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Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 8:00am

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That Dimon video is from last winter i believe? Not really a fan of Rubin, but Dimon is mostly correct in how he assesses democrats and their response/reaction to republicans.
The same can be said for the republicans, and how they respond to the democrats...neither wants the other to get a win, regardless of the cost to the country.
Immigration is a prime example...trump offered a reasonable immigration deal and schumer made sure it went nowhere. Then, Biden had his deal that more or less gave the republicans what they wanted, and trump shut it down...both parties being led to the slaughter by the fringes. 
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Posted: Sep 27, 2024 - 4:35am


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Posted: Sep 10, 2024 - 10:12am

Ohio you say?
There is a long history of conservative politicians and pundits denigrating Haitian immigrants in particular, including with baseless allegations of cannibalism, according to historians who have studied the former French colony.

Viles Dorsainvil, president of the Haitian Community Help and Support Center, a nonprofit organization in Springfield, condemned the recent rumors as uninformed and racist.

“It’s just bigotry, discrimination and racism,” he said. “There is a group of people who have been fabricating some news just to denigrate Haitians.”
MJ


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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 5:06pm

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How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?


What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ?  Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels.  With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years.  I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking.  How do you take them out ?  And this is just Mexico.

The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r).  Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ?  This isn't about migration.  Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed.  Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash.  A win / win for both sides.

Or did I miss something ?

Like the US has ever forced a system of government that actually works properly on any country in the Americas. Done in a few that were starting to work well, though. 

If you want to start solving the problem, Marshall Plan the shit out of the place. Help develop a thriving economy entwined to benefit all of N America, Like the pre-trump free trade agreement was set up to do. 

Oh, and stop being the number one supplier of arms to the cartels.

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 12:50pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
dunno how to get the embedded pic to show, which is where the meat is...

Just add the image separately and like any other image:

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 3:28am


dunno how to get the embedded pic to show, which is where the meat is...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:57am

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Well, duh ...  It is the crack that keeps the addicted victims passive.

You benefit economically. Like subsidized gas. Cheap bananas. But at a deferred (real) cost.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:50am

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That's how you get cheap meat/vegetables/fruit/labor. Consider it a subsidy. Like poverty or hunger, if there was a desire to fix the problem, it would be fixed. Instead it brings net benefits (to some).
 
Well, duh ...  It is the crack that keeps the addicted victims passive.

People stay in power by managing problems, not by fixing them. 

No problems to manage ?  Create some, aka general chaos ... 

Poly Science 101.  aka rules for radicals ...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:20am

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Sorry, this is 100% my own personal argument, not someone else's.

This is modern day human slavery we are talking about.  This is criminal behaviour, not bad government.  The cartels get the government they pay for.

That's how you get cheap meat/vegetables/fruit/labor. Consider it a subsidy. Like poverty or hunger, if there was a desire to fix the problem, it would be fixed. Instead it brings net benefits (to some).

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 11:04am

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 kurtster wrote:
whooooshhhh ...

The sound of ignoring the (original) argument. Instead there's a Fox transcript.
 
Sorry, this is 100% my own personal argument, not someone else's.

This is modern day human slavery we are talking about.  This is criminal behaviour, not bad government.  The cartels get the government they pay for.

Hard to see how someone so well versed in history from a country that ran the African slave trade not understanding this.

Holland's greatest export commodity used to be slaves.

While the Dutch wouldn't allow domestic slave ownership, they had no problem going to Africa, capturing the slaves and exporting them to where ever.

You might have more to live down than Americans do when it comes down to slavery.

Just sayin'
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 10:13am

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whooooshhhh ...

The sound of ignoring the (original) argument. Instead there's a Fox transcript.

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 10:03am

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 Sounds like you want more wars/coups. Muh sovereignty!
 
whooooshhhh ...
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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 10:01am

 kurtster wrote:

How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?

What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ?  Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels.  With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years.  I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking.  How do you take them out ?  And this is just Mexico.

The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r).  Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ?  This isn't about migration.  Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed.  Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash.  A win / win for both sides.

Or did I miss something ?

Sounds like you want more wars/coups. Muh sovereignty!

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Posted: Jun 29, 2024 - 9:58am

 R_P wrote:
 
How are you going to fix these problems that are causing the migrants to migrate in the first place without going to war to force a different system (new government that actually works properly) on the country in question citizens ?

What about Mexico which has become a NARCO state ?  Nobody crosses our southern border without paying the $10 k toll to the cartels.  With a very safe estimate of 10 million crossings under Biden's authority that comes out to $100 billion in a little over 3 years.  I don't care who or what you are, that's a lot of money. And its all cash. That does not even count the income from drugs. Its just from the human trafficking.  How do you take them out ?  And this is just Mexico.

The cartels are scaring the bejeezus out of the citizenry so they want to flee to the good ole US and be safe(r).  Guess who collects the toll to cross the bridge to safety ?  This isn't about migration.  Its about human trafficking and Biden is the enabler leaving the border wide open to let the cartels succeed.  Biden gets chaos out of the deal to force authoritarian "solutions" and the cartels get cash.  A win / win for both sides.

Or did I miss something ?
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