Nearly everyone will speed while driving when given a chance to.
Speeding is an illegal activity.
Sneaking into the country is an illegal activity.
Now here is where I get confused.
Is it if you drive a car, you can't judge any other law breakers ... or ...
only 90% of car drivers are not allowed to pass judgement on those who break law and sneak into this country.
Lessee, speeding, generally a civil matter, illegally entering this country, a criminal matter.
Makes perfect sense to me.
The point is, it's kind of silly to refer to "illegal immigrants" who are technically lawbreakers but face no real enforcement because we as a nation want them to be here as temporary cheap labor. Unless we also refer to "illegal drivers" (i.e. you and me) who are technically lawbreakers but face no real enforcement.
Just as you point out that nearly everyone will speed when they think no one is looking (or roll through stop signs without coming to a complete stop, or fail to give proper signals when turning), nearly everyone will seek better wages in another country when given a chance to, and we do give them the chance.
As the article says, no one is happy with the current situation, but attempts to see it as a failure of government may be utterly impractical (do you really think we can deport the 11 million here illegally and keep them and others out? Do you really want to spend the money needed to do that?). Perhaps it's more realistic to see it as a problem that no one wants to solve.
So if you want to insist on referring to illegal immigrants, you should also refer to yourself as an illegal driver (i.e. someone who is in violation of the law). Who cares if it is considered a civil infraction or a misdemeanor crime? That's hair splitting IMO. Breaking the law is breaking the law. Would you be less upset about illegal immigration if it were categorized as a civil infraction?
(a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal. (b) Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal.
So, if law isn't enforced it isn't law. Brilliant.
Such is the arbitrary attitude of our particular brand of government. There are a lot of laws concerning firearms that aren't enforced too - but the solution is more of 'em.
Perhaps I will immigrate to Oregon and bite you with my rabid mouth.
I can now safely enter your state because I would be coming from Ohio, instead of California. It is well known that y'all don't like Californians in your state. Its been that way for dcades.
On the other front, here, try this ...
Not interested in videos dissing the prez. Sorry.
Let me know if you prefer cake or pie and I'll make one when you visit. You can bite that with your rabid mouth.
Hey! I have friends in California! Watch it. There's so many Californians living here now I doubt anyone will notice.
I wish Kurt would immigrate somewhere. He certainly isn't a patriot, the way he belittles our president. What is it the conservatives are fond of saying? Oh yeah. If you don't love it then leave it. Just an idea... he probably couldn't pass the rabies test, anyway.
Perhaps I will immigrate to Oregon and bite you with my rabid mouth.
I can now safely enter your state because I would be coming from Ohio, instead of California. It is well known that y'all don't like Californians in your state. Its been that way for dcades.
I wish Kurt would immigrate somewhere. He certainly isn't a patriot, the way he belittles our president. What is it the conservatives are fond of saying? Oh yeah. If you don't love it then leave it. Just an idea... he probably couldn't pass the rabies test, anyway.
In 1992, Ross Perot warned us of that sucking sound called NAFTA.
NAFTA is an invention of the same people who brought us the EU, the Rio Accords, UN Agenda 21, et al.
We still have the monetary unit lined up for the North American Union, the Amero, all printed up and waiting for the collapse.
I agree, NAFTA needs to be dismantled, ASAP.
CONSPIRACY THEORY!:
Conspiracy theorists contend that the governments of the United States, Canada, and Mexico are already taking steps to implement such a currency, as part of a "New World Order (NWO)".<1><3>
Lou Dobbs, a former commentator for CNN, claims a "North American Union" is being implemented, without the knowledge and consent of the majority of the people who would be affected by this.<13> This Union, he and others claim, would include a common currency. He has never provided any substantive evidence to support his claim.
In 2006, Conservative Caucus Chairman Howard Phillips, WND columnist and author Jerome Corsi, activist Phyllis Schlafly, among others, reportedly formed a coalition against a North American Union.<14> On January 22, 2007, Republican Representatives Virgil Goode of Virginia, Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Walter Jones of North Carolina, and Ron Paul of Texas were among the 43 federal lawmakers who introduced H. CON. RES. 40, a resolution advocated by the coalition, that expressed:
In August 2007, rumors and conspiracy theories began circulating across the Internet regarding alleged United States Treasury-issued amero coins.
