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Posted: Jun 18, 2024 - 7:46am

 Steely_D wrote:


 I agree that a Final Jeopardy fill-in-the-card-and-show-it format would be so flipping entertaining.

Let Ken Jennings host the debate. "Donald you have $600 what is your answer? This game is rigged, no I'm sorry that is incorrect, what did you wager? $1000 which you don't have, so that puts you down to zero" 

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Posted: Jun 17, 2024 - 8:38am

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American knowledge of all things political, both at home and abroad, is remedial compared to the rest of the world...especially Europe. Most Americans think they know what's going on because their news feed gives them the perspective they enjoy, but very few have a sense of things.   Euros, probably because of proximity, pay a lot closer attention.  I know one thing for sure, when I fly from Europe to the US, the average knowledge of politics increases in both places.

Arguing that because you're American, you know more about America, is one of our great problems.  We are growing myopically stupider by the day.

For the debates, I would love to see a few questions that are fact-based.  "Mr. Trump, who is the current leader of Germany, and what title do they go by?"  "Mr. Biden, who is the King of Saudi Arabia?"   I think Americans deserve to see how much each truly understands the players and the game.  

Give them buzzers... let's play political jeopardy.  We'll see how slow Joe is and how little Trump knows, all while learning a bit about the world around us.


That last bit about the debates has been on my mind for a while. Biden has an opportunity to show off his decades of experience with fact-based status quo information. Trump likes to fall back on “I can’t tell you because it’s a high level secret” which is horribly transparent - so a fact based debate, especially NOT based in asking about the future (TFG’s speciality: promise and never deliver. See also big beautiful wall that Mexico pays for, repeal and replace the ACA, etc), but asking about what is factual and straightforward and something that they should both know. I agree that a Final Jeopardy fill-in-the-card-and-show-it format would be so flipping entertaining.
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Posted: Jun 17, 2024 - 5:13am

 kcar wrote:
I'm far more informed than the average bear. 

American knowledge of all things political, both at home and abroad, is remedial compared to the rest of the world...especially Europe. Most Americans think they know what's going on because their news feed gives them the perspective they enjoy, but very few have a sense of things.   Euros, probably because of proximity, pay a lot closer attention.  I know one thing for sure, when I fly from Europe to the US, the average knowledge of politics increases in both places.

Arguing that because you're American, you know more about America, is one of our great problems.  We are growing myopically stupider by the day.

For the debates, I would love to see a few questions that are fact-based.  "Mr. Trump, who is the current leader of Germany, and what title do they go by?"  "Mr. Biden, who is the King of Saudi Arabia?"   I think Americans deserve to see how much each truly understands the players and the game.  

Give them buzzers... let's play political jeopardy.  We'll see how slow Joe is and how little Trump knows, all while learning a bit about the world around us.
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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 10:29pm

 kurtster wrote:

Are not you an American voter ?


I'm far more informed than the average bear. 
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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 7:35pm

 kcar wrote:
 kurtster wrote: American voters are remarkably ignorant when it comes to foreign policy. 
 
Are not you an American voter ?
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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 3:07pm

 kurtster wrote:
Logic and Socrates were BFFs. Senator Logic from Abalama is an election denier.


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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 1:41pm

 kurtster wrote:

American voters are remarkably ignorant when it comes to foreign policy. They've also forgotten Trump's pattern of deferential behavior towards Putin as well as his irrational hatred of Ukraine. He was (is?) convinced that Ukraine hid Hilary Clinton's servers and contributed to intelligence concerns that his campaign was cooperating with Russians. Trump repeatedly stated he thought NATO was pointless, deliberately held up military aid to Ukraine and indicated that he would not necessarily commit to honoring the U.S.'s commitments to providing assistance to its allies—esp. Ukraine—in the event of an attack. 

