Beck — Heart is a Drum
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Free as a driving wheel
Circling around your iron will
See only what you feel
Keeps you turning when you're standing still
You tried to run from trouble when it comes
You followed the drum keeping time with everyone
High as the light of day
You're falling down across your lost highway
Pain - does it hurt this way?
To come so far to find they've closed the gates?
You've lost your tongue when you fall from the pendulum
Your heart is a drum keeping time with everyone
Everyone, if they drown from the undertow
Need to find someone to show me how to play it slow
And just let it go
Your eyes get stung by the rays of the sinking sun
You follow the drum keeping time with everyone
Going beat beat beat, it's beating me down
Beat beat beat beat, it's beating me down
Day after day, it's turning around
'Til all my days are drowning out
Circling around your iron will
See only what you feel
Keeps you turning when you're standing still
You tried to run from trouble when it comes
You followed the drum keeping time with everyone
High as the light of day
You're falling down across your lost highway
Pain - does it hurt this way?
To come so far to find they've closed the gates?
You've lost your tongue when you fall from the pendulum
Your heart is a drum keeping time with everyone
Everyone, if they drown from the undertow
Need to find someone to show me how to play it slow
And just let it go
Your eyes get stung by the rays of the sinking sun
You follow the drum keeping time with everyone
Going beat beat beat, it's beating me down
Beat beat beat beat, it's beating me down
Day after day, it's turning around
'Til all my days are drowning out
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The whole album is great!
Soothing and easy to listen to.
Rob57 wrote:
Certainly glorious and original it channeled my mind towards the Moody Blues in its essence and low and behold followed seamlessly by "Visions of Paradise"!! Perfect human programming!!!
I've lost count of the times I've heard an interesting song on RP and it's turned out to be Beck. I assumed this was the Moody Blues... great track!
Certainly glorious and original it channeled my mind towards the Moody Blues in its essence and low and behold followed seamlessly by "Visions of Paradise"!! Perfect human programming!!!
chinaski wrote:
Awww…
What a wonderful afternoon I had.
Metro'd down to the Smithsonian stop.
Strolled along Independence Ave. reeling in the years of the Washington DC I lived in 40 years ago.
Amazed myself at the Smithsonian Castle where I worked at back then.
The National Gallery blew my mind with all the wondrous beauty within.
So many Impressionist favorites from back in the day still on the walls where hopefully they'll be for all eternity for everyone to see.
My eyes welled up with tears of emotion in the gallery salons as it was all so beautiful and brought back so many memories. Youth is indeed fleeting. And I still miss her so.
A walk along downtown streets where so much is now unrecognizable to my old eye.
I Metro'd home, greeted my cat with lots of pets and Beck's Heart of a Drum came on.
Perfect end to a perfect day.
Thank you Bill!
I hope I dream of the National Gallery tonight.
Awww…
My favorite Beck album. I also appreciate the comments in reply to my previous post regarding my day revisiting downtown D.C. where I lived and worked between '76 and '90 and returned for good in 2017. I love Washington D.C. as others love their favorite cities and am so glad the Old Post Office Building did indeed lose the tainted name it briefly held.
Anyway thanks RP for playing such wonderful material!
Anyway thanks RP for playing such wonderful material!
Beck is seriously one of the most consistent songwriters ever. Every single album is good all the way through… Who does that today?? BECK
xcranky_yankee wrote:
You'd be pleased to know the name was removed from the building in May of 2022 when the hotel changed hands.
You'd be pleased to know the name was removed from the building in May of 2022 when the hotel changed hands.
I read the actor Rip Torn refers admiringly to Beck as: “that hillbilly from outer space”. Perfect.
chinaski wrote:
What a wonderful afternoon I had.
Metro'd down to the Smithsonian stop.
Strolled along Independence Ave. reeling in the years of the Washington DC I lived in 40 years ago.
Amazed myself at the Smithsonian Castle where I worked at back then.
The National Gallery blew my mind with all the wondrous beauty within.
I hope I dream of the National Gallery tonight. Hope you dreamt of this and still do.
Kazoo and i stayed in a rented room and spent hours at the National Gallery - loved Homer's watercolors. Was my first (hopefully not the last) trip to DC and all that disappointed me then was the HUGE political banner on a formerly beautiful building that someone leased for (99 years?) way too long.
john24 wrote:
If you hadn't heard Sea Change first, would Morning Phase be the better album?no, the sea changed this
If you hadn't heard Sea Change first, would Morning Phase be the better album?
When I hear this song, I am instantly moved to joy and contentment. The whole album is bliss. Takes his music to a new level. Up there with the best of the best.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame knocking! 
So smooth.
Always an interesting artist.
xcranky_yankee wrote:
We both thought Sea Change was a fantastically sad sounding terrific album. The Morning Phase sounds like he was coming through a difficult time. Also enjoy this album but Sea Change had an edge lacking on this, imho
If you hadn't heard Sea Change first, would Morning Phase be the better album?