The inspiration behind these rumors may have been the posting of images of medallions created by coin designer Daniel Carr.<1> Carr, who designed theNew York and Rhode Island 2001 statehood quarters, sells medals and tokens of his own design on his commercial website, "Designs Computed" (also known as "DC Coin").<1> Among his designs are a series of gold, silver and copper fantasy issues of amero coins ranging in denomination from one to one thousand.<1> The medallions have the legend "Union of North America" on the back with his company's logo, a stylized "DC",<15> in small type.<16>Concerning his amero designs, he mentions on his website:
My goal with these coins is not to endorse a Union of North America or a common Amero currency. I fully support the United States Constitution, and I would not welcome (in any form) a diminishment of its provisions. I expect that these coins will help make more people aware of the issue and the possible ramifications. I leave it up to others to decide if they are in favor of, or against a North American Union. And I encourage citizens to voice their approval or disapproval of government plans that impact them.<17>
Unauthorized postings of images taken from his website have been reposted widely across the Internet, often being used as supposed "proof" of the amero coinage. Notably, white nationalist and former Internet radiotalk show host Hal Turner ran a full article on his website about the "amero coin", claiming to have arranged for a United States Government minted "amero" to be smuggled out of the United States Department of the Treasury by an employee of that organization.<18>
Following Turner's assertions of federal minting of ameros, a web site marketing the curio coins released a statement debunking Turner's claims of a government cover up regarding Daniel Carr's amero products.<19> The urban legend investigating Web site Snopes also ran a further counter to Turner's claims, stating "neither the U.S. Mint nor the U.S. Treasury has a hand in creating these 'Ameros'. These coins are merely collectibles offered to the buying public by a private company in the business of manufacturing such curiosities."<20> Hal Turner claimed that Carr's website had been created in haste in a matter of days expressly to discredit his claim about the coinage.<21> However, Carr's designs have been available through his website since 2005,<22> and according to a WHOIS search at Network Solutions, the domain "dc-coin.com" was registered by Daniel Carr on September 27, 2005.<23> In October 2008, Hal Turner released a video showing an apparent 20 amero coin, with claims that shipments of the currency had been sent to China.<24> Yet the coin in Hal Turner's video is identical to a medallion on Daniel Carr's "dc-coin" website, listed as "UNA 2007 20 Ameros, Copper, Satin Finish".<25>
For various reasons, some of which known, some of which less known, NAFTA did not work as we were told for all 3 countries - but I do suspect some politicians knew how we would end up. It might have been great for International Corporations to exploit people, but not so great for your everyday dude in all three nations. I'm dreaming of the day it will be removed. I'm also dreaming of the day where I can find a dishwasher made in Canada. I would certainly not support an immigration that outnumbers the number of jobs created and kept for the future. It's insane and would translate into a serious collapse of social networks, infrastucture, raised debts, and yes even jeopardized a democracy. So I suppose some can call me selfish and well, hell yes I will be in this case ;-)
You're spot on.
In 1992, Ross Perot warned us of that sucking sound called NAFTA.
NAFTA is an invention of the same people who brought us the EU, the Rio Accords, UN Agenda 21, et al.
We still have the monetary unit lined up for the North American Union, the Amero, all printed up and waiting for the collapse.
NAFTA is such a mixed bag... one of the major selling points when it was introduced was that it would raise the standard of living in Mexico so that people there didn't feel the pressure to move to the USA...
For various reasons, some of which known, some of which less known, NAFTA did not work as we were told for all 3 countries - but I do suspect some politicians knew how we would end up. It might have been great for International Corporations to exploit people, but not so great for your everyday dude in all three nations. I'm dreaming of the day it will be removed. I'm also dreaming of the day where I can find a dishwasher made in Canada. I would certainly not support an immigration that outnumbers the number of jobs created and kept for the future. It's insane and would translate into a serious collapse of social networks, infrastucture, raised debts, and yes even jeopardized a democracy. So I suppose some can call me selfish and well, hell yes I will be in this case ;-)
I agree - we did steal (modern) aka conquered (old days) (those of European descents that is - although Natives have the same genetic markups hence, they are of European descents as well, just not the same time frame) lots of land. However, we are in modern times, and the errors our ancestors did from 1500 to late 1800 cannot evaluated using today's standards. So whatever happened in the 1800 - is like done and should be over with. New York was Dutch, Louisiana was French, Alaska was Russian - so what, pray tell, how is it relevant to today's issues ?
There was no Mexico before Cortez invaded and conquered the area first called New Spain and later Mexico when it won its independence from Spain. There were no Mexicans either. Mexicans are the result of the rape of the indigenous natives by the Conquistadors. Mexicans are not indigenous to the area. Spain also possesed most of the American Southwest as well. Father Serra established the Missions in California. He was Spanish, not Mexican.
So let's be correct in not saying that the west was stolen from the Mexicans for starters. Mexico is about the same age as the US if we consider the Roanoke colony as the start of the US some 400 years ago. And there is evidence of Vikings in the present day US dating back to at least 800 AD. So who was here first, where ?
Zukiwi is correct, we should be dealing with the present and stop trying to argue about the past as an excuse to support present partisan agendas.
Good point and to take it a step further, the Meso Americans who originally came over via the Bering Strait overran the original Aboriginals who arrived from Australia in Patagonia and migrated northward only to be greeted by the Clovis horde from the north who eventually went southward to totally exterminate them. Quite recently in fact. The last DNA verified generation is probably in their 80s now. Pretty wild, evolution is harsh.
And contrary to American stereotypes, asking for a better deal in England isn't always like Oliver Twist asking for another bowl of gruel.
