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Posted: May 24, 2024 - 9:43pm

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And from what I have heard Zuckerberg is budgeting $500 million all by himself for 2024.

This election will be determined by algorithms, A I, and turnout.  It is hard to believe that most minds are not already made up.  It will be about fear and emotion to drive the voters off the couch; out of apathy and do something.

Biden will get 100 million votes to Trump's 80 million.
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Posted: May 14, 2024 - 6:00pm

Biden’s polling denial: Why he doesn't believe he's behind
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Posted: May 14, 2024 - 8:03am

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A red MAGA hat may as well be a swastika. 



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Posted: May 14, 2024 - 7:49am

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 A red MAGA hat may as well be a swastika. 
 
Yeah, right.

What party again is the home of antisemitism in this country ?  It sure ain't the republicans.

Want autocrats ?  You want Biden & Co. to be sure.  You want to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats, not Congress.

Oh and Biden just lambasted China with Trump style tariffs.

Everyone here went nutz over Trump for his tariffs.  Let's see what you all do now with Joe's.
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Posted: May 14, 2024 - 4:55am

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And Hillary is a shoo-in

Polling is an interesting process to me, exactly for the reason you point out.

My unscientific analysis of your comment on 2016 is that the MAGA voters were in hiding.  They knew then that Trump was all the things we know he is now, but to them, the choice was better than another Clinton.  They weren't necessarily going to admit that out loud... but they voted that way.

Fast forward to this year, and the MAGAverse wears anarchy as a badge of honor.  A red MAGA hat may as well be a swastika. They not only aren't embarrassed, but they go out of their way to demonstrate fealty.   They want to be polled.  They answer the phone when it rings.  

Now, the left is begrudgingly supportive of Biden.  Every non-Trump voter wishes something would happen before the convention, but if it doesn't, in November, they will vote Biden in defense of democracy.  The autocrat will be defeated quietly.  No need to telegraph the plan just in case Trump wins, but the majority will show up against Trump (in PA and MI and WI), the very same way they showed up against Hillary.  
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Posted: May 14, 2024 - 1:41am

 R_P wrote:
LOL



And Hillary is a shoo-in
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Posted: May 13, 2024 - 11:20am

 black321 wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Only to set the record straight, the initial raid of the so called SS Trust Fund began in the 60's during the war in Viet Nam in order to fund the war.  That is when the first I O U 's were "deposited". Now we know since the Obama Administration that there is no Trust Fund other than a column for bookkeeping purposes.  That all monies are mixed in the general fund as declared that during one of the earliest government shutdowns during his term then that it was very likely that SS checks would not be paid, just to keep this simple.  That was the scare tactic used. Texas ?  I would suggest California and New York instead ...

I thought that was Johnson, and that bookkeeping rule was reversed in the 90s.  
What everyone knows is raygun started taxing these benefits. 
and sell California? The home state of the gipper?
 
It is also my home state.  I'm a second gen native, the wife is a fifth gen native.

It has been ruined beyond repair, imo.  Give it back to Spain.  Even better, Russia.  They had a foothold there, too.

The gipper was from Illinois ...
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Posted: May 13, 2024 - 11:09am

LOL

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Posted: May 11, 2024 - 6:35am

 kurtster wrote:

Only to set the record straight, the initial raid of the so called SS Trust Fund began in the 60's during the war in Viet Nam in order to fund the war.  That is when the first I O U 's were "deposited".

Now we know since the Obama Administration that there is no Trust Fund other than a column for bookkeeping purposes.  That all monies are mixed in the general fund as declared that during one of the earliest government shutdowns during his term then that it was very likely that SS checks would not be paid, just to keep this simple.  That was the scare tactic used.

Texas ?  I would suggest California and New York instead ...

I thought that was Johnson, and that bookkeeping rule was reversed in the 90s.  
What everyone knows is raygun started taxing these benefits. 
and sell California? The home state of the gipper?

