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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:31am

General note:  Instead of thinking of the metoo movement as out of control, did you ever stop to think that maybe sexual assault and harassment on many different levels has ALWAYS been out of control and we are finally seeing these people outed?  Cause really that is what is happening.  I think that almost every single one of these men is guilty.
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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:27am

 Proclivities wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:

Go to youtube and watch all of the video compilations there are lots over the years; make your own decisions. You have always seemed to me to be an open minded person, I think you will have difficulty giving Uncle Joe a pass after seeing all of these instances.
 

I'm not looking to give him a pass, and that aspect of him often seemed creepy to me, but I doubt there are any videos of him "feeling up" a woman.  The term has a specific meaning (or at least used to).

 
Yes there are, watch them or not doesn't matter to me.  He reserves most of the feeling up to little girls and teenagers but not exclusively.
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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:26am



 sirdroseph wrote:

Go to youtube and watch all of the video compilations there are lots over the years; make your own decisions. You have always seemed to me to be an open minded person, I think you will have difficulty giving Uncle Joe a pass after seeing all of these instances.


 

I'm not looking to give him a pass, and that aspect of him often seemed creepy to me, but I doubt there are any videos of him "feeling up" a woman.  The term has a specific meaning (or at least used to).
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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:17am

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Not one of those women look uncomfortable with what's happening.

I say this as a life-long liberal and feminist: libs have become the puritans they so often rail against. We've already turned our eyes away from each other (towards our screens), which neurobiologically speaking is mentally and physically unhealthy. If we make everyone afraid to touch each other we will further erode the best things about what make us human.

MeToo is going to end up a disaster if it doesn't change tactics - belittling, shaming and attacking people is usually the least effective way to get them to change their behavior. 

 
I have rarely if ever seen them miss.  I am hardly politically correct, but in almost all of the public cases the men have been up to some shady stuff.  Like I have said before whether it is Kavanaugh, Biden or Trump I am almost always prone to believe the women for it is much rarer for them to be out and out lying over something like this. 


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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:14am

 Proclivities wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
This has been an issue for awhile;  I addressed this in the unintentional irony thread.  There have been pictures and videos of him feeling up women and girls for years now.  I guess they are finally getting around to talking about this in the mainstream news.   He is done, he is welcome to continue to run and get operatives to make up things and say it is alright, but he is done.
 
"Feeling up" has an entirely different meaning than just unwanted/unwelcome/creepy touching/groping of arms, shoulders, back, etc.  It's actually what our current president bragged about doing on the Access Hollywood tape.
 
Go to youtube and watch all of the video compilations there are lots over the years; make your own decisions. You have always seemed to me to be an open minded person, I think you will have difficulty giving Uncle Joe a pass after seeing all of these instances.


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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:03am

Not one of those women look uncomfortable with what's happening.

I say this as a life-long liberal and feminist: libs have become the puritans they so often rail against. We've already turned our eyes away from each other (towards our screens), which neurobiologically speaking is mentally and physically unhealthy. If we make everyone afraid to touch each other we will further erode the best things about what make us human.

MeToo is going to end up a disaster if it doesn't change tactics - belittling, shaming and attacking people is usually the least effective way to get them to change their behavior. 
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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 11:01am



 sirdroseph wrote:
This has been an issue for awhile;  I addressed this in the unintentional irony thread.  There have been pictures and videos of him feeling up women and girls for years now.  I guess they are finally getting around to talking about this in the mainstream news.   He is done, he is welcome to continue to run and get operatives to make up things and say it is alright, but he is done.
 
"Feeling up" has an entirely different meaning than just unwanted/unwelcome/creepy touching/groping of arms, shoulders, back, etc.  It's actually what our current president bragged about doing on the Access Hollywood tape.  Still, Biden seems a little too "handsy" sometimes.

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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 10:44am

 miamizsun wrote:


is this a serious issue?

another silly meme?

or does he need a puppy?