We both thought Sea Change was a fantastically sad sounding terrific album. The Morning Phase sounds like he was coming through a difficult time. Also enjoy this album but Sea Change had an edge lacking on this, imho
If you hadn't heard Sea Change first, would Morning Phase be the better album?
To me beck is the tom cruise of music
ALWAYS, elusively interesting, this man.
You never know what he is going to spring on you.
A soaring delight.
I normally don't like a lot of double tracking and reverb, but Beck gets a pass... he does great soundscapes with his songs. Sucks that all he's really known for in the mainstream is that song "Loser"... I guess that proves your average Joe doesn't have good taste.
Me again. Thank you Bill!
Proclivities wrote:
"Exact"? Are you sure about that? It's a different chord progression with the same strumming style - "homage" is a better term. Anyhow, I believe Stanley Clarke plays bass on this number.
one of my favorite bass players back in the day! Glad to hear he is still around...or was in 2014...God time flies...
"Exact"? Are you sure about that? It's a different chord progression with the same strumming style - "homage" is a better term. Anyhow, I believe Stanley Clarke plays bass on this number.
one of my favorite bass players back in the day! Glad to hear he is still around...or was in 2014...God time flies...
this album is outstanding. Just brilliant from start to finish. 3 Grammy awards! Brilliant production, the detail, the space in between. Should be in every collection
Goosebumps. The piano is sublime. This was and continues to be my pandemic song.
From Billie Eilish to a quiet Beck song. This mellow mix is better than any blood pressure medicine!
ziakut wrote:
Excellent album overall - go for it.
So far, what I've heard from this album...it is stellar. Hope the rest is great. I'm thinking of actually purchasing this.
Excellent album overall - go for it.
JeriF wrote:
Long for these days, again.
I'm too excited... I scored seats (row 10, center!) at one of his upcoming live shows. Its gonna be soooooo awesome!!
Long for these days, again.
jimdeeks wrote:
The Moodies, or Pink Floyd? I think more the latter... sounds very much like David Gilmour to me.
to my ear more the Moodies
The Moodies, or Pink Floyd? I think more the latter... sounds very much like David Gilmour to me.
to my ear more the Moodies
Just a beautiful, ethereal song.....
jimdeeks wrote:
The Moodies, or Pink Floyd? I think more the latter... sounds very much like David Gilmour to me.
I can see that, I never made that connection before but it makes some sense.
The Moodies, or Pink Floyd? I think more the latter... sounds very much like David Gilmour to me.
I can see that, I never made that connection before but it makes some sense.
Rob57 wrote:
The Moodies, or Pink Floyd? I think more the latter... sounds very much like David Gilmour to me.
I've lost count of the times I've heard an interesting song on RP and it's turned out to be Beck. I assumed this was the Moody Blues... great track!
The Moodies, or Pink Floyd? I think more the latter... sounds very much like David Gilmour to me.
Beck just ages like some really good wine, that's all I got to say ...
chinaski wrote:
A truly epic afternoon! Thank you for sharing it.
What a wonderful afternoon I had.
Metro'd down to the Smithsonian stop.
Strolled along Independence Ave. reeling in the years of the Washington DC I lived in 40 years ago.
Amazed myself at the Smithsonian Castle where I worked at back then.
The National Gallery blew my mind with all the wondrous beauty within.
So many Impressionist favorites from back in the day still on the walls where hopefully they'll be for all eternity for everyone to see.
My eyes welled up with tears of emotion in the gallery salons as it was all so beautiful and brought back so many memories. Youth is indeed fleeting. And I still miss her so.
A walk along downtown streets where so much is now unrecognizable to my old eye.
I Metro'd home, greeted my cat with lots of pets and Beck's Heart of a Drum came on.
Perfect end to a perfect day.
Thank you Bill!
I hope I dream of the National Gallery tonight.
A truly epic afternoon! Thank you for sharing it.
murdog wrote:
We both thought Sea Change was a fantastically sad sounding terrific album. The Morning Phase sounds like he was coming through a difficult time. Also enjoy this album but Sea Change had an edge lacking on this, imho
Admitted Beck-aholic. But for those who haven't heard Sea Change, sit down, and enjoy what I think is one of the rare perfect albums. I think Morning Phase is a bit of a B-Side, though lovely, just as Dreams is a B for the incredible Midnight Vultures. Stay positive!
We both thought Sea Change was a fantastically sad sounding terrific album. The Morning Phase sounds like he was coming through a difficult time. Also enjoy this album but Sea Change had an edge lacking on this, imho
I like the sound of Beck, and musically it's interesting enough. But the lyrics are just bollocks.
Love this song! It has such a warm, summery feel to it.
My favorite tune from an overall excellent album.
Two comments: How does he keep so trim? And -- he's obviously had a David Gilmour stent put in. More power to him, I guess.
This album is a masterpiece.
I love how versatile the sound of Beck is. I don't like every album but i definitely love some of his works.
I love how versatile the sound of Beck is. I don't like every album but i definitely love some of his works.
