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haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 2:07pm

 islander wrote:

I loved the coffee from my Aeropress. But I also found the early morning complexity and the perilous balance of a top heavy open mix of grounds and water to not be a good fit with my morning grogginess and boat life. #needcoffeetomakecoffee



I was going to suggest an Aeropress since you are a landlubber now. But on the rare occasions I make hot coffee at home, I just use a manual Melitta pour-over and a kettle.

islander

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 9:18am

 dischuckin wrote:

first time having coffee made from a bialetti over the weekend at a friends house & it was delicious, best coffee i've had in a while. i might ask for one for xmas.

at home i mainly use the aeropress because i'm the only coffee drinker in the house. i also occasionally use the esspresso maker or french press, but using a paper filter removes some artery clogging oils


I loved the coffee from my Aeropress. But I also found the early morning complexity and the perilous balance of a top heavy open mix of grounds and water to not be a good fit with my morning grogginess and boat life. #needcoffeetomakecoffee

dischuckin

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 8:49am

first time having coffee made from a bialetti over the weekend at a friends house & it was delicious, best coffee i've had in a while. i might ask for one for xmas.
at home i mainly use the aeropress because i'm the only coffee drinker in the house. i also occasionally use the esspresso maker or french press, but using a paper filter removes some artery clogging oils

rgio

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 6:26am

 miamizsun wrote:

any suggestions would be helpful

We've had this one for a few years.  The OXO 9 cup maker (apparently 8 was just too small, and 10 too large?).   .
OXO Brew 9 Cup Coffee Maker. View a larger version of this product image.

I like a carafe, so I can drink it slowly over the course of the morning.  It was a gift when there was one coffee drinker in the house (me), and is now working OT with 3 at home.  We end up making 2 pots in the morning now.  After almost 3 years (~1,000 pots), it's showing signs that the end is coming.  There is a small drip coming from the section that holds the basket/grounds.  It's not a big deal, but I'm guessing one of the rubber pieces is beginning to fail.   All in all, it's been good.  Coffee starts and stays hot for a few hours.
oldviolin

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 5:14am

 miamizsun wrote:

had this rig for a quite some time
literally made thousands of cups of coffee
some noticeable wear and tear 
so what's next?
weird kitchen layout so i need something compact
any suggestions would be helpful
 
You had to be there. Oh wait! You were! {#Wink}

miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 17, 2021 - 3:57am




had this rig for a quite some time
literally made thousands of cups of coffee
some noticeable wear and tear 
so what's next?
weird kitchen layout so i need something compact
any suggestions would be helpful
haresfur

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Location: The Golden Triangle
Gender: Male


Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 7:19pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


What is going on with that bird in your av?


The closest he could do to a face-palm after reading the posts here
ScottFromWyoming

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Location: Powell
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Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 6:47pm

 haresfur wrote:

I thought you get extra points for hijacking a discussion



What is going on with that bird in your av?
haresfur

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Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 3:13pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Right. Our roaster said they figure 4 days minimum to get the best flavor, then another 10 to use them as "fresh" if opened, but in theory the roasted whole beans are shelf stable if they're in a sealed bag with a valve. There's only a tiny bit of oxygen in that bag to begin with (if your roaster is big enough to have a nitrogen-rich packaging line), and most of that is pushed out when the bag puffs up with coffee gases. 

But I've never done any A/B testing so who knows.
======

The discussion about Florida coffee was a nod to climate change... Brazil's failing crop, etc.


I thought you get extra points for hijacking a discussion

Proclivities

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Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 11:13am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Right. Our roaster said they figure 4 days minimum to get the best flavor, then another 10 to use them as "fresh" if opened, but in theory the roasted whole beans are shelf stable if they're in a sealed bag with a valve. ...

...The discussion about Florida coffee was a nod to climate change... Brazil's failing crop, etc.

Aye - missed the context farther down the thread...

westslope

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Location: BC sage brush steppe


Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 10:22am

 Steely_D wrote:
......
CNET argues that beans are stale when you buy them, anyway. Freeze if you don’t drink much. I see a lot of folks liking the vacuum mason jar approach. https://www.cnet.com/home/smar...


Thanks for the links Steely_D.

CNET appears to be down.  All I get are 404 errors.  I changed the VPN location, played with the tracker blocking options, etc.  As G0d has been punishing sinful British Columbians in the last couple of days, I wonder if BC got disconnected from the I-Net.  Probably not the case, but something that comes to mind when 'they' shower their wrath on us sinners.  