 

This has been an issue for awhile;  I addressed this in the unintentional irony thread.  There have been pictures and videos of him feeling up women and girls for years now.  I guess they are finally getting around to talking about this in the mainstream news.   He is done, he is welcome to continue to run and get operatives to make up things and say it is alright, but he is done.


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Posted: Apr 1, 2019 - 10:38am



is this a serious issue?

another silly meme?

or does he need a puppy?
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Posted: Nov 7, 2008 - 4:20pm

Joe the Veep - Mr. October delivers.


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Posted: Oct 28, 2008 - 5:54am

 mjv1208 wrote:
I meant to add state his case without getting all angry about it. He definitely was getting angry by the last question and said something about "who wrote these questions". I think Obama might of? handled those questions better. Biden is a terrible speaker. After all these years you would think he would of? worked on improving these skills. It would be great for SNL if there was a Biden/Palin ticket. Think of all the laughs they could get out of that one.  {#Mrgreen}

 mjv1208 wrote:
I found it disappointing that Biden finally had a somewhat hard interview (not the typical softball questions) and he didn't handle it well. And then for the Obama/Biden ticket to cancel all interviews with that station until the election was really being a poor sport. The Obama/Biden ticket has received mostly a free pass from the mainstream media. If they are going to hold office they are definitely going to be under more scrutiny after the election and they will have to answer questions they don't like. They are promising a lot and the economic situation is not going to change over night. He seemed to be in shock to finally have someone give him some tough questions for a change. Someone with all of his experience should of been able to capitalize on it and state his case.
 

 
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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 9:05am

 mjv1208 wrote:
I meant to add state his case without getting all angry about it. He definitely was getting angry by the last question and said something about "who wrote these questions". I think Obama might of handled those questions better. Biden is a terrible speaker. After all these years you think he would of worked on improving these skills. It would be great for SNL if there was a Biden/Palin ticket. Think of all the laughs they could get out of that one.  {#Mrgreen}

 
mjv1208 wrote:
I found it disappointing that Biden finally had a somewhat hard interview (not the typical softball questions) and he didn't handle it well. And then for the Obama/Biden ticket to cancel all interviews with that station until the election was really being a poor sport. The Obama/Biden ticket has received mostly a free pass from the mainstream media. If they are going to hold office they are definitely going to be under more scrutiny after the election and they will have to answer questions they don't like. They are promising a lot and the economic situation is not going to change over night. He seemed to be in shock to finally have someone give him some tough questions for a change. Someone with all of his experience should of been able to capitalize on it and state his case.

 
 
I thought he handled the interview very well. The questions were baiting and ridiculous. Obama is not a Socialist nor a Marxist and the questions have nothing to do with critical issues faced by the voting public.

I thought Biden was quite soft-spoken in his surprise at what the interviewer was setting up. Hard to see that as anger. Biden's not just another talking head on Fox or MSNBC, he's a senior US senator and has the right to react when somebody tries to set him up in such an obvious and partisan way.

Rose said it better than I can.


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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 8:28am

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Those were not tough questions, those were ridiculous accusations that only fuel the distortion and smearing. 

This would be a tough question: "How will you keep Social Security solvent?" 

This is a stupid question: "Won't an Obama administration bring Marxism to the White House?" 

The person asking the questions was giving the ridiculous smears the same import that she should have given to genuine issues. She was embarrassing. Her goal was to perpetuate the distortion, not enlighten.  Biden gave an excellent answer to the "Spread the Wealth" question (letting the Middle class keep more of their income is NOT spreading the wealth.  Having the very wealthy pay a larger portion into the system (like they used to do) is appropriate.  Duh!) 

siderant... So many McCain supporters don't realize what they're cheering him on to do... he will continue making life too hard for the middle class so that the upper class can continue their lifestyle of excess and material gluttony.  Does anyone believe, after what we've seen since the start of these stupid Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, that ANY wealthy person is putting their money into JOBS?!?  Growing American businesses??  nope.  Trickle down economics has proven itself a failure.
/siderant

I agree that Biden is a lousy speaker.  It's the biggest reason he didn't get farther in the primary.  He was in hostile territory in this interview.  It was gracious of him to agree to meet with the news organization.  He wasn't very gracious in his response, but I don't see how anyone could be.  But he did state his case well, and didn't lose his cool.
 