Cameron Crowe used this to great effect in the soundtrack to his less-than-stellar movie Aloha back in 2015. The flick is a little incoherent and a little schmaltzy, but the scene that uses this song works well because of the song. Worth a look once or twice a decade. The movie does have cameos of important Hawaiian musicians such as Led Kaapana playing some slack key!
What a wonderful track to ease into the day to take off the edge off the news headlines. Thank you Bill!
I've lost count of the times I've heard an interesting song on RP and it's turned out to be Beck. I assumed this was the Moody Blues... great track!
What a wonderful afternoon I had.
Metro'd down to the Smithsonian stop.
Strolled along Independence Ave. reeling in the years of the Washington DC I lived in 40 years ago.
Amazed myself at the Smithsonian Castle where I worked at back then.
The National Gallery blew my mind with all the wondrous beauty within.
So many Impressionist favorites from back in the day still on the walls where hopefully they'll be for all eternity for everyone to see.
My eyes welled up with tears of emotion in the gallery salons as it was all so beautiful and brought back so many memories. Youth is indeed fleeting. And I still miss her so.
A walk along downtown streets where so much is now unrecognizable to my old eye.
I Metro'd home, greeted my cat with lots of pets and Beck's Heart of a Drum came on.
Perfect end to a perfect day.
Thank you Bill!
I hope I dream of the National Gallery tonight.
love this! so smooth
His mellow stuff starting from Sea Change sound the same. Like made from one long, long album. Not bad in any way, but dejavu.
without a doubt this is Beck's most complete album! a full piece of art from start to finish!!
Thanks Bill!
Beck hits that trippy vibe just often enough to keep me coming back.
His Wikipedia photo 
reminds me of a young David Spade.
reminds me of a young David Spade. Steely_D wrote:
I agree with this. It's an exact rip off copy homage.
"Exact"? Are you sure about that? It's a different chord progression with the same strumming style - "homage" is a better term. Anyhow, I believe Stanley Clarke plays bass on this number.
I agree with this. It's an exact rip off copy homage.
"Exact"? Are you sure about that? It's a different chord progression with the same strumming style - "homage" is a better term. Anyhow, I believe Stanley Clarke plays bass on this number.
Given that I have commented negatively about almost all of Beck's output - with the exception of Golden Age and E-Pro - I feel I should say this track is far less objectionable than most.
I'm obviously feeling chipper today!
I'm obviously feeling chipper today!
agkagk wrote:
That's a joke?
Beck - Heart is a Drum (feat. Justin Hayward)
That's a joke?
my favourite Beck song. it is a masterpiece.
Admitted Beck-aholic. But for those who haven't heard Sea Change, sit down, and enjoy what I think is one of the rare perfect albums. I think Morning Phase is a bit of a B-Side, though lovely, just as Dreams is a B for the incredible Midnight Vultures. Stay positive!
8 --> 9
silky...
silky...
On_The_Beach wrote:
"You kids get off my lawn!"
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
"You kids get off my lawn!"
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
fredGarvin wrote:
Mayberry's barber. Was the tenor in the quartet. Gomer was bass. Andy baritone. Aunt Bea was the lead. Did a lot of a cappella covers of psychedelic rock back in the day.
On_The_Beach wrote:
Who's he?
Mayberry's barber. Was the tenor in the quartet. Gomer was bass. Andy baritone. Aunt Bea was the lead. Did a lot of a cappella covers of psychedelic rock back in the day.
Who's he?
Mayberry's barber. Was the tenor in the quartet. Gomer was bass. Andy baritone. Aunt Bea was the lead. Did a lot of a cappella covers of psychedelic rock back in the day.
It's a beautiful song in every way. Who cares who it sounds like?
Hey a Moody Blues track I haven't heard before. I like it.
Hannio wrote:
"You kids get off my lawn!"
You never heard of Old Man Floyd?
"You kids get off my lawn!"
On_The_Beach wrote:
Who's he?
You never heard of Old Man Floyd?
Who's he?
You never heard of Old Man Floyd?
gjeeg wrote:
Who's he?
Also reminds of old Floyd.
Who's he?
Also reminds of old Floyd.
Steely_D wrote:
I agree with this. It's an exact rip off copy homage.
Oh man does this need to segue into Godley & Creme's "I Pity Inanimate Objects."
I agree with this. It's an exact rip off copy homage.
netalie.sharon345 wrote:
Yes.
This album is perfection.
Yes.
What netalie.sharon says. This album is perfection. I knew it'd win a Grammy long before the event.
Cut n' pasted from Wikipedia:
"Upon release the album received critical acclaim and was nominated for five awards at the 57th Annual Grammy Awards, winning three: Album of the Year, Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical and Best Rock Album. Along with winning the award, Chris Martin collaborated with Beck to sing "Heart Is a Drum" at the Grammys."
