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Posted: May 27, 2025 - 4:22pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Forgiving them, just like Jesus.{#Rolleyes}
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Posted: May 27, 2025 - 4:21pm

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Might I suggest if you're going to go to the trouble of posting, you summarize the issue quickly.  I doubt anyone is going to click that header... because it's like saying "Tomorrow...the sun rises in the east"...

I assume it's about the tax pardon he gave someone after attending a $1M/plate event.   I just spent an hour+ on the phone waiting for the IRS not to resolve an issue for a late filing notice for a return that wasn't late.  I don't have a fax machine.... so they couldn't resolve it.  Good thing we fired everyone.  Who's got time for tax cheats when they can send me erroneous $490 penalty notices.

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Posted: May 27, 2025 - 4:14pm

If you're Trump's buddies, anything goes...
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Posted: May 27, 2025 - 8:42am

White House stunned as Hegseth inquiry brings up illegal wiretap claims
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 11:20pm

 kurtster wrote:

No, keep it up. Trust your leaders.  They know best.  It is what is in your hearts.  Saying what you believe is the right thing to do.  


So you trust Trump, even when he lied to you and is still lying to you. And he told you to hate immigrants and Blacks and people who don't look like you, so you hate them. And he said that Putin was a genius for invading Ukraine, so you say it too. 

AFAICT you're driven by fear and resentment. Trump and Fox just point you at a target and you go off. Meanwhile Trump has turned the Oval Office into Crony Capitalism headquarters and Fox keeps lying for him. 

Kurt, you can wade into culture wars and wedge issues for the rest of your life. Maybe you think that you're standing up for and defending a way of life under threat here. But it should be obvious now that all the craziness of "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats" and "you send your kids to school and they come back a different gender" was just a way to distract you while

TRUMP AND THE GOP TAKE YOU TO THE CLEANERS. 
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 7:09pm

 Steely_D wrote:

In his first term, Trump pushed us to the left in areas like immigration and law enforcement. Liberals took steps that they thought of as inclusive — such as endlessly embracing pronouns, land acknowledgments and terms like “pregnant people” — that bewildered many other voters or left them feeling excluded.

Worse, there is a tendency in liberal circles to denounce anyone sympathetic to Trump as a racist, bigot or fascist. It’s always distasteful when educated elites employ invidious stereotypes to dismiss millions of working-class people — plus it’s difficult to win votes from people you’re castigating.”

 
No, keep it up. Trust your leaders.  They know best.  It is what is in your hearts.  Saying what you believe is the right thing to do.  
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 6:50pm

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
You are guilty of deliberately spreading misinformation.  Isn't that one of the ultimate sins according to you democrats ?  So sinful that you had a department created to prevent it from happening ? That is not what he said.  This has been misreported everywhere I looked, either by editing the quote in an outright lie as above or the other lie, the lie by omission, such as a what Reuters did. "The job of the U.S. Armed Forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures," Trump said. "The military's job is to dominate any foe and annihilate any threat to America, anywhere, anytime, in any place." It shoulda been :
"The job of the U.S. Armed Forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures, ....   " Trump said. "The military's job is to dominate any foe and annihilate any threat to America, anywhere, anytime, in any place." to show an edit.  People looking for the whole quote on a legitimate news agency's site to verify the quote would be unable to.  Here, see what he actually said. 

Changing OR with BUT makes everything different.


Here's what he said. The job of the US Armed Forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures, but to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of a gun. So what Trump actually said is... they're NOT there to host drag shows... they ARE there to spread democracy at the point of a gun. You're saying he didn't mean what he said, and it should have been or instead of but? Either way you're making arguing something that isn't reasonable or factual. I think you're saying that Reuters didn't list the entire quote, but then you're saying that what Trump said isn't what he meant?  You're angry at them for NOT repeating his error? If they post what he actually said, you argue that's not what he meant. If they don't post his entire statement, you argue "that's not what he said"... but it's exactly what he said minus the parts you argued weren't right?
No matter what he said, you must be so proud of his wearing a baseball hat to the West Point graduation.  Very respectful.
 
JFC, y'all are are worthless.

Or that no one actually listened to the quote.

What Trump said is ""The job of the U.S. Armed Forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures, or to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of a gun."

For those who flunk reading comprehension.  Translation : The job of the U.S. Armed Forces is not to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of a gun. 

The "OR" in the quote has been substituted with "BUT" in so called transcripts of the speech which entirely changes the meaning of the statement.

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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 3:47pm

Excerpt from NYT opinion piece: 
“Trump excels at storytelling, and Democrats could learn from his talent. He has a knack for devising withering nicknames for rivals, he can be funny, and he conjures heartbreaking stories (sometimes out of thin air) of brutal crimes committed by immigrants. Democrats need their own anecdotes, and they need to remember that even when the stakes are deadly serious, humor is sometimes the most effective tool.

