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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 - 1:56pm

 rgio wrote:

She's saving America...like God told her to.

The drafter's profile:  Rachel Jones

Sexual orientation and gender identity should NOT be included as protected classes because they are choices.
You mean, like religion?
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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 - 1:47pm

 steeler wrote:

RESOLVED, all presidential ballots in 2024, and perhaps thereafter, shall list only Donald J. Trump as a candidate, and all votes cast for other purported candidates shall be deemed the illegal product of massive fraud and discarded.


She's saving America...like God told her to.

The drafter's profile:  Rachel Jones
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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 - 12:02pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Arizona: "Let's mess with the election system, OK?"

  • 25 Whereas, the last two elections have been riddled with controversy
  • 26 and lawsuits with rules, forms and procedures of the election broken that
  • 27 has led to low public confidence in how elections are run; and public
  • 28 distrust in our elections has been steadily declining and no significant
  • 29 change in election security has been implemented since 2020 to protect the
  • <b>House Amendments to H.C.R. 2055 </b>
  • 1 people's presidential vote in 2024; and the only way to protect the
  • 2 people's presidential vote in 2024 is to control the manner of its
  • 3 election


RESOLVED, all presidential ballots in 2024, and perhaps thereafter, shall list only Donald J. Trump as a candidate, and all votes cast for other purported candidates shall be deemed the illegal product of massive fraud and discarded.

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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 - 10:09am

Arizona: "Let's mess with the election system, OK?"
  • 25 Whereas, the last two elections have been riddled with controversy
  • 26 and lawsuits with rules, forms and procedures of the election broken that
  • 27 has led to low public confidence in how elections are run; and public
  • 28 distrust in our elections has been steadily declining and no significant
  • 29 change in election security has been implemented since 2020 to protect the
  • <b>House Amendments to H.C.R. 2055 </b>
  • 1 people's presidential vote in 2024; and the only way to protect the
  • 2 people's presidential vote in 2024 is to control the manner of its
  • 3 election

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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 - 9:27am

 steeler wrote:

House Republicans vote to impeach Mayorkas.

I think that surely lessens the crisis at the border. I know I feel much safer. 



NOW something will get done. Right, Congress? 
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Posted: Feb 13, 2024 - 5:08pm

 steeler wrote:

House Republicans vote to impeach Mayorkas.

I think that surely lessens the crisis at the border. I know I feel much safer. 



Right?
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Posted: Feb 13, 2024 - 5:06pm

House Republicans vote to impeach Mayorkas.

I think that surely lessens the crisis at the border. I know I feel much safer. 
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Posted: Feb 9, 2024 - 8:32am

 ColdMiser wrote:

I'm left wondering where are the ads? Are the Dems going to just let this issue die with the next news cycle? They should be running ads NATIONWIDE, day and night, putting Immigration on Trump and the Repubs. Now we have this Hur report and you can be sure you will be hearing about it day and night from the Repubs. Will this be a snatching defeat from the jaws of victory moment? 


I'm wondering if the Dems are waiting until Haley is officially out.  The last thing they want is to have to run against her.

The left complains, while the right exploits.   They threw Al Franken out for pictures that were foolish yet harmless, while the Republicans rally behind Matt Gaetz. 

If it weren't for Trump, the left would be losing every cycle.
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Posted: Feb 9, 2024 - 7:39am

 rgio wrote:

And now the Republicans are cornered by "slow Joe" on immigration.  The Senate Republicans asked for concessions...got them...and then said they wouldn't back what they demanded.  It is inconceivable that the Right has lost the moral high ground on immigration...but they've surrendered it to the Dems.  Biden is an executive order away from being the guy who overcame Republican pushback and reduced border crossings.

It's an amazing coincidence that 4 years after DJT flushed his reelection by dropping the COVID ball....he's stabbed himself in the heart with immigration.

They couldn't run a bake sale.  You've got to believe that a majority of voters will again punish them in November for their stupidity.


