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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:59am

 Proclivities wrote:
 meower wrote:

I actually do agree with you on this one.

But, to be clear, this doesn't remind me of someone not getting their gifts on time. If there truly is a national shortage of IV bags, it is a big problem. 


Plus, the larger point of that image post was that a territory of the United States is seemingly being all but ignored by this administration.

 











This from that well known right wing publication Politico:





https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/01/puerto-ricos-tragedy-was-years-in-the-making-215662











From the article, hardly abstaining Trump but also reminding us that we really don't know what is going on and making the "by this administration" somehow seem incomplete and perhaps a little partisan even.





"We would feel more comforted by the federal government’s assurances if it had done more—done anything at all, really—to prevent this catastrophe. Because while Washington, D.C., couldn’t stop Maria in its tracks, its treatment of Puerto Ricans as second class citizens is what upgraded this hurricane from natural disaster to human tragedy.





In 2015, Congress imposed a fiscal control board on Puerto Rico in order to pay down our debt. President Barack Obama signed the legislation into law a year later, taking away the financial autonomy of our island and placing it in the hands of seven bureaucrats, three of whom aren’t even Puerto Rican."












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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:50am

 Proclivities wrote:
 
Plus, the larger point of that image post was that a territory of the United States is seemingly being all but ignored by this administration.

 
Hey - they're just brown people.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:49am

 Proclivities wrote:
 meower wrote:

I actually do agree with you on this one.

But, to be clear, this doesn't remind me of someone not getting their gifts on time. If there truly is a national shortage of IV bags, it is a big problem. 


Plus, the larger point of that image post was that a territory of the United States is seemingly being all but ignored by this administration.

 
Right! I got distracted by being called a snowflake
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:48am

 meower wrote:

I actually do agree with you on this one.

But, to be clear, this doesn't remind me of someone not getting their gifts on time. If there truly is a national shortage of IV bags, it is a big problem. 


Plus, the larger point of that image post was that a territory of the United States is seemingly being all but ignored by this administration.
meower

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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:35am

 sirdroseph wrote:
 meower wrote:

can you imagine if someone had had to hold their own IV bag during Obama's admin? 

 


I know, right? It is almost as if they would whine and blame the President for it, oh wait they did and so does the other half of the country depending on who gets elected and the beat goes on.......

 
I actually do agree with you on this one.

But, to be clear, this doesn't remind me of someone not getting their gifts on time. If there truly is a national shortage of IV bags, it is a big problem.


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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:28am

 meower wrote:

can you imagine if someone had had to hold their own IV bag during Obama's admin? 

 


I know, right? It is almost as if they would whine and blame the President for it, oh wait they did and so does the other half of the country depending on who gets elected and the beat goes on.......


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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:25am

 meower wrote:

can you imagine if someone had had to hold their own IV bag during Obama's admin? 

 
I know, right?
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:21am

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{#Yes}Or maybe the point is that Americans have done without for months now while their "leader" seems oblivious to them...But of course I could be wrong.

 
can you imagine if someone had had to hold their own IV bag during Obama's admin? 
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:19am

 meower wrote:

yes. it's very similar to not have IV bags and not have your Christmas presents on time. As a matter of fact, I would not rather have one than the other

 
{#Yes}Or maybe the point is that Americans have done without for months now while their "leader" seems oblivious to them...But of course I could be wrong.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:11am

 sirdroseph wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Flippin' cry baby.  Should be grateful there is a Plan B.  FWP {#Rolleyes}

 


Yep, reminds of me of that lady who is upset UPS did not delivery her grandsons presents in time for Christmas and was making a literal federal national case out of it. This is why the world hates us, we are spoiled and whiny and spread that attitude all over the world in our citizens travels or like in this case social media.

 
yes. it's very similar to not have IV bags and not have your Christmas presents on time. As a matter of fact, I would not rather have one than the other


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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:10am

 kurtster wrote:

Flippin' cry baby.  Should be grateful there is a Plan B.  FWP {#Rolleyes}

 

Yep, reminds of me of that lady who is upset UPS did not delivery her grandsons presents in time for Christmas and was making a literal federal national case out of it. This is why the world hates us, we are spoiled and whiny and spread that attitude all over the world in our citizens travels or like in this case social media. Your problem below is a freekin' luxury in the third world, pal.


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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 6:00am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


 
Flippin' cry baby.  Should be grateful there is a Plan B.  FWP {#Rolleyes}
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 - 4:53am


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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 7:54pm

“Caught RED HANDED - very disappointed that China is allowing oil to go into North Korea. There will never be a friendly solution to the North Korea problem if this continues to happen!” Trump wrote.
America's greatest diplomat.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 7:32pm

He is clearly unstable. He has no business occupying the office.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 6:40pm

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#fuckingidiot
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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 6:05pm

Trump tweets that 'cold' East Coast 'could use a little bit of' global warming


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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 2:39pm

 sirdroseph wrote:
 kcar wrote:


Wait, what?!?! You're paying $650/person/month in premiums? That's insane. Are you in an area with only a few insurance companies? I'd be a Debbie Downer if I had to pay that much for coverage. 

