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ColdMiser

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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 8:54am

 rgio wrote:

I've seen Luntz a few times recently, and his shock at the changes so quickly is consistently the highlight.  There is a video out there of one of his Zoom focus groups...and in it literally all of the participants were undecided about Trump/Biden...and they were all voting for Harris.  

Trump and the Magaverse went after Biden so early and so hard that they convinced Democrats that Biden was going to cost not only the POTUS, but the House and Senate.  Now, they're stuck in a corner where the same things they were saying about Biden no longer apply, and the party leader can't adjust from his "end of the world" rally speech to address issues.

Trump is a train wreck, and Vance isn't helping.  If the Republican party wants to return to its roots, the best thing that could happen is for Trump to lose bigly.  If that happens, the extreme right (and left) will have their power collapse, and maybe things will return to a more normal two-party system focused (slightly more) on policy and not personality. 

It will take a long time for the repubs to rebuild. They are so entrenched with Trump right now. Even if he looses he will cling to whatever power he has and that is power over the party. They will splinter soon when there is no $ for local/state races because Trump's got his fingers in the register of the RNC now. 

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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 6:44am

 kcar wrote:



I've seen Luntz a few times recently, and his shock at the changes so quickly is consistently the highlight.  There is a video out there of one of his Zoom focus groups...and in it literally all of the participants were undecided about Trump/Biden...and they were all voting for Harris.  

Trump and the Magaverse went after Biden so early and so hard that they convinced Democrats that Biden was going to cost not only the POTUS, but the House and Senate.  Now, they're stuck in a corner where the same things they were saying about Biden no longer apply, and the party leader can't adjust from his "end of the world" rally speech to address issues.

Trump is a train wreck, and Vance isn't helping.  If the Republican party wants to return to its roots, the best thing that could happen is for Trump to lose bigly.  If that happens, the extreme right (and left) will have their power collapse, and maybe things will return to a more normal two-party system focused (slightly more) on policy and not personality. 
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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 6:26am

Isabeau

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Posted: Aug 15, 2024 - 6:20am

Last night, Trump gave a speech in Asheville, North Carolina, that was supposed to be about the economy. Before he could appear, Trump had to pay the city $82,247.60 in advance, with city officials apparently concerned about the candidate’s habit of skipping out on costs associated with his rallies. Once on stage, he tossed economic issues overboard and concentrated on personal attacks on Biden and Harris, along with stream-of-consciousness musings on tampons and socialism. Apparently speaking of his campaign aides, he said, "They wanted to do a speech on the economy. They say it’s the most important subject. I’m not sure it is.”
— Heather Cox Richardson, Professor/Political Historian
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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 10:10pm



rojopem1

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 5:11pm

 kurtster wrote:

All the leaves are brown and the sky is grey toady

On another note… Bill, I mean William I guess, you’re on the right track with the Main Mix. Perhaps, and I know this is going to hurt a bit which is not my intent, but a little less David Byrne and also Jack White  

Thank you,

Bob… er, Robert 




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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 3:53pm

All the leaves are brown and the sky is grey toady
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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 2:28pm

 rgio wrote:

In the MAGAverse, it's about the emotions...  existing labor contracts don't have to be honored... companies dissolve and reform... just details that shouldn't cloud your anger.




Tides go in, tides go out, no one understands it.
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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 1:44pm

 rgio wrote:

In the MAGAverse, it's about the emotions...  existing labor contracts don't have to be honored... companies dissolve and reform... just details that shouldn't cloud your anger.





And Trump seemingly the new mouthpiece for Union busting. 
 
With Kurt the little duckling following right along... 


UAW president Shawn Fain, a harsh Trump critic, has previously called Trump a “scab.” He praised President Joe Biden for joining a picket line last year when the UAW struck General Motors, Ford and Stellantis all at once. And Fain has repeatedly singled out Tesla, the largest non-union American automaker, as a target for the union’s organizing efforts.

“When we say Donald Trump is a scab, this is what we mean,” Fain said in a statement. “Both Trump and Musk want working class people to sit down and shut up, and they laugh about it openly. It’s disgusting, illegal, and totally predictable from these two clowns.”


rgio

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 1:38pm

 islander wrote:
A) this is not what you stated earlier (nice try tho).
B) it would still be dependent on the circumstances around 'ceases operations' and if that was handled through a bankruptcy proceeding, a purchase/sale agreement, a stock purchase... or any of the many other ways a company can have it's assets transferred. You are correct that the employees are not assets, but the collective bargaining agreement may be a liability.

In the MAGAverse, it's about the emotions...  existing labor contracts don't have to be honored... companies dissolve and reform... just details that shouldn't cloud your anger.


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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 11:57am

 kurtster wrote:

Company A ceases operations, is dissolved and sells assets to company B.  Employees are not assets, as in property or account receivables and liabilities.

When the employees become brand new employees of a new company or different company the old collective bargaining agreement is no longer in force.  The employees can be offered new positions within the new company under new terms or the old terms should the new company chose to do so.