Perfect. And, hey, Rose!
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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 7:23am

 duchamp wrote:

I kinda liked how Biden handled the interview. It sorta cut through the 'crap'.

 

I 100% agree!
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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 6:48am

I knew it.  Obama wants to turn us all into pinkos!  Thank God there are some folks that are smart enough to see through his deceitful veil and decipher what that forked tongue of his is really speaking.  Long live King George. 
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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 6:36am

 duchamp wrote:

I kinda liked how Biden handled the interview. It sorta cut through the 'crap'.

 

I agree. 
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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 6:24am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Well who did write those questions? Yellow journalism at its anachronistic finest!

Biden's a terrible speaker? Based on this? I saw no blunders. If he didn't laugh at the questions, though, and simply answered them, he would have indicated that those questions were valid. Which they are not.

...well said!


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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 6:23am

mjv1208 wrote:
I meant to add state his case without getting all angry about it. He definitely was getting angry by the last question and said something about "who wrote these questions". I think Obama might of handled those questions better. Biden is a terrible speaker.


Well who did write those questions? Yellow journalism at its anachronistic finest!

Biden's a terrible speaker? Based on this? I saw no blunders. If he didn't laugh at the questions, though, and simply answered them, he would have indicated that those questions were valid. Which they are not.

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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 5:55am

rosedraws wrote:

Those were not tough questions, those were ridiculous accusations that only fuel the distortion and smearing.

. . .


I kinda liked how Biden handled the interview. It sorta cut through the 'crap'.


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Posted: Oct 27, 2008 - 5:49am

mjv1208 wrote:
I found it disappointing that Biden finally had a somewhat hard interview (not the typical softball questions) and he didn't handle it well. And then for the Obama/Biden ticket to cancel all interviews with that station until the election was really being a poor sport. The Obama/Biden ticket has received mostly a free pass from the mainstream media. If they are going to hold office they are definitely going to be under more scrutiny after the election and they will have to answer questions they don't like. They are promising a lot and the economic situation is not going to change over night. He seemed to be in shock to finally have someone give him some tough questions for a change. Someone with all of his experience should of been able to capitalize on it and state his case.


Those were not tough questions, those were ridiculous accusations that only fuel the distortion and smearing. 

This would be a tough question: "How will you keep Social Security solvent?" 

This is a stupid question: "Won't an Obama administration bring Marxism to the White House?" 

The person asking the questions was giving the ridiculous smears the same import that she should have given to genuine issues. She was embarrassing. Her goal was to perpetuate the distortion, not enlighten.  Biden gave an excellent answer to the "Spread the Wealth" question (letting the Middle class keep more of their income is NOT spreading the wealth.  Having the very wealthy pay a larger portion into the system (like they used to do) is appropriate.  Duh!) 

siderant... So many McCain supporters don't realize what they're cheering him on to do... he will continue making life too hard for the middle class so that the upper class can continue their lifestyle of excess and material gluttony.  Does anyone believe, after what we've seen since the start of these stupid Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, that ANY wealthy person is putting their money into JOBS?!?  Growing American businesses??  nope.  Trickle down economics has proven itself a failure.
/siderant

I agree that Biden is a lousy speaker.  It's the biggest reason he didn't get farther in the primary.  He was in hostile territory in this interview.  It was gracious of him to agree to meet with the news organization.  He wasn't very gracious in his response, but I don't see how anyone could be.  But he did state his case well, and didn't lose his cool.

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