Cut n' pasted from Wikipedia:
"Upon release the album received critical acclaim and was nominated for five awards at the 57th Annual Grammy Awards, winning three: Album of the Year, Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical and Best Rock Album. Along with winning the award, Chris Martin collaborated with Beck to sing "Heart Is a Drum" at the Grammys."
This album is perfection.
Beck - Heart is a Drum (feat. Justin Hayward)
Oh man does this need to segue into Godley & Creme's "I Pity Inanimate Objects."
HAL10000 wrote:
Blame the love, not the song.
Am I allowed to give this song a one star because it reminds me of a past summer love that stills rubs my heart the wrong way? 
Blame the love, not the song.
I love this album - just not this song.
Does anyone else hear Roger McGuinn and The other Byrds in this cut?
A thing of beauty.
A LITTLE EARLY SIMON AND GARFUNKEL FEEL / ONE OF MY FAV'S FOR 2014
Suzl wrote:
exactly what I thought - and now its segued with the Moody Blues - very cool
A Moody Blues feelin.... 
exactly what I thought - and now its segued with the Moody Blues - very cool
Am I allowed to give this song a one star because it reminds me of a past summer love that stills rubs my heart the wrong way?
So far, what I've heard from this album...it is stellar. Hope the rest is great. I'm thinking of actually purchasing this.
for me it sounds like a mixture of shearwater and Asgeir from Island
whom I never heard on RP. Unfortunatly Bill ! He is outstanding
whom I never heard on RP. Unfortunatly Bill ! He is outstanding
Best song on a great album. 10.
No means NOOOOOOOOOOooooooOoooo!!!!
Yessssssssssssssssssssssss
crogers wrote:
Trouble is, those books of fables are not innocent. They have been given the power, by those who would have more power, to make people do things — ridiculous things and unspeakable things. They twist people's perceptions of reality in ways that make them forget and/or ignore what's really happening around them. The purveyors of the books and the pushers of the fables insist that only "faith" is needed to conquer anything that works against their idea of what is right. The ones who really buy into the fables take it even further: some to the point of trusting the treatment of their own desperately sick child to a deity and some who espouse that eradication of the "others" is a requirement for favorable treatment in the "afterlife". There are few things on this planet more dangerous, either physically or socioculturally, than a religious zealot. It would all make an incredibly scary science fiction movie if it were not actually true. Believing that religion is a benign construct that "keeps people happy and out of trouble" is to ignore reality in much the same way...
Freedom of religion is core to who we are as a free people. But it is not above the law. Criminal conspiracy by a religious group is still criminal conspiracy. There are cases where religious people (e.g. the Reverend MLK) break the law because they believe a higher morality is at stake. The state always has the legal right to arrest and prosecute when this happens. In MLK's case, he made sure that his activities were non-violent and the public rallied to his defense. This is where the line is. If you don't like my religion then say anything you like—your opinions are just noise because I have the right to my religion whether you like it or not. Is this a great country, or what? Do something to violate my religious rights and you are committing a crime. On the other hand, if I am in my church, synagogue, or mosque planning criminal activity then all bets are off. This really isn't hard or gray. This is why the authorities have the right and obligation (in my view) to insure that criminal activity is not going on behind closed doors in mosques/synagogues/churches.
Trouble is, those books of fables are not innocent. They have been given the power, by those who would have more power, to make people do things — ridiculous things and unspeakable things. They twist people's perceptions of reality in ways that make them forget and/or ignore what's really happening around them. The purveyors of the books and the pushers of the fables insist that only "faith" is needed to conquer anything that works against their idea of what is right. The ones who really buy into the fables take it even further: some to the point of trusting the treatment of their own desperately sick child to a deity and some who espouse that eradication of the "others" is a requirement for favorable treatment in the "afterlife". There are few things on this planet more dangerous, either physically or socioculturally, than a religious zealot. It would all make an incredibly scary science fiction movie if it were not actually true. Believing that religion is a benign construct that "keeps people happy and out of trouble" is to ignore reality in much the same way...
Freedom of religion is core to who we are as a free people. But it is not above the law. Criminal conspiracy by a religious group is still criminal conspiracy. There are cases where religious people (e.g. the Reverend MLK) break the law because they believe a higher morality is at stake. The state always has the legal right to arrest and prosecute when this happens. In MLK's case, he made sure that his activities were non-violent and the public rallied to his defense. This is where the line is. If you don't like my religion then say anything you like—your opinions are just noise because I have the right to my religion whether you like it or not. Is this a great country, or what? Do something to violate my religious rights and you are committing a crime. On the other hand, if I am in my church, synagogue, or mosque planning criminal activity then all bets are off. This really isn't hard or gray. This is why the authorities have the right and obligation (in my view) to insure that criminal activity is not going on behind closed doors in mosques/synagogues/churches.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shifting gears . . . this song, "Heart is a Drum", is simply beautiful.
wgsu_1978 wrote:
Very well put. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps people happy and out of trouble, I don't care what book of fables they believe in. Because they're all describing roughly the same thing, and nobody has it exactly right.