I'm left wondering where are the ads? Are the Dems going to just let this issue die with the next news cycle? They should be running ads NATIONWIDE, day and night, putting Immigration on Trump and the Repubs. Now we have this Hur report and you can be sure you will be hearing about it day and night from the Repubs. Will this be a snatching defeat from the jaws of victory moment? 

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Posted: Feb 6, 2024 - 11:08pm

 haresfur wrote:

Missed the perjury one. Do tell 


Judge Engoron, presiding over Trump's fraud trial, found out about the negotiations by reading a New York Times pieee on it. He wants Trump's lawyers to provide details of the matter since Weisselberg may have lied in Engoron's court. Engoron is considering declaring all of Weisselberg's testimony false, using the falsus in uno doctrine ==essentially if a witness provided false testimony in part of his/her appearance in court, the court can regard ALL statements as false. 

Ex-Trump finance chief reportedly in talks over guilty perjury plea



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Posted: Feb 6, 2024 - 9:25pm

 rgio wrote:

It would be hard to imagine more dysfunction than the Republicans displayed today.  Impeachment failure, border policy stupidity, firing the head of the party, another Trump court loss with another slapdown of his incredibly bad legal team while being referred to as "citizen Trump",  his CFO being caught perjuring himself in the case that is going to cost him his NY business license and $370M+ ,  all while the idiot faction of the Right signing a document that "DJT wasn't involved in an insurrection"...


Missed the perjury one. Do tell 

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Posted: Feb 6, 2024 - 7:42pm

 rgio wrote:

It would be hard to imagine more dysfunction than the Republicans displayed today. .. 


You know...you're absolutely right! And here's Dookie, acclaimed mascot of Trumpworld, to make the official proclamation: 

(Can we ger Dookie some bronzer so he's as brown as Donald?)
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Posted: Feb 6, 2024 - 7:05pm

It would be hard to imagine more dysfunction than the Republicans displayed today.  Impeachment failure, border policy stupidity, firing the head of the party, another Trump court loss with another slapdown of his incredibly bad legal team while being referred to as "citizen Trump",  his CFO being caught perjuring himself in the case that is going to cost him his NY business license and $370M+ ,  all while the idiot faction of the Right signing a document that "DJT wasn't involved in an insurrection"...

And if that isn't bad enough...

And now the Republicans are cornered by "slow Joe" on immigration.  The Senate Republicans asked for concessions...got them...and then said they wouldn't back what they demanded.  It is inconceivable that the Right has lost the moral high ground on immigration...but they've surrendered it to the Dems.  Biden is an executive order away from being the guy who overcame Republican pushback and reduced border crossings.

It's an amazing coincidence that 4 years after DJT flushed his reelection by dropping the COVID ball....he's stabbed himself in the heart with immigration.

They couldn't run a bake sale.  You've got to believe that a majority of voters will again punish them in November for their stupidity.

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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 8:01pm

As for your repeated whining that no one found any interaction between Russia and Trump's 2016 campaign: quite a few people here at RP have provided evidence and links proving you wrong. But you persist. Maybe you thought Bill Barr's whitewashing of the Mueller report was the final word and you stopped thinking. Here, do some reading and stop embarrassing yourself. 

A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?

Our summary of the Senate Intelligence Committee’s final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election


Five takeaways from final Senate Intel Russia report


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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 7:39pm

 kurtster wrote:

I'm always impressed with your ability to fabricate stories that have no grounding in supporting evidence. I'm guessing you're mostly repeating stories that you've seen or heard on right-wing media. If I'm correct, that's pretty distressing because Fox and others openly and repeatedly lied to you about the 2020 election results, all for the sake of ratings and remaining in Trump's good graces. And many of them are still at it, trying to paint January 6 as a peaceful protest. 

But I digress. Kurt, you wrote

"Here Trump is, his very first encounter as POTUS with the major leader of our opposition. In fact it was pretty much his first major anything as POTUS with the whole world watching."

Wrong. Trump's meeting with Putin in Helsinki took place in july 2018. He met with many world leaders before Helsinki, including Putin. See below. You should also be able to figure out from the text I quoted below that Trump should have been aware in 2018 that Russian aggression againt Ukraine could escalate.


