltic nations under NATO in the event of a Russian invasion unless those Baltic nations had met their obligations to the U.S.? And his very recent comments that Putin would not invade the Ukraine?
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 12:08pm |
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kurtster wrote: No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity. If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence.
I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters.
And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ? I don't get that either. This is pretty serious stuff, imo.
What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle.
2¢
See HERENoonan doesn't say it explicitly, but it appears he thinks that even if the anecdote is not true, and Trump is simply a narcissist rather than certifiably unhinged, he is not fit for the POTUS job.
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 12:03pm |
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Proclivities wrote: Even if it's true it's just one of scores of gaffes, absurdities and outright lies that Trump has committed,
No, it's not in the class of a gaffe or absurdity. If it's true, I think that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of Trump supporters or those on the fence. I'll give you that Trump supporters give him a pass on a lot of things, but to think this would get a pass is pretty demeaning to the actual intelligence of Trump supporters. And to lump it into the category of a gaffe or absurdity by those who oppose Trump, how could it be shrugged off as meaningless if its true ? I don't get that either. This is pretty serious stuff, imo. What will be telling is how long it lasts in the news cycle. 2¢
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Aug 4, 2016 - 11:17am |
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VV wrote:
I've stopped trying to follow every outrage, but that article's pretty interesting. For the record, I think he'll stay in, but would not be surprised at all if he does drop out. In the absence of our Trump shill who quit posting here knock on wood after the primaries were wrapped up, I'll just point out that Dilbert's cartoonist, who has been blogging about Trump for months, still says Trump's going to win in a landslide. With non-politicians still offering up that kind of encouragement, I think he'll stick around.
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