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islander

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Location: West coast somewhere
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Posted: Apr 25, 2024 - 6:49pm

rgio wrote:

I've been one who didn't think we should change the court size, or lifetime appointment rules, just because...

I'm coming around to term limits and rotation.

The arguments made by the conservative side of the bench on the Presidential immunity discussion border on fantasy, all to ensure that Trump isn't tried before the election. There is no chance that eventually, they grant any sort of immunity for acts of insurrection, but their willingness to engage in far-fetched theory was embarrassing.

Of course, Justice Thomas, best friend and spouse of an insurrectionist was there (ethics... recusal...that's for the other guys) to ask insightful questions like why wasn't JFK charged after "Project Mongoose" (to remove Castro from Cuba). One reason... he was dead the moment he left office asshole.

Trump wants to claim these trials are election interference... while he has the highest court in the land running delay tactics to ensure we won't get answers before November. Trump's deep state is in place to ensure the next time, his coup will succeed.

Robert's will have his legacy.

rgio

Location: West Jersey
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Posted: Apr 25, 2024 - 3:20pm

rgio

Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male

Posted: Feb 8, 2024 - 10:38am

steeler wrote:

Based on those just concluded oral arguments, my opinion is Court is going to reverse. The arguments did not go well for Colorado. Again, my opinion.

I only heard the first Colorado lawyer...and wasn't impressed. All of the perspectives seem pretty weak...which is (I guess) how you get here...

The argument about "let's have an election, and if Trump wins... Congress can decide if he's allowed to take office..." feels pointless too.

This whole conversation is novel because no reasonable politician before this century would believe that someone who did what Trump did would have any chance of being elected again by the nation.

Suggesting that the "Commander in Chief" isn't an officer of the government? That if Trump had ever held a job anywhere else in the government he would be covered, but because he was only ever the POTUS... he's somehow above the oath?

We have entered an alternative universe.

steeler

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Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth

Posted: Feb 8, 2024 - 9:24am
rgio wrote: For anyone interested....the Colorado ballot issue is going to be broadcast at 10am. Should be interesting to hear. It really is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the court. https://www.supremecourt.gov/o... Based on those just concluded oral arguments, my opinion is Court is going to reverse. The arguments did not go well for Colorado. Again, my opinion.

rgio

Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male

Posted: Feb 8, 2024 - 6:54am
For anyone interested....the Colorado ballot issue is going to be broadcast at 10am. Should be interesting to hear. It really is a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario for the court. https://www.supremecourt.gov/o...

rgio

Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male

Posted: Oct 26, 2023 - 5:28am

Yesterday was a particularly bad day for Judge Thomas...

Justice Thomas Did Not Repay Substantial Portion of $267,230 Loan, Finance Committee Investigation Reveals; Failed to Report Forgiven Debt on Ethics Filings, Raising Questions About Tax Compliance

followed by...

Trumpâs Ex-Chief of Staff Takes Immunity in a Plea Agreement With Georgia

Ginni's text messages and conversations are sure to be part of any conversation with Mr Meadows.

rgio

Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male

Posted: Jul 14, 2023 - 7:58am

Red_Dragon wrote:

Thomas and Alito should have been fired already. If and when Trump is convicted his appointees should be fired and every decision they contributed to reversed.

No...you revise and move forward. I think term limits make sense...lifetime appointments favor inferior, partisan, younger appointments. These should be the great legal minds available, not a consideration of younger people because they last longer.

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Location: Gilead

Posted: Jul 14, 2023 - 7:54am

rgio wrote:

Yup...it's really not so complicated.

A Federal Judge Asks: Does the Supreme Court Realize How Bad It Smells?

... The recent descriptions of the behavior of some of our justices and particularly their attempts to defend their conduct have not just raised my eyebrows; theyâve raised the whole top of my head. Lavish, no-cost vacations? Hypertechnical arguments about how a free private airplane flight is a kind of facility? A justiceâs spouse prominently involved in advocating on issues before the court without the justiceâs recusal? Repeated omissions in mandatory financial disclosure statements brushed under the rug as inadvertent? A justiceâs taxpayer-financed staff reportedly helping to promote her books? Private school tuition for a justiceâs family member covered by a wealthy benefactor? Wow.

Although the exact numbers fluctuate because of vacancies, the core of our federal judiciary comprises roughly 540 magistrate judges, 670 district judges, 180 appeals court judges and nine Supreme Court justices â fewer than 1,500 men and women in a country of more than 330 million people and 3.8 million square miles. Much depends on this small cohortâs acute sense of smell, its instinctive, uncompromising integrity and its appearance of integrity. If reports are true, some of our justices are, sadly, letting us down.

