Proclivities wrote: 
And, the single "guiding principle" that I have observed Trump both say and follow is "never apologize".

 steeler wrote:
...as scripted by Steve Bannon (with assistance from Alex Jones).

 kurtster wrote:

 
I have to respond to this.

This is the political/governmental version of a bogeyman, a specter that cannot be adequately disproven because it is akin to proving a negative.

So we have the specter of this covert group of professional government types who wield power from within the nooks and crannies of the federal government without accountability and disproportionate to their station in the government. 

This is the Trump schtick.  I am being opposed by sinister forces, largely unknown to the public, because I am seeking to disrupt their monopoly, to expose these proverbial cockroaches by bringing them into the light.  I am the people's champion and anyone opposed to me or my agenda most assuredly is part of this conspiracy.          

 

 miamizsun wrote: 
This leads back to the Deep State, of which I need no additional convincing that it exists and is a threat to all Americans.

But the DS is the friend and ally of those who wish to remove Trump from office and its sinister side is ignored in an end justifies the means approach.    

2¢ ...

 miamizsun wrote: 

 haresfur wrote: 
my big concern isn't whether trump is roped in on a technicality or nutty rule

it's the tools that are available to him or any other politician and how they'll be used

if he survives and i think that's likely and he gets "loyal" people in place, what happens?

ego, revenge, power and secrecy

what could wrong?

i just don't trust these folks to act responsibly

 miamizsun wrote: 
Comey wasn't being a very good cop IMO. He should have engaged Trump to remove the ambiguity. The response to, "Do you like your job?" should have been, "Yes, what do I need to do to keep it?" 

Surely he knows how to question people, gather evidence, and build a case. I can only think he didn't want to go there, even though he obviously didn't trust Trump.

 miamizsun wrote: 
I think most of what I've read says that the issue with obstruction is that you have to establish intent. Seems like the facts and circumstances that are slowly being revealed are making it easier to come to such a legal conclusion.

Do Comey's Revelations Show Obstruction of Justice? 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Cool. I don't own many rare things (other than my exquisite and rare sense of male fashion)


 

after some light reading i'm guessing and agreeing with a few who have parsed the comey statement that after the smoke clears the overall verdict here will be "stupid but not criminal"

we'll see

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
I'll treasure it always.

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Hey, not to change the subject, but your From Russia With Love shirt is a rarity: Only about 5 in the world. I took it down today because Amazon is getting out the banhammer for things that they think are copyright risks. That one is clearly a parody and would be legal, but Amazon doesn't like paying lawyers, and Trump does, and the movie industry does. So just to be safe, I pulled it down.

The $110 billion arms deal to Saudi Arabia is fake news

 black321 wrote: 


lol You alright with me.

 black321 wrote: 
True, true, I was in the wrong thread for that discussion.

 Proclivities wrote: 
Eh, we just borrowed our way out of it...national debt heading towards $20 trillion, $61,000 per citizen or over $165,000 per taxpayer.  Not including another $3.1 trillion in state and local debt (another $10k per citizen), plus personal debt...So Ron Paul's arguments are still valid.  But that's not a big deal, let's go back to arguing about Russian conspiracies and other headlines of the day. 

 cc_rider wrote: 
True, it certainly got worse for many people, but overall it improved and there was not the cataclysm that many predicted.  (What ever happened to Ron Paul anyhow?)

 Proclivities wrote: 
I think a lot of that depends which side of the wealth/income divide you're on. But in general you're right.

 cc_rider wrote: 
A lot of people here (and elsewhere) predicted that about the US economy around 2009; it looks like they were wrong.