There is next to nothing to support the notion that Putin was deterred from invading Ukraine because of Trump's presidency., 

Furthermore, there isn't a great deal of logic at work in Putin's invasion of Ukraine. His plan was based on the wildly unrealistic notion that the West would simply allow Russia to swallow Ukraine and that the Ukrainians would simply roll over. Putin assumed there'd be no long-term consequences. As things stand now, Russia has become a near vassal state of  China. 

The op-ed you referenced is also shockingly uniformed about Trump's responsibility for the collapse of Afghanistan. 


U.S. review of chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal blames Trump

Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan

May 19, 2020 — In releasing its quarterly report on Afghanistan, the DOD inspector general’s office says the U.S. cut troop levels in Afghanistan by more than 4,000, even though “the Taliban escalated violence further after signing the agreement.”

“U.S. officials stated the Taliban must reduce violence as a necessary condition for continued U.S. reduction in forces and that remaining high levels of violence could jeopardize the U.S.-Taliban agreement,” according to the report, which covered activity from Jan. 1, 2020, to March 31, 2020. “Even still, the United States began to reduce its forces in Afghanistan from roughly 13,000 to 8,600.”

Aug. 18, 2020 — In releasing a report that covered activity in Afghanistan from April 1, 2020, to June 30, 2020, the Defense Department inspector general’s office says, “The Taliban did not appear to uphold its commitment to distance itself from terrorist organizations in Afghanistan. UN and U.S. officials reported that the Taliban continued to support al-Qaeda, and conducted joint attacks with al-Qaeda members against Afghan National Defense and Security Forces.”


Sept. 18, 2020 — At a press conference, Trump says, “We’re dealing very well with the Taliban. They’re very tough, they’re very smart, they’re very sharp. But, you know, it’s been 19 years, and even they are tired of fighting, in all fairness.”

Nov. 16, 2020 — Congressional Republicans, responding to news reports that the Trump administration will rapidly reduce forces in Afghanistan, warn of what Sen. Marco Rubio calls “a Saigon-type of situation” in Afghanistan. “A rapid withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan now would hurt our allies and delight the people who wish us harm,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says.

Nov. 17, 2020 — Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller formally announces that the U.S. will reduce U.S. forces in Afghanistan to 2,500 by Jan. 15, 2021.

On the same day, the Defense Department IG’s office released a report for the quarter ending Sept. 30, 2020, that said the peace negotiations between the Afghan government and Taliban representatives had stalled and violence increased. “At the same time, the Taliban increased its attacks against Afghan forces, leading to ‘distressingly high’ levels of violence that could threaten the peace agreement,” the report said.

The IG report also continued to warn that the Taliban was apparently violating the withdrawal agreement. “This withdrawal is contingent on the Taliban abiding by its commitments under the agreement, which include not allowing terrorists to use Afghan soil to threaten the United States and its allies,” the report said. “However, it was unclear whether the Taliban was in compliance with the agreement, as members of al-Qaeda were integrated into the Taliban’s leadership and command structure.”

Jan. 15 — “Today, U.S. force levels in Afghanistan have reached 2,500,” Miller, the acting defense secretary, says in a statement. “his drawdown brings U.S. forces in the country to their lowest levels since 2001.”

Afghanistan’s First Vice President Amrullah Saleh tells the BBC that the Trump administration made too many concessions to the Taliban. “I am telling as a friend and as an ally that trusting the Taliban without putting in a verification mechanism is going to be a fatal mistake,” Saleh says, adding that Afghanistan leaders warned the U.S. that “violence will spike” as the 5,000 Taliban prisoners were released. “Violence has spiked,” he added.



Watchdog: US troop pullout was key factor in Afghan collapse
https://apnews.com/article/afg...

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In February 2020, the Trump administration signed an agreement with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, in which the U.S. promised to fully withdraw its troops by May 2021. The Taliban committed to several conditions, including stopping attacks on American and coalition forces. The stated objective was to promote a peace negotiation between the Taliban and the Afghan government, but that diplomatic effort never gained traction before Biden took office in January 2022.