Back to the kitchen for ......  more coffee.  

westslope

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Location: BC sage brush steppe


Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 10:01am

 Steely_D wrote:


You want to vacuum seal those puppies. Roasted beans get nasty after a few weeks.
If you want beans to last, buy them green from a place like Sweet Maria's and roast them yourself. Green beans (really, seeds) last for a year or two.


We have a vacuum sealer that we often use for hot-smoked salmon and dried fruit.   Not sure if we are prepared to go the extra mile for coffee.....  

I suspect that much of our fascination with and attachment to coffee is psychological.   As long as the caffeine does not degrade, we are good.  Nasty?  Add more hot milk.  Really concerned about sleep and health?  Drink black tea or switch to water or diluted fruit juice.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 9:32am

 haresfur wrote:


And I heard that the beans improve over the first few days or a week after roasting because of off gassing the nasty stuff. Then they start to go stale.


Right. Our roaster said they figure 4 days minimum to get the best flavor, then another 10 to use them as "fresh" if opened, but in theory the roasted whole beans are shelf stable if they're in a sealed bag with a valve. There's only a tiny bit of oxygen in that bag to begin with (if your roaster is big enough to have a nitrogen-rich packaging line), and most of that is pushed out when the bag puffs up with coffee gases. 

But I've never done any A/B testing so who knows.
======

The discussion about Florida coffee was a nod to climate change... Brazil's failing crop, etc.
Proclivities

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Posted: Nov 16, 2021 - 3:37am

 miamizsun wrote:


i think that works for jamaica  


Yeah - they're in the tropics.  That's the "traditional" zone but I have read where some were people able to cultivate coffee outside the tropics.

oldviolin

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Posted: Nov 15, 2021 - 2:57pm

 haresfur wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I've thrown my coffee grounds out the front door for a couple of decades so ...could be worse!


Doesn't the porch get slippery?
 
They don't have porches in Wyoming, just characters...
haresfur

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Posted: Nov 15, 2021 - 2:54pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


I've thrown my coffee grounds out the front door for a couple of decades so ...could be worse!


Doesn't the porch get slippery?
haresfur

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Posted: Nov 15, 2021 - 2:53pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Not arguing, per se, because I haven't done the research and testing that you have, but I thought most commercial beans are still off-gassing non-oxygen compounds when they're bagged, and that's done in a nitrogen-rich chamber so there's little oxygen in the bag to begin with, then the beans produce more gases over the next several days, pushing the nitrogen/air mix out the one-way valve. The biggest problem with the whole scenario is SAID TO BE that those gases that come off the roasted beans should be going into your cup, so drinking fresh-roasted coffee gets you all of that. Vacuum sealing IS SAID TO just hasten the process of drawing flavor out of the beans. Or so they say.

If we're talking a year's supply, I'd leave them in the original packaging if it's sealed, with a one-way valve, and freeze them. Maybe push any air out of the bag thru the valve first. When they come out of the freezer, don't open the bag for at least a day, to avoid condensation on the beans. Not ideal but it seems like the way to keep them not-awful longer.


And I heard that the beans improve over the first few days or a week after roasting because of off gassing the nasty stuff. Then they start to go stale.
miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 15, 2021 - 2:23pm

 oldviolin wrote:

It occurs to me that we could be on the way to perking dirt and that is a brutal irony. Monday brews to thought on. 
{#Wink}


atomo coffee (it ain't nothin but molecules)


miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 15, 2021 - 2:14pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Florida is technically not in the traditional "coffee-bean zone" - between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, plus I believe coffee ideally needs to be grown at elevations at least half a mile or so above sea level (for Arabica at least).


i think that works for jamaica  
Proclivities

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Posted: Nov 15, 2021 - 10:16am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Hawaii's Kona isn't all that, either, but they do bill themselves as the only coffee grown in the USA. But anyway if it's crap coffee now, maybe you can buy in. Are there mountains in Florida?

edit: lol highest point is 345 feet. That's the real reason BDB won't come visit! Nosebleeds.

Florida is technically not in the traditional "coffee-bean zone" - between the Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, plus I believe coffee ideally needs to be grown at elevations at least half a mile or so above sea level (for Arabica at least).
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