"So he publicly behaved warm and welcoming extolling optimism and a good sense of diplomacy for better relations with Russia going forward. Hard ball things were kept private as they should until when and if things go sideways."

Gosh Kurt, you must be a wizard! Or maybe you just a dupe stuck on Bamboozled cycle. We don't know what went on between Putin and Trump and Helsinki because Trump kicked everyone out of the room but the interpreters. 

Trump and Putin Have Met Five Times. What Was Said Is a Mystery
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0....

WASHINGTON — The first time they met was in Germany. President Trump took his interpreter’s notes afterward and ordered him not to disclose what he heard to anyone. Later that night, at a dinner, Mr. Trump pulled up a seat next to President Vladimir V. Putin to talk without any American witnesses at all.

Their third encounter was in Vietnam when Mr. Trump seemed to take Mr. Putin’s word that he had not interfered in American elections. A formal summit meeting followed in Helsinki, Finland, where the two leaders kicked out everyone but the interpreters. Most recently, they chatted in Buenos Aires after Mr. Trump said they would not meet because of Russian aggression.

Mr. Trump has adamantly insisted there was “no collusion” with Russia during his 2016 presidential campaign. But each of the five times he has met with Mr. Putin since taking office, he has fueled suspicions about their relationship. The unusually secretive way he has handled these meetings has left many in his own administration guessing what happened and piqued the interest of investigators.

“What’s disconcerting is the desire to hide information from your own team,” said Andrew S. Weiss, who was a Russia adviser to President Bill Clinton. “The fact that Trump didn’t want the State Department or members of the White House team to know what he was talking with Putin about suggests it was not about advancing our country’s national interest but something more problematic.”

,,,

Veterans of past administrations could not recall a precedent for a president meeting alone with an adversary and keeping so many of his own advisers from being briefed on what was said. When they meet with foreign leaders, presidents typically want at least one aide in the room — not just an interpreter — to avoid misunderstandings later. Memorandums of conversation, called Memcons, are drafted and details are shared with officials who have reasons to know what was said.

“All five of the presidents whom I worked for, Republicans and Democrats, wanted a word-for-word set of notes, if only to protect the integrity of the American side of the conversation against later manipulation by the Soviets or the Russians,” said Victoria J. Nuland, a career diplomat who worked for Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton, among others.

That would seem an even greater imperative for Mr. Trump, who knew there were questions about his relationship with Mr. Putin given that American intelligence agencies concluded that Moscow tried to help elect him.

...

The question of Mr. Trump’s meetings with Mr. Putin was revived by a pair of news stories last weekend. The New York Times reported that after Mr. Trump fired the F.B.I. director James B. Comey in 2017, the bureau opened a counterintelligence investigation to explore whether the president was acting on Russia’s behalf. The Post reported that Mr. Trump had gone to unusual lengths to conceal details of his talks with Mr. Putin, including taking his interpreter’s notes.

...

They spoke a few more times before meeting in person for the first time as presidents on July 7, 2017, in Hamburg, Germany, during a Group of 20, or G-20, economic summit meeting. Aside from interpreters, the only others in the room were Rex W. Tillerson, then the secretary of state, and Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister.

The inaugural meeting came at a sensitive time. Mr. Trump’s team learned that day that one of the biggest secrets of his presidential bid was about to become public: At the height of the campaign, his son, son-in-law and campaign chairman had met at Trump Tower with Russians on the promise of obtaining dirt on Mrs. Clinton from the Russian government. Mr. Trump’s team was scrambling to respond to a request for comment by The Times.

Mr. Trump’s meeting with Mr. Putin that day lasted more than two hours. Afterward, Mr. Trump took his interpreter’s notes and instructed the interpreter not to brief anyone. Mr. Tillerson told reporters that the leaders discussed everything from Syria to Ukraine, but he also described “a very robust and lengthy exchange” on the election hacking.

...

