I believe Supreme Court justices (perhaps not the current bunch) have already indicated that the President cannot pardon himself. The DOJ has already issued an opinion on this.
If that option had been available to Nixon, an accomplished lawyer in his youth, he would have jumped at the chance.
The only things the current Supreme Court has in common with the one that decided Roe v. Wade are the robes and the office space.
Thomas and Alito would both have resigned in the early 1970s, something they refuse to consider in this partisan court. Look at how they are dragging their feet on the "immunity" case... which is solely to prevent Trump from going to trial before November.
I agree with the notion that no one should be allowed to decide their case, but it's not something I'd trust the current SCOTUS with.
Let's assume the NY one is settled either way, that leaves 3. The 2 Jack Smith cases could theoretically be pardoned, but the GA case can't.
There is a lot of discussion about whether a President can pardon themselves, but let's assume the SCOTUS allows it.
The GA case would have to wait until he's out of office.... which would give him good reason to want to stay in office beyond 2028.
His losing in November would be a lot easier for everyone... minus one.
I believe Supreme Court justices (perhaps not the current bunch) have already indicated that the President cannot pardon himself. The DOJ has already issued an opinion on this.
If that option had been available to Nixon, an accomplished lawyer in his youth, he would have jumped at the chance.
As for Trump's base: if they riot because of a Trump conviction, let it happen. As Dubya said, "Bring it." It's past time for law-abiding Americans to stand up to this cult which seems to love criminals "fighting for them." Not sure how Trump was fighting for the little guy by hoarding classified documents in a spare MAL bathroom but maybe I'm looking for logic from people who don't hold with such things.
Let's assume the NY one is settled either way, that leaves 3. The 2 Jack Smith cases could theoretically be pardoned, but the GA case can't.
There is a lot of discussion about whether a President can pardon themselves, but let's assume the SCOTUS allows it.
The GA case would have to wait until he's out of office.... which would give him good reason to want to stay in office beyond 2028.
His losing in November would be a lot easier for everyone... minus one.
Except that many of his minions will riot and there will be no end to the rigged election conspiracies. November looks quite terrifying.
If Trump wins in November, he'll appoint an Attorney General who will drop all the cases against him. At that point, you can say that American democracy is dead.
So... Not all of the cases are the same.
Let's assume the NY one is settled either way, that leaves 3. The 2 Jack Smith cases could theoretically be pardoned, but the GA case can't.
There is a lot of discussion about whether a President can pardon themselves, but let's assume the SCOTUS allows it.
The GA case would have to wait until he's out of office.... which would give him good reason to want to stay in office beyond 2028.
His losing in November would be a lot easier for everyone... minus one.
No defense was presented. The guy who they wanted to use for defense made Michael Cohen sound reasonable and honest... which is hard to do.
We can argue all day about the decision to charge him... but the reality is that he's guilty of the charges. The defense seems to think they have seated at least one person who will defend Trump and force a mistrial.
"...the reality is that he's guilty of the charges."
That pretty much sums up the four major cases against Trump. No one in their right mind is contending that he's innocent. Instead, there's a collective breath-holding to see whether Trump can escape the consequences of his crimes, like you'd do while watching "The Sopranos" or "Breaking Bad."
If Trump wins in November, he'll appoint an Attorney General who will drop all the cases against him. At that point, you can say that American democracy is dead.
No defense was presented. The guy who they wanted to use for defense made Michael Cohen sound reasonable and honest... which is hard to do.
We can argue all day about the decision to charge him... but the reality is that he's guilty of the charges. The defense seems to think they have seated at least one person who will defend Trump and force a mistrial.
Well, any of you who have been on juries before know that the decision isnât made logically. Makes me incredibly afraid of ever being put on trial when innocent.
I would bet that Trump insisted that his lawyers put Costello on the stand. And Costelloâs testimony/performance yesterday was meant for Trumpâs eyes and ears. It hurt his defense.
Agreed.
No defense was presented. The guy who they wanted to use for defense made Michael Cohen sound reasonable and honest... which is hard to do.
We can argue all day about the decision to charge him... but the reality is that he's guilty of the charges. The defense seems to think they have seated at least one person who will defend Trump and force a mistrial.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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May 21, 2024 - 9:24am
rgio wrote:
The defense rests...after one very questionable witness.
Surprise, surprise... Donnie didn't do as he said...
I would bet that Trump insisted that his lawyers put Costello on the stand. And Costelloâs testimony/performance yesterday was meant for Trumpâs eyes and ears. It hurt his defense.
Perhaps the strategy is backfiring? I mean, its like they say on Law and Order, if you don't have enough to definitively roast the chubby bastard, then...
Trump's Hush-Money Trial Boosts Campaign Donations Donald Trump has topped President Biden in monthly fundraising for the first time in the 2024 race for the White House. According to Federal Election Commission filings, Trump's campaign and related committees raked in about $25 million more than Biden last month, with donations increasing as his New York Hush Money trial got underway. Both candidates have ramped up high-profile fundraising events lately, with Trump pulling in $50 million from an April event at the home of billionaire hedge-fund manager John Paulson, while Biden took in more than $25 million at a New York fundraiser attended by former Presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton.
The case in Florida regarding the Mar a Lago documents is indefinitely postponed because of the fact that the FBI staged those pictures of the documents in question. They were found to have brought those now famous empty Top Secret folders that were piled on top of the scattered documents. The folders were not part of the documents themselves. In other words, some of the evidence was planted by the FBI and is now found to be tainted.
I see that they acknowledged that some of the material isnât in the original order, possibly due to contents moving during collection. Source for the contention regarding the staging - thatâs not just Trump or his echo chamber?
The case in Florida regarding the Mar a Lago documents is indefinitely postponed because of the fact that the FBI staged those pictures of the documents in question. They were found to have brought those now famous empty Top Secret folders that were piled on top of the scattered documents. The folders were not part of the documents themselves. In other words, some of the evidence was planted by the FBI and is now found to be tainted.
The case in Georgia is on hold as an Appeals Court is now considering the status of the DA and whether or not to remove her from the case.
The case in DC is also on hold as we wait for SCOTUS to make a decision on immunity.
And that leaves us the cases in NYC. The real estate case is on hold being under review and ...
In the Hush Money case we learned that Trump was so good in bed that Stormy blacked out afterwards.
Now back to your regular day which is already in progress.
Well, that makes us cousins (a few centuries removed).
John Howland is the dude who fell off the Mayflower. I'm not a member of the society, and didn't know his name until it came up with my future "in-laws". Seems my daughter and her boyfriend are related (probably about as closely as you and I are).
Glad to meet you Cuz! And fellow Jerseyites too (well temporarily as I'm OUTA THERE end of the month)