Actually, I think she has hard core non-Republicans making sure that her independence and integrity arenât ignored. I certainly wouldnât vote her into office - but sheâs risking it all and if we ignore that, we canât expect others to be brave either. We want to be sure that she gets the applause for her bravery, just like so many others who speak truth to âpower.â
Completely agree.
Just because you don't agree with a politician's positions, doesn't me you shouldn't applaud their integrity.
Unless you're stuck being a "team" player.
Actually, I think she has hard core non-Republicans making sure that her independence and integrity arenât ignored. I certainly wouldnât vote her into office - but sheâs risking it all and if we ignore that, we canât expect others to be brave either. We want to be sure that she gets the applause for her bravery, just like so many others who speak truth to âpower.â
And the center has been moving further to right every election cycle since Ronnie, so when I hear "extremists on both sides" my head explodes. Centrists are now primarily what were once moderate right.
Liz, Barrasshole, etc. are all ultraliberals, working in tandem with AOC and Nancy.
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Jun 17, 2022 - 10:20am
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
In further proof that the world is upside down, Pence and Cheney are getting lots of love and respect from those of us they've abused their entire careers. He's running for president, she has hard. core. liberals. fawning over her. I keep telling people here that there's no way I can vote for Cheney because if she does win, that endorsement moves the "center" way to the right. Much better to let the GOP elect some bloviating turd than someone who will be much more effective at getting bad things done.
Pence doesn't fall into that category tho; he'd just let the church tell him what to do. Not sure he could lead anyone anywhere but he sure isn't going to take any more high roads. Once is enough.
And the center has been moving further to right every election cycle since Ronnie, so when I hear "extremists on both sides" my head explodes. Centrists are now primarily what were once moderate right.
In further proof that the world is upside down, Pence and Cheney are getting lots of love and respect from those of us they've abused their entire careers. He's running for president, she has hard. core. liberals. fawning over her. I keep telling people here that there's no way I can vote for Cheney because if she does win, that endorsement moves the "center" way to the right. Much better to let the GOP elect some bloviating turd than someone who will be much more effective at getting bad things done.
Pence doesn't fall into that category tho; he'd just let the church tell him what to do. Not sure he could lead anyone anywhere but he sure isn't going to take any more high roads. Once is enough.
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Jun 17, 2022 - 6:10am
rgio wrote:
Thank God he didn't read it... they'd still be there.
I thought at one point that he had fallen asleep.
The juxtaposition between his oral testimony and his written submission is stark. Donât be put off by the former.
Read J. Michael Luttigâs written opening statement before the January 6 committee. It is a scathing but insightful critique of where we now find ourselves and a challenge to each of us to preserve our democracy and sustain our republic. A brilliant analysis and urgent plea.
Thank God he didn't read it... they'd still be there.
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Jun 16, 2022 - 9:21pm
Read J. Michael Luttigâs written opening statement before the January 6 committee. It is a scathing but insightful critique of where we now find ourselves and a challenge to each of us to preserve our democracy and sustain our republic. A brilliant analysis and urgent plea.
As long as he's on tape first, and then in person during the hearing. Otherwise he'll rant lies like he did during the debate and go unchecked. Let him hang himself first - and then fact check him live using bona fide experts. Cut his mike when it's not his turn, etc.
Have they got to the part about replacing the (I think) Secretary of Defense a few days before leaving office where all the new guy had to do was supporting the coup?
The day before a mob of President Donald J. Trumpâs supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Penceâs chief of staff called Mr. Penceâs lead Secret Service agent to his West Wing office.
The chief of staff, Marc Short, had a message for the agent, Tim Giebels: The president was going to turn publicly against the vice president, and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.