Their most famous meeting came on July 16, 2018, in Helsinki, where they talked for more than two hours accompanied only by interpreters. At a subsequent news conference, Mr. Trump seemed to again accept Mr. Putin’s denial of election interference over the conclusions of American intelligence agencies.

But what happened behind closed doors remained shrouded. The Kremlin later reported that the leaders reached important agreements, but American government officials were left in the dark. American intelligence agencies were left to glean details about the meeting from surveillance of Russians who talked about it afterward.

Within months, Mr. Trump was angling for another meeting, perhaps at the White House or in Paris. Finally, they scheduled a get-together in Buenos Aires in December on the sidelines of another G-20 meeting.

Days before, Russian forces seized three Ukrainian naval vessels, but Mr. Trump seemed intent on sitting down with Mr. Putin, telling reporters as he left the White House for Buenos Aires that the meeting was still on. Just an hour later, after aides briefed him again on Ukraine standoff, he canceled the meeting on Twitter, catching the Russians off guard.

But when he arrived in Buenos Aires, Mr. Trump ended up having another informal conversation with Mr. Putin at the leaders’ dinner. Once again, little information emerged about what they discussed, even to many other American government officials.


KURT— more for you to check out: 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...

President Trump went to 'extraordinary lengths' to hide details of Putin meetings, report says

https://www.usatoday.com/story...


Here's a list of world leaders Drumpf had met with as of August 2017:

https://www.businessinsider.co...




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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 6:59pm

 kurtster wrote:

No he is not.  Not at all. 

You have drunk the Kool-Aid that has been served you by those you serve.


Care to address my second point?
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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 6:48pm

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Sure looked like it when he met with Putin in Helsinki and said he believed Vladmir over his own intelligence community. 
 
Yeah, the meeting in Helsinki.  The one where Trump gave Putin the beach ball, right ?

You think because he was so gracious then that he had kowtowed completely to Putin.

I looked at it a completely different way.

Here Trump is, his very first encounter as POTUS with the major leader of our opposition.  In fact it was pretty much his first major anything as POTUS with the whole world watching.

So he publicly behaved warm and welcoming extolling optimism and a good sense of diplomacy for better relations with Russia going forward.  Hard ball things were kept private as they should until when and if things go sideways.  Judging by the outrage for Trump being nice to Putin, it seems that everyone wanted him to go Perkins Psycho and brutally stab him to death instead to prove his bona fides in regards to the Russia, Russia, Russia crap.

But had he done that, everyone would have jumped on him for being undiplomatic and a reckless war monger or something similar.  Either way, he was damned if he did and damned by y'all if he didn't.  And it downhill from there.

To this day as evidenced by you, Helsinki is still proof that Trump is Putin's bitch. Helsinki is the misdirection and the foundation for the narrative that still lives today.

You cannot see it any other way, such as I put forth above.  That is another reason that you cannot understand Trump's unwavering support.

I've been wanting to bring up this very point about Helsinki for a very long time but waited for a time when it would have some meaning.

No one here has yet to say that Russia, Russia, Russia has been debunked.  The last reaction I got to that was from rgio simply stating that no one cites R, R, R anymore except the MAGA.  Well you just did by bringing up Helsinki.

And as things have been proven over time, our own intelligence agencies have not been on Trump's side either.
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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 5:36pm

 kurtster wrote:

No he is not.  Not at all. 

You have drunk the Kool-Aid that has been served you by those you serve.

Right, he's such an honorable man. Total integrity. 

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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 5:26pm

 kurtster wrote:

No he is not.  Not at all. 

You have drunk the Kool-Aid that has been served you by those you serve.

Sure looked like it when he met with Putin in Helsinki and said he believed Vladmir over his own intelligence community. 

Wouldn't you like to know what happened to the Crossfire Hurricane material now missing? You know, the stuff that has classified information about our sources of info on Russia? Trump claims Mark Meadows has a copy. Trump probably gave one to Putin as well. 

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Posted: Jan 28, 2024 - 4:43pm

 haresfur wrote:
trump is on Russia's side. 
 
No he is not.  Not at all. 

You have drunk the Kool-Aid that has been served you by those you serve.
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