Trouble is, those books of fables are not innocent. They have been given the power, by those who would have more power, to make people do things — ridiculous things and unspeakable things. They twist people's perceptions of reality in ways that make them forget and/or ignore what's really happening around them. The purveyors of the books and the pushers of the fables insist that only "faith" is needed to conquer anything that works against their idea of what is right. The ones who really buy into the fables take it even further: some to the point of trusting the treatment of their own desperately sick child to a deity and some who espouse that eradication of the "others" is a requirement for favorable treatment in the "afterlife". There are few things on this planet more dangerous, either physically or socioculturally, than a religious zealot. It would all make an incredibly scary science fiction movie if it were not actually true. Believing that religion is a benign construct that "keeps people happy and out of trouble" is to ignore reality in much the same way...
Very well put. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps people happy and out of trouble, I don't care what book of fables they believe in. Because they're all describing roughly the same thing, and nobody has it exactly right.
Trouble is, those books of fables are not innocent. They have been given the power, by those who would have more power, to make people do things — ridiculous things and unspeakable things. They twist people's perceptions of reality in ways that make them forget and/or ignore what's really happening around them. The purveyors of the books and the pushers of the fables insist that only "faith" is needed to conquer anything that works against their idea of what is right. The ones who really buy into the fables take it even further: some to the point of trusting the treatment of their own desperately sick child to a deity and some who espouse that eradication of the "others" is a requirement for favorable treatment in the "afterlife". There are few things on this planet more dangerous, either physically or socioculturally, than a religious zealot. It would all make an incredibly scary science fiction movie if it were not actually true. Believing that religion is a benign construct that "keeps people happy and out of trouble" is to ignore reality in much the same way...
wgsu_1978 wrote:
Very well put. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps people happy and out of trouble, I don't care what book of fables they believe in. Because they're all describing roughly the same thing, and nobody has it exactly right.
No, I have it exactly right! I'm right. Me!!!
Very well put. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps people happy and out of trouble, I don't care what book of fables they believe in. Because they're all describing roughly the same thing, and nobody has it exactly right.
No, I have it exactly right! I'm right. Me!!!
stegokitty wrote:
Well that was a bit of a novella, but there it is.
Very well put. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps people happy and out of trouble, I don't care what book of fables they believe in. Because they're all describing roughly the same thing, and nobody has it exactly right.
Well that was a bit of a novella, but there it is.
Very well put. As far as I'm concerned if it keeps people happy and out of trouble, I don't care what book of fables they believe in. Because they're all describing roughly the same thing, and nobody has it exactly right.
stunix wrote:
aaaaand back to music...... just music.
aaaaand back to music...... just music.
You mean and leave the squirmy little brainworms that infest us all behind? That suggests we abandon the bottomless debate over religion, which, like every other politicized question, has its entrenched sides with endless arguments and counter arguments, definitions and redefinitions, shifting proofs and truths. I suggest that we throw our hands up and say with Martin Luther that: "Next to the Word of God, the noble art of music is the greatest treasure in the world."
Stingray wrote:
aaaaand back to music...... just music.
I really do not understand why RP is playing music of a hardcore SCIENTOLOGIST.
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
aaaaand back to music...... just music.
Stingray wrote:
Wow ... I mean ... wow. Lemmtellyasumthin', I'm a Bible-believing, theologically conservative Christian, who is (naturally) opposed to the cult of Scientology, but I fail to see what relevance that has on the value of Beck's music. He's an amazingly talented musician and composer. He performed more than half of the instruments in his latest effort Morning Phase, and his other albums are fine examples of eclectic musical fabulousness.
For that matter, another of my favorite entertainment "celebrities" is Tom Cruise (yet another Scientologist). His spiritual beliefs do not affect his value as a human being (made in the image of God) nor of his abilities to entertain by means of acting. I've really enjoy virtually every film he's done.
But the problem with Scientology isn't as big as you're making it out to be. You're failing to recognize the fact that every non-Christian religion or cult is equally as dangerous as the other. Any spirituality leading a person away from the one, true God is damnable. Just as it was merely the eating of the forbidden fruit by our first parents in the Garden, not some outrageously heinous act such as murder, which plummeted not only them but all their posterity, into an estate of sin and misery, with the wrath and judgement of God upon them.
Certainly some will object to my exclusive remarks here, but that's not a problem, and it changes reality not one bit. 2+2=4 is the truth, no matter who says it, no matter if they are Mother Theresa or Adolph Hitler, no matter if the whole world says otherwise; and the God of the Bible, the one Who has revealed Himself specifically in these last days as the Lord Jesus, is the only true God.
But on a completely practical level, Scientology affects a very, very, VERY small number of people, as it's a religion that costs money (and a lot of it) in order to gain ascendancy to the higher levels. It cannot be that which preys upon the poor, but only on the vanities of the wealthy. And even at that point, amongst the wealthy, the disciples of L.Ron Hubbard's cult are few and far between.