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Indeed, in the end, the new report said that the Afghans were still heavily dependent on U.S. air support for strikes and emergency evacuations, and also on U.S. contractors to maintain and repair aircraft and other systems.

But all agree that the Doha agreement was a lynchpin in the collapse.

“The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military — psychological more than anything else, but we set a date-certain for when we were going to leave and when they could expect all assistance to end,” Gen. Frank McKenzie told Congress last year.

McKenzie, who was then the top U.S. general in the Middle East and has since retired, argued to keep 2,500 U.S. troops there, as did Milley.

The Doha agreement, said the SIGAR report, led the Afghan population and its military to feel abandoned. And the Trump administration’s decision to limit U.S. airstrikes against the Taliban stopped any progress the Afghans were making, and left them unable and eventually unwilling to hold territory, it said.


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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 7:14am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
moot point. I'm more worried about what he is signalling now.

Ahem.

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Posted: Jun 16, 2024 - 4:07am

 kurtster wrote:
moot point. I'm more worried about what he is signalling now.
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Posted: Jun 15, 2024 - 10:57pm

 kcar wrote:
Maybe Trump was right when he said he'd never let the war between Russia and Ukraine happen: he would have given Ukraine to the Russians. 
 
Voters believe Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine under Trump. Logic agrees
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Posted: Jun 15, 2024 - 9:09pm

Maybe Trump was right when he said he'd never let the war between Russia and Ukraine happen: he would have given Ukraine to the Russians. 


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Posted: Jun 15, 2024 - 5:13pm

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Posted: Jun 14, 2024 - 10:34am

 rgio wrote:

Sorry.  Since sarcasm is veiled hostility, and you seem so laid back...



I prefer the term 'appropriately channeled hostility' thankyouverymuch.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2024 - 9:27am

 miamizsun wrote:
i get it
i was attempting some sarcasm
;-)

Sorry.  Since sarcasm is veiled hostility, and you seem so laid back...
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Posted: Jun 14, 2024 - 9:09am

Kurt's pretzel logic revealed:


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Posted: Jun 14, 2024 - 7:04am

 miamizsun wrote:


i get it
i was attempting some sarcasm
;-)


As was I.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2024 - 7:03am

 rgio wrote:

Beyond his name being painted on the side... it shows up at his rallies at the same time as Trump, has a tail number, files flight plans with the FAA, and is generally trackable every time it moves?

https://www.flightaware.com/re... 



i get it
i was attempting some sarcasm
;-)
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Posted: Jun 14, 2024 - 6:47am

The Chilling Reason You May Never See the New Trump Movie

It’s common to read about movies that are shown in most of the world but not released in, say, Russia or, more often, China. Should “The Apprentice” end up widely available globally but not, for political reasons, in the United States, it will be a sign of democratic decay, as well as an augur of greater self-censorship to come. After all, if anxiety about enraging Trump is already shaping what you can and cannot watch, it’s probably bound to get even worse if he actually returns to power.

In 2017, when he was frustrated that his attorney general, Jeff Sessions, wasn’t protecting him from the investigation into his Russia ties, Trump exclaimed, “Where’s my Roy Cohn?” The uncertain fate of “The Apprentice” demonstrates that he no longer needs to replace the man, because he’s got a whole movement instead.

Would networks fear a Biden movie?  Do major brands (Netflix, Comcast, etc.) fear everything that could upset the radical left or right? 



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Posted: Jun 13, 2024 - 9:01pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
His plane isn't trackable because he's had it removed from that service. Just like a whiny crybaby would.

There's more than one flight tracking service - and at least one that doesn't honour block requests.  Elon, and others, are familiar with this reality.
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Posted: Jun 13, 2024 - 7:21pm

 rgio wrote:

Beyond his name being painted on the side... it shows up at his rallies at the same time as Trump, has a tail number, files flight plans with the FAA, and is generally trackable every time it moves?

https://www.flightaware.com/re... 



His plane isn't trackable because he's had it removed from that service. Just like a whiny crybaby would.
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