To me, this feels personal. For the country, it feels ominous. What in the world has happened to the Supreme Courtâs nose?

Thomas and Alito should have been fired already. If and when Trump is convicted his appointees should be fired and every decision they contributed to reversed.

rgio

Location: West Jersey
Gender: Male

Posted: Jul 14, 2023 - 7:26am

Yup...it's really not so complicated.

A Federal Judge Asks: Does the Supreme Court Realize How Bad It Smells?

To me, this feels personal. For the country, it feels ominous. What in the world has happened to the Supreme Courtâs nose?

Red_Dragon

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Location: Gilead

Posted: Jun 30, 2023 - 3:57pm

Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 30, 2023 - 3:39pm

miamizsun wrote:

if we're talking about racial discrimination i'm not sure
and would they accept any explanation that was offered?

Very valid point. Talking to someone who believes that racism and discrimination is an inherent part of their life, trying to suggest that it's not as bad as they think, seems like a futile conversation. Look back over the decades of protest music, and those frustrations with the Man keeping them down, and then say, "yeah, but your protests have helped and it certainly still exists but there's been major steps forward" and you can predict the reaction.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jun 30, 2023 - 2:19pm

Steely_D wrote:

Is that because - and this is my wide swing at racism - that those races put an awful lot of importance on education, and donât appreciate someone not working as hard but getting the same opportunity? I can see why they would see a problem there. How would you talk them down from that?

if we're talking about racial discrimination i'm not sure
and would they accept any explanation that was offered?

Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 30, 2023 - 1:50pm
rgio wrote: It's also a way in many states to slow bleed the pension requirements of public school teachers (which is easier than confronting the issue). Charter and magnate schools deliver results, vouchers do not. Underfunding public education is one of the largest problems faced in this country. You left out that the idea of a "private" school is rooted in racism.

Beaker

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Posted: Jun 30, 2023 - 12:52pm

rgio

Location: West Jersey
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Posted: Jun 29, 2023 - 6:14pm

kurtster wrote:

One of the very first things we can do to help get started is to make school choice and vouchers a universal option. This would be an exception to the one size fits all policies that as a rule do not work.

As is usually the case with the Republican mantra, the programs they support are more about transferring tax dollars to people who have decided on alternatives to public education than it is about performance. Both families with greater means and those who make money from the voucher program (see: Betsy DeVos).

It's also a way in many states to slow bleed the pension requirements of public school teachers (which is easier than confronting the issue). Charter and magnate schools deliver results, vouchers do not. Underfunding public education is one of the largest problems faced in this country.

School choice aligns with the pro-birth, the hell with them once they're born policies of the right.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 29, 2023 - 4:56pm
miamizsun wrote: asians and indians (aka the new jews) are rejoicing Is that because - and this is my wide swing at racism - that those races put an awful lot of importance on education, and donât appreciate someone not working as hard but getting the same opportunity? I can see why they would see a problem there. How would you talk them down from that?

Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 29, 2023 - 4:53pm

black321 wrote:

Absolutely...specifically improving the education of students in poor communities would go a long way towards "lifting all boats" and address so many of the adult problems we have, eg crime, homelessness, drug addiction, bad politics (ha).

There should be some way to make a nice slogan that summarizes: we donât need everyone to have advanced degrees in complex subjects, but we DO need everyone to be literate and know how to balance a checkbook and work at some sort of job.

Is that the responsibility of the college, or of the family/culture/elementary school system that the person is reared in? Iâll suggest that people pushing for affirmative action do so because they lack that fundamental starting position of simple competency. To give them a leg up into college is doing it many years too late.

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 29, 2023 - 3:23pm

kurtster wrote:

This is the very same thing I have heard those who support this decision say. By addressing education at the beginning rather than at the end will make things like affirmative action a backward rather than a forward policy, that in this case has outlived its purpose.

One of the very first things we can do to help get started is to make school choice and vouchers a universal option. This would be an exception to the one size fits all policies that as a rule do not work.

There's no rule. Charter schools are a boon in some areas and a 100% grift in others.

Special Ed is drowning public schools, and Voucher-Loving Tax-Hating families are using it to speed up the process by homeschooling everyone but the kids who need special services, making cost-per-pupil vastly higher than at charter schools.

R_P

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Posted: Jun 29, 2023 - 3:03pm
kurtster wrote: One of the very first things we can do to help get started is to make school choice and vouchers a universal option. MAGA!

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Posted: Jun 29, 2023 - 2:31pm

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