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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 4:23pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

He's also dead right.

Ironic that probably the most anti-postmodern poster on these pages has such an astute analysis of the hermaneutics of the phrase.


If so, it's only on the origin, and maybe what it means to him and whatever block sign on to it.  I can see where there is some element of the mixing of the anti-president and anti-media sentiment that I hadn't picked up. But it's really just a unifying meme that the 'in group' thinks is clever. I think you are giving far too much credit to how much thought went into the symbolism. It's a viral meme, Much like Cheetolini and the others that preceded it on the other side.

I'm not the elitist that K thinks I am regardless of which sports I follow (you follow GP racing, where does that put you on the might be an elitist scale?).  I do think this particular meme is interesting in that it tries to make nice the sentiment of 'fuck Joe Biden', when there hasn't been much pulling of rhetoric anywhere else - and I'm sure it wasn't done for pleasantness.   But hey, I don't have a dog in this hunt. I'm surely against most of the Trump Doctorine, but not really a fan of the Democrat platform or process so far either.  It all just looks like another step in the march to the end to me. So I'll not be rooting for either team to go farther down this road.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 2:54pm

 kurtster wrote:

First off, any direct contact islander has with me is only to troll me.  He has no interest in any discussion with me.  He just does it to browbeat me.  There is no honorable intent present, ever.  Period, end of story.

So on to the code thing and now you double down and go dog whistle on me to boot.  Dig your hole deeper.  I find the need for your definition of what code means to you because you say mine is incorrect.

And now dog whistle ?  Do you even know what it means ?  How do you define dog whistle ?

In politics, a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition.

I stand corrected. You were trying to provoke.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 2:18pm

 haresfur wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

I was being trolled.  I knew the answer before I asked my question.  And by asking for a reference for the notion of why he thought it was a "code" is totally legitimate.  It is not a code for anything.  The meaning is not secret nor hidden.  Never was. 

Nor does ignorance of the expression make it a code.  On the other hand, declaring it a code displays the ignorance of the accuser.


Well that's some revisionist history, right there and I don't need to backscroll far. Nothing in Islander's orignial statement was trolling. Using one statement to mean something else that isn't really what the statement superficially indicates is about the definition of code. Or maybe you prefer dog whistle?
 
First off, any direct contact islander has with me is only to troll me.  He has no interest in any discussion with me.  He just does it to browbeat me.  There is no honorable intent present, ever.  Period, end of story.

So on to the code thing and now you double down and go dog whistle on me to boot.  Dig your hole deeper.  I find the need for your definition of what code means to you because you say mine is incorrect.

And now dog whistle ?  Do you even know what it means ?  How do you define dog whistle ?
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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 11:36am

 Lazy8 wrote:
..... the hermaneutics of the phrase.

Had to look that word up.   -hehe-

I do not agree with many of Biden's policies but I do regard him as an honourable man of integrity.  Somebody who is more than worthy of being the President of the USA.  

It is a little surprising that so many Americans — ~45% — view a complete of lack of integrity as an important qualification for the top job in the nation.  The times are a changin'.  


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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 11:26am

 kurtster wrote:

This is the only way you can defend Biden ?

100% pure whataboutism.  Doesn't change one thing about Biden.

And this coming from the guy that employed whataboutism in nearly every post defending Trump during his tenure. Pot… meet kettle.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2021 - 11:03am

 islander wrote:
 


you're funny.

He's also dead right.

Ironic that probably the most anti-postmodern poster on these pages has such an astute analysis of the hermaneutics of the phrase.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 10:21pm

 kurtster wrote:

I was being trolled.  I knew the answer before I asked my question.  And by asking for a reference for the notion of why he thought it was a "code" is totally legitimate.  It is not a code for anything.  The meaning is not secret nor hidden.  Never was. 

Nor does ignorance of the expression make it a code.  On the other hand, declaring it a code displays the ignorance of the accuser.


Well that's some revisionist history, right there and I don't need to backscroll far. Nothing in Islander's orignial statement was trolling. Using one statement to mean something else that isn't really what the statement superficially indicates is about the definition of code. Or maybe you prefer dog whistle?
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 9:19pm

 steeler wrote:

I guess the suggestion is that the rhetoric has been elevated. A finely honed chant to replace the more pedestrian  â€œBuild that wall!,” “CNN sucks,” and, of course, “lock her/him up.” 
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Heady stuff! Satire at its finest!
.


Without a platform (and only a cult leader), all you're left with is Democrat Derangement Syndrome.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 8:58pm


I guess the suggestion is that the rhetoric has been elevated. A finely honed chant to replace the more pedestrian  â€œBuild that wall!,” “CNN sucks,” and, of course, “lock her/him up.” 
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Heady stuff! Satire at its finest!
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 8:47pm

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This is the only way you can defend Biden ?

