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hippiechick
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Nov 18, 2009 - 4:45pm |
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By Tracey D. Samuelson | Published Wed, Nov 18 2009 4:59 pm There’s a new slogan making its way onto car bumpers and across the Internet. It reads simply: “Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8” A nice sentiment? Maybe not. The psalm reads, “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.” Presidential criticism through witty slogans is nothing new. Bumper stickers, T-shirts, and hats with “1/20/09” commemorated President Bush’s last day in office. But the verse immediately following the psalm referenced is a bit more ominous: “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.” The slogan comes at a time of heightened concern about antigovernment anger. Earlier this year, the president’s senior adviser, David Axelrod, said that Tea Parties could lead to something unhealthy. In September, authorities shut down a poll on Facebook asking if President Obama should be killed. Still, that doesn’t push the Psalms citation into the realm of hate speech, says Chris Hansen, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). The use of Psalm 109:8 is ambiguous as to whether its users are calling for the President to serve “only one term, or less than one term,” he says. Deborah Lauter, director of civil rights at the Anti-Defamation League agrees that the bumper sticker falls within acceptable political discourse. For it to be considered hate speech, it “would advocate actual violence or cite scripture that was more clear in its message.” But that doesn’t mean that it’s completely innocent. “Are we concerned about real hostility towards ? Absolutely,” says Ms. Lauter. “Is this a part of that movement? It may be, but in terms of this message itself, we would not criticize it.” “The problem is you don’t know if people who are donning that message in a shirt or on a bumper sticker are fully aware of the quote or what follows. Obviously that message makes the ambiguity disappear. If they’re just referring to him being out of office, that’s one thing. If they’re referring to him being dead, that’s so offensive. It’s protected speech, but it’s clearly offensive.” For many, the slogan is just a humorous way express disapproval for President Obama. It’s been tweeted and retweeted by Obama critics with messages like “too funny” and “an excellent prayer for America.” Twitter user Cheri Douglas felt compelled to share the psalm with others. Reached by phone, she said she found it on website while searching for Bible passages relating to leadership - a topic on which she writes, speaks, and consults for a living. Ms. Douglas was unaware of the verses that followed the ones she referenced and doesn’t think that those who shared the psalm wish the president harm. “I don’t believe there’s Christians who wish him ill will,” she says. But Douglas does say she’s unhappy with the president and used the psalm to convey that she’d like him to serve only one term.
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Coaxial
Location: Comfortably numb in So Texas Gender:
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Nov 12, 2009 - 1:35pm |
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Nov 12, 2009 - 1:11pm |
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hippiechick
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Nov 7, 2009 - 6:05am |
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jadewahoo
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Nov 6, 2009 - 3:01pm |
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Hey! All youse guys, and me too... STFU!
Now, back to our normally scheduled program.
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Manbird
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Nov 6, 2009 - 2:51pm |
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cookinlover wrote: You, two? same two you!
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cookinlover
Location: Auckland, New Zealand (former Boston native and Atlanta transplant) Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 2:50pm |
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Manbird wrote:Too, too much civility! You, two?
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Manbird
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Nov 6, 2009 - 2:49pm |
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jadewahoo wrote: phineas wrote: Too much civility.
To too much civility! Too, too much civility!
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jadewahoo
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Nov 6, 2009 - 2:40pm |
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phineas wrote: Too much civility.
To too much civility!
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phineas
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Nov 6, 2009 - 2:38pm |
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Inamorato wrote:It with unexpected pleasure, madam, that not only have I had the good fortune to find myself visiting the same forum topic so soon after you have graced it with your elegant presence, but that I am able to join you in a toast to much civility! Too much civility.
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Inamorato
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Nov 6, 2009 - 2:17pm |
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maryte wrote:To much civility! It with unexpected pleasure, madam, that not only have I had the good fortune to find myself visiting the same forum topic so soon after you have graced it with your elegant presence, but that I am able to join you in a toast to much civility!
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hobiejoe
Location: Still in the tunnel, looking for the light. Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:58pm |
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maryte wrote:To much civility! Hear, hear!
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maryte
Location: Blinding You With Library Science! Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:53pm |
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oldman wrote:to much civility To much civility!
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oldman
Location: Lost in Northern Virginia Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:27pm |
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to much civility
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jadewahoo
Location: Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:25pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: I meant no offense, sir, I assure you! Good day! *tip shat* *tips hat*
Well, hrrrmmmph, good day to you too, sir.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:18pm |
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jadewahoo wrote:Now that I find offensive. Cuz I don't know what it is meant to signify. I meant no offense, sir, I assure you! Good day! * tip shat* *tips hat*
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jadewahoo
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:14pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: Now that I find offensive. Cuz I don't know what it is meant to signify.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:12pm |
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jadewahoo wrote:Clouds are fluffy.
Take that!
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jadewahoo
Location: Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica Gender:
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:10pm |
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Clouds are fluffy.
Take that!
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steeler
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Nov 6, 2009 - 1:02pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: They may have the right to say the things they say but they could say "clouds are fluffy" and still piss me off if the intent is to offend. It's like the idiots who burn flags. I don't care about them burning flags—yawn— but the intent is to offend. That is what makes it offensive. I'm all for flag-burning as a means of making a statement, but once it migrates into the land of "this'll get their goat!" then lock 'em up. Okay that's subjective too but hey.
Folk can be offended, no question. The First Amendment does not prohibit that; it just prohibits state censorship based upon the publication causing, or being perceived as causing, offense.
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