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Lazy8

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Posted: Mar 20, 2022 - 10:21am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
This sounds a wee bit optimistic to me.

One, that Russia faces outright defeat in Ukraine. Incompetent or not, Russia still has vast military resources and can hang on a good long while in a war of attrition. It took them 10 years and the collapse of the Soviet Union to admit defeat in Afghanistan. Putin is also probably calling in favors from allies. Nobody makes a barrel bomb like the Syrian air force, and Iran can cover their backs if the Syrian military is called in to shore up Russian troops.

Second, that Putin wouldn't settle for seizing parts of Ukraine and declaring victory. If he can reduce enough of Ukraine to rubble and force them to cede territory (as Stalin did with Finland at the end of the Continuation War) then he can say he meant to do that all along. Even if such an arrangement isn't formalized the reality on the ground eventually becomes the accepted reality, regardless of how many other countries recognize the shift in borders in the short term. Russia has oil and gas. Putin can afford to be patient. His grip on power and the Russian media is firm.

But he's not a young man. He's almost 70. It's not clear who with succeed hm, as he has been pretty ruthless at eliminating rivals to power. Because of that if he were to be ousted in a coup or something it's not at all clear that the Russian Federation survives. It could fracture along any number of ethnic and cultural fault lines. Ukraine isn't the only part of the former soviet empire kept in the Russian orbit solely by fear.

We're in for a turbulent decade or so.
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Posted: Mar 20, 2022 - 7:35am

Preparing for Defeat
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Posted: Mar 19, 2022 - 5:25pm

 R_P wrote:

Yes.





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Posted: Mar 19, 2022 - 5:07pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Yes.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 19, 2022 - 4:44pm

Russia fired 500 missiles, Ukraine still has 'majority of aircraft'
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Posted: Mar 19, 2022 - 1:56pm


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Posted: Mar 19, 2022 - 6:38am

 deltaindia wrote:
Hi. I am ok. Tomorrow maybe I can describe the situation.  All is very hard(( Thank you for your support.

 
does anyone have any idea?
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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 9:02pm

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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 8:53pm

 oldviolin wrote:

I don't believe in angles. Being understood is overrated apparently..  I do believe in you, however. 


Okay, I don't understand what you're saying here.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 5:17pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 oldviolin wrote:

Sure. To hell with pretense. Let's make this thing happen...

As usual, your angle escapes me.
 
I don't believe in angles. Being understood is overrated apparently..  I do believe in you, however. 
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 4:33pm

Looks as if the Russians are digging in. Could very well be a prelude to the use of biological and/or chemical weapons.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 4:16pm

 oldviolin wrote:

Sure. To hell with pretense. Let's make this thing happen...



As usual, your angle escapes me.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 3:43pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep, he makes sense. I'm waiting for Putin's house of cards to suddenly implode. You can feel it coming. Just a question of time.
Yeah, how long before a disgruntled Russian pilot turns around unloads his payload on The Kremlin.
 Sure. To hell with pretense. Let's make this thing happen...

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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 3:16pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep, he makes sense. I'm waiting for Putin's house of cards to suddenly implode. You can feel it coming. Just a question of time.


Yeah, how long before a disgruntled Russian pilot turns around unloads his payload on The Kremlin.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 1:04pm

 miamizsun wrote:
this is interesting stuff from a prolific contributor
he's got a take and seems to know what is up
Kamil Galeev
 
yep, he makes sense. I'm waiting for Putin's house of cards to suddenly implode. You can feel it coming. Just a question of time.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 12:30pm

this is interesting stuff from a prolific contributor
he's got a take and seems to know what is up


Kamil Galeev

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Posted: Mar 18, 2022 - 5:15am

gleaned this early in the a.m....worthwhile




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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:55pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
I wonder how long it is going to take for the Russian military to finally get tired of this incompetent political leadership and finally turn on their master(s).
 
I would bet you see more of a passive-aggressive approach, so as to not draw the attention/ire/weaponry of their superiors.
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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:47pm

I wonder how long it is going to take for the Russian military to finally get tired of this incompetent political leadership and finally turn on their master(s).
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