With that said, I'm sure I could, by virtue of my own personal Bible study, training as an officer in the Church, and from years of sitting under the teaching of theologically sound ministers of Word and Sacrament, find plenty wrong with your own theological position, especialy based upon your shocked and awed response to the presence of the music of a pagan on a non-Christian-specific radio station. For that matter, most of what's to be heard on the so-called "Contemporary Christian" radio stations is nothing more than what can be called "Jesus is my boyfriend" songs, and other sappy, songs containing innocuous, or even anti-Christian lyrics, though no doubt it wasn't their intention to do so.
Well that was a bit of a novella, but there it is.
I really do not understand why RP is playing music of a hardcore SCIENTOLOGIST.
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
Wow ... I mean ... wow. Lemmtellyasumthin', I'm a Bible-believing, theologically conservative Christian, who is (naturally) opposed to the cult of Scientology, but I fail to see what relevance that has on the value of Beck's music. He's an amazingly talented musician and composer. He performed more than half of the instruments in his latest effort Morning Phase, and his other albums are fine examples of eclectic musical fabulousness.
For that matter, another of my favorite entertainment "celebrities" is Tom Cruise (yet another Scientologist). His spiritual beliefs do not affect his value as a human being (made in the image of God) nor of his abilities to entertain by means of acting. I've really enjoy virtually every film he's done.
But the problem with Scientology isn't as big as you're making it out to be. You're failing to recognize the fact that every non-Christian religion or cult is equally as dangerous as the other. Any spirituality leading a person away from the one, true God is damnable. Just as it was merely the eating of the forbidden fruit by our first parents in the Garden, not some outrageously heinous act such as murder, which plummeted not only them but all their posterity, into an estate of sin and misery, with the wrath and judgement of God upon them.
Certainly some will object to my exclusive remarks here, but that's not a problem, and it changes reality not one bit. 2+2=4 is the truth, no matter who says it, no matter if they are Mother Theresa or Adolph Hitler, no matter if the whole world says otherwise; and the God of the Bible, the one Who has revealed Himself specifically in these last days as the Lord Jesus, is the only true God.
But on a completely practical level, Scientology affects a very, very, VERY small number of people, as it's a religion that costs money (and a lot of it) in order to gain ascendancy to the higher levels. It cannot be that which preys upon the poor, but only on the vanities of the wealthy. And even at that point, amongst the wealthy, the disciples of L.Ron Hubbard's cult are few and far between.
With that said, I'm sure I could, by virtue of my own personal Bible study, training as an officer in the Church, and from years of sitting under the teaching of theologically sound ministers of Word and Sacrament, find plenty wrong with your own theological position, especialy based upon your shocked and awed response to the presence of the music of a pagan on a non-Christian-specific radio station. For that matter, most of what's to be heard on the so-called "Contemporary Christian" radio stations is nothing more than what can be called "Jesus is my boyfriend" songs, and other sappy, songs containing innocuous, or even anti-Christian lyrics, though no doubt it wasn't their intention to do so.
Well that was a bit of a novella, but there it is.
Stingray wrote:
Lets start requiring everyone to state their allegiance to the one true GOD! Yes that's right, I mean major league sports in 'Murica. Hail the mighty sports juggernaut! All bow down! Sitting in front of the TV so much is really a bigger problem. Most sane people know that Scientology is crap. If Beck is gaining some personal insights by practicing it then that's his business.
Seriously though I didn't even know Beck was a Scientologist and frankly don't care. I haven't seen him ranting and spouting his belief system publicly.
Shall we next ban everyone else who's religion or beliefs don't jive with your own? Muslims next perhaps? Atheists too, I mean they sure are "destructive" when it comes to religion. Oh noes think of the chillin.
By the way, the correct term is "posterboy", perhaps TV has damaged your ability to spell?
I really do not understand why RP is playing music of a hardcore SCIENTOLOGIST.
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
Lets start requiring everyone to state their allegiance to the one true GOD! Yes that's right, I mean major league sports in 'Murica. Hail the mighty sports juggernaut! All bow down! Sitting in front of the TV so much is really a bigger problem. Most sane people know that Scientology is crap. If Beck is gaining some personal insights by practicing it then that's his business.
Seriously though I didn't even know Beck was a Scientologist and frankly don't care. I haven't seen him ranting and spouting his belief system publicly.
Shall we next ban everyone else who's religion or beliefs don't jive with your own? Muslims next perhaps? Atheists too, I mean they sure are "destructive" when it comes to religion. Oh noes think of the chillin.
By the way, the correct term is "posterboy", perhaps TV has damaged your ability to spell?
Stingray wrote:
"Scientology turned my skin green."
I really do not understand why RP is playing music of a hardcore SCIENTOLOGIST.
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
"Scientology turned my skin green."
I really do not understand why RP is playing music of a hardcore SCIENTOLOGIST.
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
We all know the XXXTREME DAMAGE this cult is doing to society.