The best stories probably won’t be about immigrants; Democrats have so little credibility on border issues that priming voters to consider immigration may benefit Trump. But American citizens have been seized off the street and locked up on suspicion that they are undocumented migrants, and hemorrhaging moms like Porsha Ngumezi, 35, appear to have died because of rigid abortion bans. Voters should know their names and see their photos.

Let’s acknowledge one more point: We critics of Trump have made innumerable mistakes.

In his first term, Trump pushed us to the left in areas like immigration and law enforcement. Liberals took steps that they thought of as inclusive — such as endlessly embracing pronouns, land acknowledgments and terms like “pregnant people” — that bewildered many other voters or left them feeling excluded.

Worse, there is a tendency in liberal circles to denounce anyone sympathetic to Trump as a racist, bigot or fascist. It’s always distasteful when educated elites employ invidious stereotypes to dismiss millions of working-class people — plus it’s difficult to win votes from people you’re castigating.”



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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 3:18pm

So T just gave a commencement speech at West Point  telling them that “no one” wanted to go into the military under Biden…to a roomful of people who literally signed up when Biden was President…

When will people get the courage to remove him and charge him or his family and colleagues with fraud and treason? 
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 2:22pm

 rgio wrote:
So the White House changes what he says... OK. (...)

If it were Biden... it would have been he's so old.

The MAGAverse spends all of their time explaining why everyone is out to get them, and ignores the insanity of the Trumps comments, actions, and grift.

May be the same. Trouble reading the teleprompter, or doing his own (subconscious, imperial) autocomplete. A gaffe.

All the auto-generated transcripts use 'but' and that's what it sounds like.
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 2:16pm

As Trumps Monetize Presidency, Profits Outstrip Protests
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 2:15pm

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Freudian slip.

So the White House changes what he says... OK.   But Kurt attacks Reuters for "not reporting what he said".   If they had reported it, he would have said "that's not what he meant".

If it were Biden... it would have been he's so old.

The MAGAverse spends all of their time explaining why everyone is out to get them, and ignores the insanity of the Trumps comments, actions, and grift.
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 2:06pm

 rgio wrote:
Here's what he said.

The job of the US Armed Forces is not to host drag shows, to transform foreign cultures, but to spread democracy to everybody around the world at the point of a gun.

So what Trump actually said is... they're NOT there to host drag shows... they ARE there to spread democracy at the point of a gun.

Freudian slip.
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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 1:49pm

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Your quibbling fixation suggests to me that you are completely unwilling to intelligently discuss Trump's tariffs, deportation practices, or his looming budget that is trying to gut Medicaid and other services in order to pay for a tax cut for the 1%. 

American democracy is gone. We live in a cult-of-personality plutocratic kleptocracy. AFAICT your world is getting hammered and wiped out by Trump. Are you still a fan of Trump? Do you still believe his economic policies make sense? 



His martyr syndrome will not allow him to let anything that he disagrees with go by without protest. It's really quite pathetic.

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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 1:42pm

 kurtster wrote:


You are guilty of deliberately spreading misinformation.  Isn't that one of the ultimate sins according to you democrats ?  So sinful that you had a department created to prevent it from happening ?




Your quibbling fixation suggests to me that you are completely unwilling to intelligently discuss Trump's tariffs, deportation practices, or his looming budget that is trying to gut Medicaid and other services in order to pay for a tax cut for the 1%. 

American democracy is gone. We live in a cult-of-personality plutocratic kleptocracy. AFAICT your world is getting hammered and wiped out by Trump. Are you still a fan of Trump? Do you still believe his economic policies make sense? 

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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 12:40pm


TDS on full display.

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Posted: May 25, 2025 - 11:48am

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I’m amused by Trump addressing West Point like he’s a military man. Trump claimed bone spurs to avoid Vietnam. He was diagnosed by a doctor who rented his office from Trump’s father. 



That’s the state of the current mindless GOP: a military parade for a draft dodger.
A financial “plan” obviously ruining the nation by a failed, repeatedly bankrupt salesman.
A moral example with a history of theft, adultery, and felony convictions.
A treasonous selfish liar.

The Republican members of congress are spineless, amoral, greedy, and weak. And voted into office by a combination of fraud, misinformation, and gerrymandering.

Just as, decades ago, forward-thinkers warned about climate change and were right,
we warned you, but folks fell for Fox “News” and Russian disinformation, and voted against their best interests and now America is ruined. Even if he were dead today, America can’t recover from this much poison.

If you can leave, you should.



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