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Posted: May 9, 2024 - 7:22am

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don't forget vermin supreme
"everybody has a right to a pony"


Well, they’re part of his big picture platform. Free ponies. Along with the flying monkeys to check your dental health.

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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 4:53pm

 kurtster wrote:

Only to set the record straight, the initial raid of the so called SS Trust Fund began in the 60's during the war in Viet Nam in order to fund the war.  That is when the first I O U 's were "deposited".

Now we know since the Obama Administration that there is no Trust Fund other than a column for bookkeeping purposes.  That all monies are mixed in the general fund as declared that during one of the earliest government shutdowns during his term then that it was very likely that SS checks would not be paid, just to keep this simple.  That was the scare tactic used.

Texas ?  I would suggest California and New York instead ...


Those IOUs are mostly what's called Treasury notes, bills or bonds. They are some of the safest securities ever. You probably have some. If you do and are really concerned, I'll buy them all from you today at 9% discount. Let me know. 
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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 4:27pm

 kurtster wrote:

Only to set the record straight, the initial raid of the so called SS Trust Fund began in the 60's during the war in Viet Nam in order to fund the war.  That is when the first I O U 's were "deposited".

Now we know since the Obama Administration that there is no Trust Fund other than a column for bookkeeping purposes.  That all monies are mixed in the general fund as declared that during one of the earliest government shutdowns during his term then that it was very likely that SS checks would not be paid, just to keep this simple.  That was the scare tactic used.

Texas ?  I would suggest California and New York instead ...

Careful what you wish for. CA & NY account for over 22% of the entire US gross domestic product. Good luck without that.


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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 4:09pm

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But of course, the funds going into SS have been raided by congress to fund other programs for decades.

My suggestion is to sells assets. 
We can start with Texas
 
Only to set the record straight, the initial raid of the so called SS Trust Fund began in the 60's during the war in Viet Nam in order to fund the war.  That is when the first I O U 's were "deposited".

Now we know since the Obama Administration that there is no Trust Fund other than a column for bookkeeping purposes.  That all monies are mixed in the general fund as declared that during one of the earliest government shutdowns during his term then that it was very likely that SS checks would not be paid, just to keep this simple.  That was the scare tactic used.

Texas ?  I would suggest California and New York instead ...
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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 4:01pm

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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 3:37pm

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don't forget vermin supreme
"everybody has a right to a pony"


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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 3:14pm

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The important part of the story is him saying (not someone else theorizing) that he has “short-term and long-term memory” problems.

Anyone still on his team is just casting a not-Biden/not-Trump vote and they’re gonna mess everything up, a la Nader or Stein.



don't forget vermin supreme
"everybody has a right to a pony"
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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 2:15pm

 black321 wrote:

This may be just what Kennedy needs to get a jump in the polls!  


Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s campaign is responding following a report from the New York Times saying that years ago doctors found a dead worm in his brain.

The Times reported Wednesday that doctors noticed a dark spot in brain scans for Kennedy after he experienced memory loss in 2010 and concluded he had a brain tumor, according to a 2012 deposition. He received a call from another doctor who believed that it was not a tumor, and was instead a dead parasite.


Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 'contracted a parasite' during travels, his team says after NYT report (msn.com)




The important part of the story is him saying (not someone else theorizing) that he has “short-term and long-term memory” problems.

Anyone still on his team is just casting a not-Biden/not-Trump vote and they’re gonna mess everything up, a la Nader or Stein.

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Posted: May 8, 2024 - 1:40pm

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Talk about worms dead and living, here's one for number crunchers and career politicians and their enablers...





Well, when it started out, it was more of a safety net than a retirement entitlement benefit...and most people only lived a few years, right?
But of course, the funds going into SS have been raided by congress to fund other programs for decades.
Too late to solve that problem, $ is gone, spent on guns, roads, benefits of others...
Could cut the benefit, extend the age requirement or other means.
My suggestion is to sells assets. 
We can start with Texas
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