BECK is one of the postboys for this cult and should be banned from RP!
crogers wrote:
Nah - maybe it's just time to chill and listen. Put away your preconceived notions and prejudices and give it a chance with new ears and an open mind. Beautiful music doesn't hold to human-contrived limitations of belief and structure. You are free to enjoy it without being tied to your old understandings of its source.
thais wrote:
Well said. I kind of hated Beck when Loser came out and gained a grudging respect for him during the Odelay period. Since then I've acknowledged his talent without really getting into the music but this album is a stunning, beautiful and honest thing and of course it's lead me back to Sea Change and, overall, a whole new appreciation for the guy and the range of what he's produced.
Nah - maybe it's just time to chill and listen. Put away your preconceived notions and prejudices and give it a chance with new ears and an open mind. Beautiful music doesn't hold to human-contrived limitations of belief and structure. You are free to enjoy it without being tied to your old understandings of its source.
thais wrote:
OMG, he´s Beck...
Time to PSD for sure.
Time to PSD for sure.
Well said. I kind of hated Beck when Loser came out and gained a grudging respect for him during the Odelay period. Since then I've acknowledged his talent without really getting into the music but this album is a stunning, beautiful and honest thing and of course it's lead me back to Sea Change and, overall, a whole new appreciation for the guy and the range of what he's produced.
Nah - maybe it's just time to chill and listen. Put away your preconceived notions and prejudices and give it a chance with new ears and an open mind. Beautiful music doesn't hold to human-contrived limitations of belief and structure. You are free to enjoy it without being tied to your old understandings of its source.
thais wrote:
OMG, he´s Beck...
Time to PSD for sure.
Time to PSD for sure.
OMG, he´s Beck...
Time to PSD for sure.
Time to PSD for sure.
A Moody Blues feelin....
This album is growing on me.
Goes well with a first spring beer on the deck.
Goes well with a first spring beer on the deck.
dragon1952 wrote:
Maybe a name change would help. Beyecké?? Now that's artistry!
Gave it an outstanding. The whole album is outstanding......BeYonce....(or however you spell it)...give me a fucking break :^ /
Maybe a name change would help. Beyecké?? Now that's artistry!
I vote a ban on mentioning any musician not named Beck in connection with this record.
It is a fine piece of music and well deserved of its award, but face it folks -it's not a sport and awards for best movie/music are usually a farce.
It is a fine piece of music and well deserved of its award, but face it folks -it's not a sport and awards for best movie/music are usually a farce.
Gave it an outstanding. The whole album is outstanding......BeYonce....(or however you spell it)...give me a fucking break :^ /
ShaunJ wrote:
Have another beer Dos Equis and enjoy the Beckster
Hey Tsawwassen !
Have another beer Dos Equis and enjoy the Beckster
Hey Tsawwassen !
linden wrote:
And Beyoncé has also won 20 Grammys. It's not like she's being neglected.
Sadly, it is in fact a numbers game. For movies, box office gross is the deciding factor. For music, Obviously pretty much the same.
Good ovies are good movies. Good music is good music. And Kanye is an idiot.
And Beyoncé has also won 20 Grammys. It's not like she's being neglected.
Sadly, it is in fact a numbers game. For movies, box office gross is the deciding factor. For music, Obviously pretty much the same.
Good ovies are good movies. Good music is good music. And Kanye is an idiot.
Jack_Jefferson wrote:
It's that simplistic "5 million Elvis fans can't be wrong" kind of thinking. The Oscars really are supposed to be about art and innovation. It's not a numbers game. I'm not taking anything away from Beyoncé (don't really know what she sings), but I'm sure her music has won awards from MTV, the E! channel, People Magazine, American Music Awards and other organizations that take popular opinion and sales numbers into account.
The same thing goes for the 'American Sniper' movie. Just because it had leading box office sales for the past month leading up to the Oscars doesn't, by itself, make it worthy of a best film or best director Oscar.
And Beyoncé has also won 20 Grammys. It's not like she's being neglected.
It's that simplistic "5 million Elvis fans can't be wrong" kind of thinking. The Oscars really are supposed to be about art and innovation. It's not a numbers game. I'm not taking anything away from Beyoncé (don't really know what she sings), but I'm sure her music has won awards from MTV, the E! channel, People Magazine, American Music Awards and other organizations that take popular opinion and sales numbers into account.
The same thing goes for the 'American Sniper' movie. Just because it had leading box office sales for the past month leading up to the Oscars doesn't, by itself, make it worthy of a best film or best director Oscar.
And Beyoncé has also won 20 Grammys. It's not like she's being neglected.
On_The_Beach wrote:
It's that simplistic "5 million Elvis fans can't be wrong" kind of thinking. The Oscars really are supposed to be about art and innovation. It's not a numbers game. I'm not taking anything away from Beyoncé (don't really know what she sings), but I'm sure her music has won awards from MTV, the E! channel, People Magazine, American Music Awards and other organizations that take popular opinion and sales numbers into account.
The same thing goes for the 'American Sniper' movie. Just because it had leading box office sales for the past month leading up to the Oscars doesn't, by itself, make it worthy of a best film or best director Oscar.
