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Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 4:25pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Totally misses the point. That’s the result of bad thinking: uh oh, better shoot everyone!
The right way to approach this is cultural - why do people think it’s OK to loot, cheat, laze about? Who has moral authority any more to really convince people to behave like we’re in a society, instead of a winner-take-all old west? It certainly wasn’t Trump, who never - ever - looked out for the people in our society who weren’t given a fair shake (because helping someone that’s not you, well that’s socialism/communism my boy, and everyone knows the only thing good for people is capitalism).

Although, look back at revolutions. They happen because the rich over tax, over work the poor. Then the poor rise up.
Except now the rich have precedent to learn from. So instead of allowing people to figure, on their own, that the rich are the problem - they have spent an awful lot of time and some money to tell us that it’s 
1) the immigrants 
2) the colored 
3) the poor 
4) the scientists 
5) the non-Christians 
6) the hippies
7) the gays
8) the socialists
9) the media 
who are keeping them miserable, and not the rich at all. 
And how will you folks fix it for all of us? Second Amendment Remedies! And the rich will sit back and watch from one of their homes…





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Steely_D

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Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 2:15pm

 HarleyRider wrote:

 The best way to defend our rights and protect ourselves is to replace radical left wing and anti-gun politicians like Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer with solid pro-gun majorities in 2022!


Totally misses the point. That’s the result of bad thinking: uh oh, better shoot everyone!
The right way to approach this is cultural - why do people think it’s OK to loot, cheat, laze about? Who has moral authority any more to really convince people to behave like we’re in a society, instead of a winner-take-all old west? It certainly wasn’t Trump, who never - ever - looked out for the people in our society who weren’t given a fair shake (because helping someone that’s not you, well that’s socialism/communism my boy, and everyone knows the only thing good for people is capitalism).

Although, look back at revolutions. They happen because the rich over tax, over work the poor. Then the poor rise up.
Except now the rich have precedent to learn from. So instead of allowing people to figure, on their own, that the rich are the problem - they have spent an awful lot of time and some money to tell us that it’s 
1) the immigrants 
2) the colored 
3) the poor 
4) the scientists 
5) the non-Christians 
6) the hippies
7) the gays
8) the socialists
9) the media 
who are keeping them miserable, and not the rich at all. 
And how will you folks fix it for all of us? Second Amendment Remedies! And the rich will sit back and watch from one of their homes…



steeler

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Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth


Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 12:21pm

 rgio wrote:

So as gun sales have skyrocketed the past year along with crime, the best way to protect ourselves is by electing people who want to increase access and mobility for weapons?  

The "more guns, less crime" notion has proven so wrong the past few years that the author of the 2015 study the Right/NRA pointed to has changed his position.  The notion of "good guys with guns reduce crime" lacks any proof.

If you wanted to protect everyone, eliminating guns is the best way.  Look at any other country on the planet if you need proof.  The more guns...the more death.  

Archie Bunker:

"I could end the skyjackings tomorrow. All you gotta do is arm all your passengers. If they know the passengers are armed, they know they have no ‘ superiority ' there. He ain't gonna dare to pull out no rod. And then your airlines, then they wouldn’t have to search the passengers on the ground no more, they just pass out the pistols at the beginning of the trip, and they pick ‘em up again at the end. Case closed.”


KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 11:28am

 HarleyRider wrote:
A super majority of Americans believe the country is heading in the wrong direction, suggesting deep pessimism and fear of the future. Being a victim of crime, to property or person. Making ends meet due to rampant inflation.The long-term moral decay in American politics, culture, and society. Excessive government spending and overreach into personal lives of Americans. A move away from our free enterprise system to socialism, preventing more people from achieving the "American dream."
 

Kurt ducks as the missiles launch.


rgio

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Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 11:03am

 HarleyRider wrote:
The best way to defend our rights and protect ourselves is to replace radical left wing and anti-gun politicians like Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer with solid pro-gun majorities in 2022!

So as gun sales have skyrocketed the past year along with crime, the best way to protect ourselves is by electing people who want to increase access and mobility for weapons?  

The "more guns, less crime" notion has proven so wrong the past few years that the author of the 2015 study the Right/NRA pointed to has changed his position.  The notion of "good guys with guns reduce crime" lacks any proof.

If you wanted to protect everyone, eliminating guns is the best way.  Look at any other country on the planet if you need proof.  The more guns...the more death.  
VV

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Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 10:40am

 HarleyRider wrote:
A super majority of Americans believe the country is heading in the wrong direction, suggesting deep pessimism and fear of the future. Being a victim of crime, to property or person. Making ends meet due to rampant inflation.The long-term moral decay in American politics, culture, and society. Excessive government spending and overreach into personal lives of Americans. A move away from our free enterprise system to socialism, preventing more people from achieving the "American dream."
 
We all saw how the Biden administration, it's socialist government tax-and-and-deficit-spending insanity, its debacle in Afghanistan, its refusal to secure our southern border, and its radical-leftest social agenda were rebuked by voters in the off-year elections last November.
 
While Biden's anti-gun allies push to de-fund our nations police, crime is skyrocketing. According to the FBI, murder in the U.S. spiked by 29% in 2020. Shootings in Chicago alone have more than doubled in a year and more than tripled in two years. And ambush shootings against police have more than doubled in the past year.
 
The best way to defend our rights and protect ourselves is to replace radical left wing and anti-gun politicians like Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer with solid pro-gun majorities in 2022!

F*ck I hope as hell this scenario doesn’t play out. We need more politicians in place who are not afraid of the gun lobby… not beholden to it.