 
Sh&*t, virtually everyone I know pays that much or more. I saw a string in FB today where someone was complaining about their ridiculous premiums and how they could not afford them and on down the line everyone was posting what they pay and I am telling you it is scary out there. Fortunately my insurance is reasonable at around 400 a month, but the deductible and coverage sucks. Single payer; full on free market, what difference does it make at these costs?? Seriously here are just some of the long list of circumstances that real people are paying: "Our lil family of 4 is 1800/mo" "My family insurance is just above $1,200 a month. I have an out of pocket deductible of $7,500 and our regular doctor has ditched the insurance system so we pay out of pocket to see him. It is a crazy system." "I'm so so so thankful that I just got a state job! Our insurance will actually be affordable!! Through the marketplace this year it would be $1000 a month for my little 3 person family with a 10k deductible!" "my husband is the only one of us to have health insurance. and that's only because his boss worked it into his salary instead of giving him a raise. It would cost us almost $1000 each month to add the munchkin and myself to his plan. We just can't do that. The pediatrician charges $75 for 'global' self pay. Includes any and all tests needed, only extras are x-rays. A self pay visit for me is $95. We applied through the government for assistance, and were denied, so we don't have to pay the tax fine for not carrying insurance we cannot afford. — also I want to add that prior to Obamacare, we were paying out of pocket for health insurance for all 3 of us, and it was under $450 per month for a reasonable plan. Same plan is over $1500 now." "My husband and I pay $1400/month just for the two of us." "We stopped at one kid so we can still afford cool shit for ourselves. Selfish as hell but I'm sure my kid is pretty happy getting all kinda shit and all the attention. My husband's insurance through his company is free for him but for me and my daughter it's close to $300 a week we're forced to pay because you can't just not have insurance anymore." "We can't afford insurance so we just don't have it. I'm lucky I have healthy kids. Knock on wood" "Same here. The insurance i could afford wouldnt cover my doctor or medication . .. So after doing the math(i pay about 800 annually cash ) there was no insurance that came close to saving us anything it was either premiums were more than that and add in deductible so i would have to pay twice. Our farm insurance and business insurance covers accidental injury. So... I would actually be paying 3x the amount i am already paying in cash. And. It just didnt work out."
And it goes on and on and on.........

 
yep its absolute craziness.  We are squeezed because we are not quite destitute yet to qualify for the subsidy and not rich enough to afford out of pocket insurance at 1300 a month.  Thanks for rolling back the regulation to have it in the first place, Trump.  Now we get no healthy people paying into the plan and the premiums go nowhere but up. 

sirdroseph

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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 12:21pm

 kcar wrote:


Wait, what?!?! You're paying $650/person/month in premiums? That's insane. Are you in an area with only a few insurance companies? I'd be a Debbie Downer if I had to pay that much for coverage. 

 




Sh&*t, virtually everyone I know pays that much or more. I saw a string in FB today where someone was complaining about their ridiculous premiums and how they could not afford them and on down the line everyone was posting what they pay and I am telling you it is scary out there. Fortunately my insurance is reasonable at around 400 a month, but the deductible and coverage sucks. Single payer; full on free market, what difference does it make at these costs?? Seriously here are just some of the long list of circumstances that real people are paying:

"Our lil family of 4 is 1800/mo"

"My family insurance is just above $1,200 a month. I have an out of pocket deductible of $7,500 and our regular doctor has ditched the insurance system so we pay out of pocket to see him. It is a crazy system."

"I'm so so so thankful that I just got a state job! Our insurance will actually be affordable!! Through the marketplace this year it would be $1000 a month for my little 3 person family with a 10k deductible!"

"my husband is the only one of us to have health insurance. and that's only because his boss worked it into his salary instead of giving him a raise. It would cost us almost $1000 each month to add the munchkin and myself to his plan. We just can't do that. The pediatrician charges $75 for 'global' self pay. Includes any and all tests needed, only extras are x-rays. A self pay visit for me is $95. We applied through the government for assistance, and were denied, so we don't have to pay the tax fine for not carrying insurance we cannot afford. — also I want to add that prior to Obamacare, we were paying out of pocket for health insurance for all 3 of us, and it was under $450 per month for a reasonable plan. Same plan is over $1500 now."

"My husband and I pay $1400/month just for the two of us."

"We stopped at one kid so we can still afford cool shit for ourselves. Selfish as hell but I'm sure my kid is pretty happy getting all kinda shit and all the attention. My husband's insurance through his company is free for him but for me and my daughter it's close to $300 a week we're forced to pay because you can't just not have insurance anymore."

"We can't afford insurance so we just don't have it. I'm lucky I have healthy kids. Knock on wood"

"Same here. The insurance i could afford wouldnt cover my doctor or medication . .. So after doing the math(i pay about 800 annually cash ) there was no insurance that came close to saving us anything it was either premiums were more than that and add in deductible so i would have to pay twice. Our farm insurance and business insurance covers accidental injury. So... I would actually be paying 3x the amount i am already paying in cash. And. It just didnt work out."


And it goes on and on and on.........


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Posted: Dec 28, 2017 - 11:58am

 pigtail wrote:

I love your optimism.  I hope you're right.  I just feel so disgusted.  I am paying over $1300.00 a month in health care premiums for my husband and I just to feel confident that if we collapse in the streets, we will have some place to look after us and possibly keep us alive.  I know I am a Debbie downer.  I'm just feeling the squeeze and getting sick of idiots telling me how great Trump and his tax plan that I STILL know nothing about!

 

Wait, what?!?! You're paying $650/person/month in premiums? That's insane. Are you in an area with only a few insurance companies? I'd be a Debbie Downer if I had to pay that much for coverage. 
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