This won album of the year at the Grammys tonight.
Kanye West later went on a rant about how Beyonce should have won and Beck should give her his grammy.
The guy seriously needs to get a life.
Kanye West later went on a rant about how Beyonce should have won and Beck should give her his grammy.
The guy seriously needs to get a life.
It's that simplistic "5 million Elvis fans can't be wrong" kind of thinking. The Oscars really are supposed to be about art and innovation. It's not a numbers game. I'm not taking anything away from Beyoncé (don't really know what she sings), but I'm sure her music has won awards from MTV, the E! channel, People Magazine, American Music Awards and other organizations that take popular opinion and sales numbers into account.
The same thing goes for the 'American Sniper' movie. Just because it had leading box office sales for the past month leading up to the Oscars doesn't, by itself, make it worthy of a best film or best director Oscar.
On_The_Beach wrote:
Agreed. Kanye is taking the awards system WAY too seriously.
This won album of the year at the Grammys tonight.
Kanye West later went on a rant about how Beyonce should have won and Beck should give her his grammy.
The guy seriously needs to get a life.
Kanye West later went on a rant about how Beyonce should have won and Beck should give her his grammy.
The guy seriously needs to get a life.
Agreed. Kanye is taking the awards system WAY too seriously.
11+ months since my last post—one of his very finest.
Great Song! Great Album!
This won album of the year at the Grammys tonight.
Kanye West later went on a rant about how Beyonce should have won and Beck should give her his grammy.
The guy seriously needs to get a life.
Kanye West later went on a rant about how Beyonce should have won and Beck should give her his grammy.
The guy seriously needs to get a life.
Dosequis wrote:
I'm not hearing any Spectrasonics Atmosphere in here.
Methinks you guess....
Either way, there's not anything "overdone" here. This is superb production.
This guy is a master of taking other people's songs and making nothing out of them. Nothing original or interesting. Plus he overdoes the Spectasonics Atmosphere.
I'm not hearing any Spectrasonics Atmosphere in here.
Methinks you guess....
Either way, there's not anything "overdone" here. This is superb production.
I have a reflexion paradise & not for me it's a paradise song
Someday this will get bumped to TEN in my books.
This guy is the real deal ! It's only taken many how many years to get my head out of the sand ?
Way to got BillG !
Dosequis wrote:
You seem absolutely convinced that your perspective is TRUE. Despite the respectful observations of others that this may not, possibly, be completely accurate, you persist in your quest for rightness. Fine. But, not credible.
This guy is a master of taking other people's songs and making nothing out of them. Nothing original or interesting. Plus he overdoes the Spectasonics Atmosphere.
You seem absolutely convinced that your perspective is TRUE. Despite the respectful observations of others that this may not, possibly, be completely accurate, you persist in your quest for rightness. Fine. But, not credible.
Dosequis wrote:
Have another beer Dos Equis and enjoy the Beckster
Wow Bill.......are you on the take? You play this guy 10 times a day!! He sucks!!! But if yer doin' the $payola$ thing then I guess I can't blame you.
Have another beer Dos Equis and enjoy the Beckster
BillG wrote:
New album. I like it. Good overall response from RP listeners.
When something meets all 3 of those criteria, it'll get played relatively often — at least for a while. No payola required.
New album. I like it. Good overall response from RP listeners.
When something meets all 3 of those criteria, it'll get played relatively often — at least for a while. No payola required.
This is pretty different for Beck and most of us want to hear different music which is why we choose RP. And when we don't choose the music then we choose PSD. I think too many people are overly critical just because they can be. Keep up the good work, Bill!
Dosequis wrote:
New album. I like it. Good overall response from RP listeners.
When something meets all 3 of those criteria, it'll get played relatively often -- at least for a while. No payola required.
Wow Bill.......are you on the take? You play this guy 10 times a day!! He sucks!!! But if yer doin' the $payola$ thing then I guess I can't blame you.
New album. I like it. Good overall response from RP listeners.
When something meets all 3 of those criteria, it'll get played relatively often -- at least for a while. No payola required.
Wow Bill.......are you on the take? You play this guy 10 times a day!! He sucks!!! But if yer doin' the $payola$ thing then I guess I can't blame you.
toomanyollys wrote:
I think you're confusing lack of talent with something you personally don't like. I do not like many Beatles' songs, but I wouldn't say they lack talent.
Besides, artists without talent aren't played on RP, duh. (So yes, I'm implying Shatner has talent).
No I think you're confused.
I think you're confusing lack of talent with something you personally don't like. I do not like many Beatles' songs, but I wouldn't say they lack talent.
Besides, artists without talent aren't played on RP, duh. (So yes, I'm implying Shatner has talent).
No I think you're confused.
This guy is a master of taking other people's songs and making nothing out of them. Nothing original or interesting. Plus he overdoes the Spectasonics Atmosphere.
Every time I hear this...I enjoy the feeling