100% pure whataboutism.  Doesn't change one thing about Biden.

There are other ways. Biden is not a serial rapist. And not a loser (of the 2020 elections). Find some soothing salve for your butt.

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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 8:43pm

 haresfur wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
You really are clueless or so flipping out of touch and assume everything is rooted in codes or secret conspiracy theories.

You are really clueless and out of touch if you jump on using a phrase without understanding where it came from and what it has come to mean.

But I don't think that is really the case. By asking, "What code?" you are trolling, plain and simple. Because you then go on and explain the nuances of what it is code for.

 
I was being trolled.  I knew the answer before I asked my question.  And by asking for a reference for the notion of why he thought it was a "code" is totally legitimate.  It is not a code for anything.  The meaning is not secret nor hidden.  Never was. 

Nor does ignorance of the expression make it a code.  On the other hand, declaring it a code displays the ignorance of the accuser.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 8:33pm

 Coaxial wrote:
May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'If you voted for a man who said windmills cause cancer, used a Sharpie to change the path of a hurricane, autographed Bibles, saluted a North Korean general, stared into the sun twice, said there were airplanes in the 00220 Revolutionary War, wanted to nuke hurricanes, and suggested that bleach could cure COVID, your opinion of Joe Biden's sanity is laughably irrelevant.'
 
This is the only way you can defend Biden ?

100% pure whataboutism.  Doesn't change one thing about Biden.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 8:32pm

 kurtster wrote:
You really are clueless or so flipping out of touch and assume everything is rooted in codes or secret conspiracy theories.

You are really clueless and out of touch if you jump on using a phrase without understanding where it came from and what it has come to mean.

But I don't think that is really the case. By asking, "What code?" you are trolling, plain and simple. Because you then go on and explain the nuances of what it is code for.

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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 8:27pm

May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'If you voted for a man who said windmills cause cancer, used a Sharpie to change the path of a hurricane, autographed Bibles, saluted a North Korean general, stared into the sun twice, said there were airplanes in the 00220 Revolutionary War, wanted to nuke hurricanes, and suggested that bleach could cure COVID, your opinion of Joe Biden's sanity is laughably irrelevant.'
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 6:24pm

 R_P wrote:

Bra-vo.


Yo Richard, let's go.... get a taco.
islander

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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 6:22pm

 kurtster wrote:
Bunch o stuff that won't quote



 

you're funny.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 5:27pm

 kurtster wrote:
Let's Go Richard !!!!

You rebel, you!

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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 5:13pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
Everybody in my unwashed tribe is doing it, so I do it too!

Bra-vo.
 
Let's Go Richard !!!!
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 5:08pm

 kurtster wrote:
Everybody in my unwashed tribe is doing it, so I do it too!

Bra-vo.
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Posted: Oct 29, 2021 - 4:16pm

 islander wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

What code ?  Please explain. If a code as you say, what is its origin ?


Oh jeeez, so now you can't even own up to it?  Let me guess, you just like the cadence of the phrase? or you have a good buddy with motivational issues named brandon and this is your crusade to get him off the couch?  Why the fear of using the actual words? Do you think you're getting away with something?
 
You really are clueless or so flipping out of touch and assume everything is rooted in codes or secret conspiracy theories.

As Zep went and posted the link, it tells most of the story.  I have been aware of the spontaneous chant of Fuck Joe Biden since it first happened at football games back in September, because I do watch Fox News.  They have been covering the chants, even putting montages of them together.  No one else was covering it or if they did they tried to tamp it down.

So fast forward to the NASCAR post race interview on NBC.  You do know that Fox has the first half of the race season and NBC has the second half right ?  Most likely not since NASCAR and the people associated with it are beneath you.   That said, NBC is a protector of Biden and nearly everyone who works there is dedicated to protecting him.  So when the chant broke out during the interview on live TV, the woman doing the interview said the crowd was chanting Let's Go Brandon to celebrate his victory trying to ignore and cover up the obvious.  It was a display of how much the media shills for and protects Biden.  And for that reason, it has taken on its own life going forward.

But since you need help in understanding how the unwashed think I'll take this a little further.  You thought it only slams Biden.  Wrong.  It has become a meme that slams both Biden and his media protectors all in one nice little package that cannot be censored, so far.  At least that is what it means to those who use it.  You may not agree with my explanation, but do so at your own risk because whether you like it or not, this is its actual meaning.

So with that, everything you said about me in response to my question illustrates one of two things.  You don't understand the obvious or you are simply outright trolling me.

With that in closing ... Let's Go Islander !!!!
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