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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 - 8:58am

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So the fourth estate didn't used to be based on profit-making companies back in the golden age? It used to be government subsidized?

Tell me more of this planet you speak of.

 
No, but thanks for once again putting words in my mouth!

{#Wink} 
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Posted: Aug 1, 2017 - 3:56pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
 aflanigan wrote:
So for those who decry fake news, bad reporting, political corruption, etc. and wonder what happened to the golden age of journalism, the $64,000 question is: How can a fourth estate based on profit making companies, independent of government subsidies (which would reek of the potential for propaganda), continue to ensure the survival of good quality investigative journalism when it doesn't make you much money?

Democracy's Detectives (book review) 

So the fourth estate didn't used to be based on profit-making companies back in the golden age? It used to be government subsidized?

Tell me more of this planet you speak of.

 
... You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war.”
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Posted: Aug 1, 2017 - 3:40pm

 aflanigan wrote:
So for those who decry fake news, bad reporting, political corruption, etc. and wonder what happened to the golden age of journalism, the $64,000 question is: How can a fourth estate based on profit making companies, independent of government subsidies (which would reek of the potential for propaganda), continue to ensure the survival of good quality investigative journalism when it doesn't make you much money?

Democracy's Detectives (book review) 

So the fourth estate didn't used to be based on profit-making companies back in the golden age? It used to be government subsidized?

Tell me more of this planet you speak of.
aflanigan

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Posted: Aug 1, 2017 - 3:18pm

So for those who decry fake news, bad reporting, political corruption, etc. and wonder what happened to the golden age of journalism, the $64,000 question is: How can a fourth estate based on profit making companies, independent of government subsidies (which would reek of the potential for propaganda), continue to ensure the survival of good quality investigative journalism when it doesn't make you much money?

Democracy's Detectives (book review) 


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Posted: Jul 20, 2017 - 3:01pm

this.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2017 - 7:26am

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You mean like 8 years of attacks of Fox News as illegitimate, the attacks on the Associated Press and Rosen of Fox News as criminals in particular ?

 
The "attacks" against Fox News' legitimacy (largely by non-governmental entities) could not really be considered "personal", and the AP and Rosen "investigations" you brought up are mentioned in the linked article; I guess you didn't finish reading it all.

 "The Obama administration also repeatedly threatened journalists with prison under the guise of investigations into leaks that allegedly threatened national security. When I was senior managing editor of the Associated Press, the Obama administration secretly seized the wire service's phone records in order to reveal AP's sources. A New York Times reporter, James Risen, was kept under threat of jail for years to pressure him to reveal his sources. An FBI agent accused Fox News reporter James Rosen of possible espionage for basic reporting. NPR and other news organizations reported on these actions and protested vehemently. These were chilling threats to obstruct journalism and even criminalize it. I and many other journalists said so. Risen described the Obama administration as the most antagonistic to the press of any since Nixon."

  One other difference is that we have a President-Elect who has expressed his desire to re-write the First Amendment (e.g.: "open up libel laws") several times.
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Posted: Jan 18, 2017 - 6:29am

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You mean like 8 years of attacks of Fox News as illegitimate, the attacks on the Associated Press and Rosen of Fox News as criminals in particular ?
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Posted: Jan 17, 2017 - 4:27pm

“If you, Mr. Trump, fail to take the Russian threat seriously, if you do not disentangle yourself from your business interests, if you promote corrupt or conflicted advisers and cabinet members, if you fail to understand the gravity of the foreign policy crisis you face, if you deprive millions of health care without an alternative, if you fail to act on the global threat of climate change, if you pit Americans against each other by race, gender, and religion, if you undermine science and reason … there will be an asterisk next to your name,” Rather wrote.


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Posted: Jan 17, 2017 - 3:48pm

We Cannot Tolerate Legal and Personal Attacks on Journalists For Doing Their Jobs
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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 - 7:50pm

 aflanigan wrote: 
Did newspapers exist to make a profit and get eyeballs?
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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 - 7:01pm

 aflanigan wrote: 
 Lazy8 wrote:  .
Steve Bannon will totally neutralize the news media, Trump just released an in-house produced video on YouTube of policies passing up the media.
.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xX_KaStFT8


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Posted: Nov 21, 2016 - 6:29pm

The fall of Salon.com

How a digital trailblazer and progressive powerhouse lost its way.

05/27/16 12:34 AM EDT

The low point arrived when my editor G-chatted me with the observation that our traffic figures were lagging that day and ordered me to ‘publish something within the hour,’” Andrew Leonard, who left Salon in 2014, recalled in a post. “Which, translated into my new reality, meant ‘Go troll Twitter for something to get mad about — Uber, or Mark Zuckerberg, or Tea Party Republicans — and then produce a rant about it.’ … I performed my duty, but not without thinking, ‘Is this what 25 years as a dedicated reporter have led to?’ That’s when it dawned on me: I was no longer inventing the future. I was a victim of it. So I quit my job to keep my sanity.”

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Posted: Mar 31, 2016 - 9:00am

Has the media totally lost its ability to be objective? Does it now exist purely to generate page views or TV ratings?


Trump also challenges the media’s notion of what it means to be “objective.” Among other things, Trump has frequently invoked misogyny and racism; he has frequently lied, and he has repeatedly encouraged violence against political protesters. As far as we’re concerned at FiveThirtyEight, these are matters of fact and not opinion and to describe them otherwise would make our reporting less objective. Other news outlets will bend over backward to avoid describing them in those terms, however.


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Posted: Oct 15, 2015 - 12:44pm

The media’s big Benghazi test: Will they get snookered (again) by the discredited outfit’s leaks?


My bet is yes. Within 24 hours of Abedin's meeting with committee staffers, the leaks will appear in the media.

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Posted: Oct 13, 2015 - 3:01pm

Self-proclaimed "War Correspondent" and serial fabricator Bill O'Reilly once again humiliated by people who deal in actual facts.

"Garbage, Total B.S.": Reagan Aides And Biographers Blast Chronic Fabricator Bill O'Reilly Over New Book


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Posted: Sep 4, 2015 - 11:00am

 aflanigan wrote:
What do you think? Should this photo have been published by media outlets?
 
Yes, it should. I find it more sad than 'horrific'.
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Posted: Sep 4, 2015 - 9:42am

What do you think? Should this photo have been published by media outlets?



News Organizations That Chose Not to Run the Most Horrific Photo of the Dead Syrian Boy Were Wrong


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Posted: Mar 24, 2015 - 1:03pm

Move over, Jeff Gannon. Matthew Boyle of Breitbart News is ready to assume your mantle as the conservative journalist most likely to win a Pulitzer Prize for his hard hitting, no-holds-barred journalism!

The Right's Most Inept News Site 
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Feb 7, 2015 - 10:42am


Brian Williams also fought in the Civil War. He was under heavy fire.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2014 - 4:43pm

Very sad for Canada but if you can't have good news, this is how to have the right news.

Canada’s CBC News Shows What Thoughtful Breaking News Coverage Really Looks Like


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