A) this is not what you stated earlier (nice try tho).
B) it would still be dependent on the circumstances around 'ceases operations' and if that was handled through a bankruptcy proceeding, a purchase/sale agreement, a stock purchase... or any of the many other ways a company can have it's assets transferred. You are correct that the employees are not assets, but the collective bargaining agreement may be a liability.
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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 11:19am

Company A ceases operations, is dissolved and sells assets to company B.  Employees are not assets, as in property or account receivables and liabilities.

When the employees become brand new employees of a new company or different company the old collective bargaining agreement is no longer in force.  The employees can be offered new positions within the new company under new terms or the old terms should the new company chose to do so.
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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 9:50am

 Beaker wrote:

Definitely not AI !  





47 years was a long time ago, Beaker. Just ask John Travolta's hair. 
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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 8:44am

Definitely not AI !  


islander

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 7:26am

 kurtster wrote:
 


One thing that usually happens when a company changes hands is that all existing labor agreements do not have to honored since they were made with the previous owners. Seen this happen over and over again over the years.  

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/successors-or-assigns

rgio

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 5:31am

 kurtster wrote:
 
One thing that usually happens when a company changes hands is that all existing labor agreements do not have to honored since they were made with the previous owners.


If an acquirer buys the legal entity, they are required to honor the contracts in place.   They are free to try and renegotiate (as was the previous owner), and often do because the business isn't profitable... but they can't just break a contract through acquisition.

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Posted: Aug 14, 2024 - 5:18am

Beaker wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Perhaps they were speaking about Yellow Freight Lines.  

Nope.  I think it was most likely the unionized janitors that were providing services to the Twitter offices, that Elon inherited with the purchase. Elon Musk aide told fired Twitter janitor his job will be replaced by robot: report

"The layoffs took place just after the head of the janitor union announced that they were organizing a strike last Monday. Musk and his staff have figuratively cleaned house since taking over Twitter by firing more than half of the company’s engineers."
 
I believe that you are correct.  I just saw the preceding remarks to Trump's comment and deleted my thoughts regarding Yellow Freight.

One thing that usually happens when a company changes hands is that all existing labor agreements do not have to honored since they were made with the previous owners. Seen this happen over and over again over the years.  Union will not work with a company, they sell to a new owner who has the ability to start from scratch with new labor arrangements.  New owner takes over and jobs are eliminated wholesale, usually getting rid of the deadwood that has been protected by labor agreements first.  The workers do it to themselves.
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I guess we shall see.  One thing for sure is that both are huge targets and if they can be brought down together that is a huge win for the usual suspects and worth every effort for them to succeed.
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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 9:22pm

 kurtster wrote:

Perhaps they were speaking about Yellow Freight Lines.  

Nope.  I think it was most likely the unionized janitors that were providing services to the Twitter offices, that Elon inherited with the purchase.

Elon Musk aide told fired Twitter janitor his job will be replaced by robot: report

"The layoffs took place just after the head of the janitor union announced that they were organizing a strike last Monday. Musk and his staff have figuratively cleaned house since taking over Twitter by firing more than half of the company’s engineers."

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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 8:58pm

 Isabeau wrote:

United Auto Workers files federal labor charges against Trump, Musk

"The charges of unfair labor practices that the autoworkers union filed with the National Labor Relations Board allege that, during their conversation, Trump and Musk illegally threatened and intimidated workers who engage in protected labor activity, such as strikes.

“I mean, I look at what you do,” Trump told Musk during the rambling interview on X. “You walk in, you say, ‘You want to quit?’ They go on strike. I won’t mention the name of the company, but they go on strike, and you say, ‘That’s okay. You’re all gone. You’re all gone. So, every one of you is gone.’”

 
Perhaps they were speaking about Yellow Freight Lines.  Just AWAG.  The Teamsters refused to renegotiate their contract in order to prevent the company from going under which would effectively put 30,000 including 20,000 Teamsters out of work instantly. Instead they threatened to strike.  That was it.  Bankruptcy was forced and Yellow closed abruptly.  I did follow this closely as it went down in real time.  Management said that if you are not willing to work with us on this, we will close.  And they did.

There are other possibilities I am sure, but this was one of the biggest unionized companies to say eff it and close in recent times, during the Covid event.

I do not think this law suit will get very far.  But it would be going through The Labor Department which grinds big axes for the unions and has unlimited resources and can defeat anyone regardless of wealth.
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Posted: Aug 13, 2024 - 4:09pm

United Auto Workers files federal labor charges against Trump, Musk

"The charges of unfair labor practices that the autoworkers union filed with the National Labor Relations Board allege that, during their conversation, Trump and Musk illegally threatened and intimidated workers who engage in protected labor activity, such as strikes.

“I mean, I look at what you do,” Trump told Musk during the rambling interview on X. “You walk in, you say, ‘You want to quit?’ They go on strike. I won’t mention the name of the company, but they go on strike, and you say, ‘That’s okay. You’re all gone. You’re all gone. So, every one of you is gone.’”


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