Coaxial

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Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 10:33am

 HarleyRider wrote:

We are not living with a Joe Biden budget yet. The growth in 2021 is still a carryover from the Trump budget. Let not let Biden take credit for something that he has not engineered except the runaway inflation that his administration has created.
 
If you think the bozo that led the previous regime did anything but feather his own fucking nest then you are more delusional than I thought you were.{#Snooty}
HarleyRider



Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 9:37am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
We are not living with a Joe Biden budget yet. The growth in 2021 is still a carryover from the Trump budget. Let not let Biden take credit for something that he has not engineered except the runaway inflation that his administration has created.
HarleyRider



Posted: Dec 31, 2021 - 9:29am

A super majority of Americans believe the country is heading in the wrong direction, suggesting deep pessimism and fear of the future. Being a victim of crime, to property or person. Making ends meet due to rampant inflation.The long-term moral decay in American politics, culture, and society. Excessive government spending and overreach into personal lives of Americans. A move away from our free enterprise system to socialism, preventing more people from achieving the "American dream."
 
We all saw how the Biden administration, it's socialist government tax-and-and-deficit-spending insanity, its debacle in Afghanistan, its refusal to secure our southern border, and its radical-leftest social agenda were rebuked by voters in the off-year elections last November.
 
While Biden's anti-gun allies push to de-fund our nations police, crime is skyrocketing. According to the FBI, murder in the U.S. spiked by 29% in 2020. Shootings in Chicago alone have more than doubled in a year and more than tripled in two years. And ambush shootings against police have more than doubled in the past year.
 
The best way to defend our rights and protect ourselves is to replace radical left wing and anti-gun politicians like Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and Schumer with solid pro-gun majorities in 2022!
black321

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Posted: Dec 30, 2021 - 7:26am

Not sure i buy everything this writer is selling, but interesting discussion:

https://jacobinmag.com/2021/12...
Jiggz



Posted: Dec 22, 2021 - 3:47am

 westslope wrote:

Biden is sabre-rattling against the Russians.  Oddly enough, more of the Russian perspective is getting into western media this time round.

I don't like the notion of Biden creating a Bread & Circus moment for US voters but then he has been shown to be willing to compromise.  The probability of direct confrontation with Russia converges on zero.




Spot the diversion....
steeler

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Posted: Dec 21, 2021 - 10:52am

 Steely_D wrote:

Should have named his dog Brandon.




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Posted: Dec 21, 2021 - 10:49am

Thought I saw him on the 12/20/21 Jimmy Fallon - Tonight Show episode.
WH Christmas decorations framed his video feed conversation between the 2.
Must have been a re-run or maybe my imagination        
Should have been sleeping.
Steely_D

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Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 21, 2021 - 10:23am

Should have named his dog Brandon.
Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Dec 20, 2021 - 5:39pm

Joe Biden sets 50-year record for economic improvement in first year of presidency
black321

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Posted: Dec 14, 2021 - 2:35pm

I personally hope they dont pass another shotgun spending bill. 

Why Build Back Better is so unloved

Rick Newman·Senior ColumnistMon, December 13, 2021, 1:41 PM

Offer people free money, and they should become your biggest fans. Right?

Not really, it turns out. President Biden’s legislative strategy this year was to include some temporary new benefits in the big Covid relief bill Democrats passed in March, then count on them becoming so popular that voters would demand they be extended indefinitely. The Build Back Better legislation Democrats hope to pass by the end of year is Part II of that strategy, with extensions of a new child tax credit and health care subsidies among the bill’s major elements.

Voters aren’t all that enthused. Just 41% of respondents in a recent NPR/Marist poll said they support the BBB legislation, with 34% opposed and 25% unsure. Support for the bipartisan infrastructure bill Biden signed in November was 56%. That 15-point gap in support is the difference between legislation Americans want Congress to pass, and legislation they don’t.

This matters now because Democrats hoped the larger tax credit would generate a groundswell of voter support that would get the BBB bill over the finish line by the end of 2021. The March relief bill established the expanded benefit for six months, starting in July—so it ends this month. The latest version of the BBB bill would keep it going for another year. Instead of rallying around BBB, however, voters are wan—perhaps because the bill also includes green-energy investments, preschool subsidies, housing support, immigration changes, tax hikes and other things that make the whole package seem unwieldy.

Many Democrats have vilified Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, who has essentially blocked BBB so far, with objections to its large scope and cost, plus concern that it will worsen escalating inflation. But Manchin is closer to the majority view than most Democrats.


Manbird

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Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 4:26pm

 oldviolin wrote:
Stop it, old crusty...
But could you get a Carolina style burger at Tastee Freeze or a Big Biff at Biff Burger? Heck no...
{#Wink}


Oops. Sorry. Bad jackson...


oldviolin

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Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 9:50am

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:
 Manbird wrote:
so get beans on toast instead
I remember when you could get a burger at McDonalds for .15.
 Stop it, old crusty...
But could you get a Carolina style burger at Tastee Freez or a Big Biff at Biff Burger? Heck no...{#Wink}

Oops. Sorry. Bad jackson...
westslope

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Location: BC sage brush steppe


Posted: Dec 8, 2021 - 9:17am

Biden is sabre-rattling against the Russians.  Oddly enough, more of the Russian perspective is getting into western media this time round.

I don't like the notion of Biden creating a Bread & Circus moment for US voters but then he has been shown to be willing to compromise.  The probability of direct confrontation with Russia converges on zero.
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 5, 2021 - 6:07pm

 Manbird wrote:


so get beans on toast instead
I remember when you could get a burger at McDonalds for .15.


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