Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Aug 29, 2025 - 1:40pm
Proclivities wrote:
This administration has taken bootlicking to a level that Goebbels and Kissinger could only have dreamt of. Witkoff, a real estate investor who is thoroughly unqualified for his post, is particularly adept at it.
Trump had a meeting the other day regarding a plan for post-war Gaza that included Witkoff and Jared Kushner.
This administration has taken bootlicking to a level that Goebbels and Kissinger could only have dreamt of. Witkoff, a real estate investor who is thoroughly unqualified for his post, is particularly adept at it.
A long read, but an excellent and succinct letter.
My resignation letter from CDC.
Dear Dr. Houry,
I am writing to formally resign from my position as Director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), effective August 28, 2025, close of business.â¦
A long read, but an excellent and succinct letter.
My resignation letter from CDC.
Dear Dr. Houry,
I am writing to formally resign from my position as Director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), effective August 28, 2025, close of business.â¦
All hail the King of pretzel-logic and general bullsh*t. Since no one else has called you out on it⦠I will. The shooting in Milwaukee (to this point) has had absolutely no connection established to any charged political rhetoric or hate speech. And for you to suggest otherwise is typically and predictably asinine of you. Congrats!
What other half-assed thoughts do you feel compelled to articulate? Might as well get them out.
Just yesterday, the most recent example of this hate is the woman in Minnesota who took her anger out on children by shooting and killing as many as she could. This is the direct result of all the hate speech as explained above.
All hail the King of pretzel-logic and general bullsh*t. Since no one else has called you out on it⦠I will. The shooting in Milwaukee (to this point) has had absolutely no connection established to any charged political rhetoric or hate speech. And for you to suggest otherwise is typically and predictably asinine of you. Congrats!
What other half-assed thoughts do you feel compelled to articulate? Might as well get them out.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Aug 28, 2025 - 2:48pm
kurtster wrote:
So with the exception of noenz who did leave the door open for acknowledging the possibility of âillegal tacticsâ, none of the rest of you here believe that there were any illegal tactics or untoward actions taken against Trump in all of his trials and investigations. That whatever Trump is doing is totally unprovoked as in there is are no legitimate reasons for him being upset about anything.
With that being the case that "you all"* agree with, then why do you all call his actions retribution ? Retribution for what then ?
* you all as in the collective sense
I commented only upon the three cases.
Do you leave the door open to acknowledging the possibility that these were legitimate cases brought against Trump?
I firmly believe he would have been convicted, at minimum, on the obstruction of justice charge in the classified documents case in Florida.
You (and everyone else to be sure on this one) keep trying to say my support for Trump is based on emotions such as fear and love. That could not be farther from the truth. I have absolutely zero emotional attachment to Trump. My support for Trump is pragmatic and practical.
The thing being called retribution is actually only people looking for and finding out the truth of what, how and why things happened. And the consequences for the things done are what they are. If there are penalties for these actions, they are based upon laws and statutes. You and everyone else are trying to conflate simple justice with this notion of retribution. Hence my choice of calling it a reckoning.
The left, democrats, progressives or whatever you want to call the opposition are only selling emotions. There are no plans for anything other than hate Trump. That is all that they have. Keep people wound up in an emotional frenzy so they stop thinking and simply react in the way intended by those without a plan other than anything other than Trump is good, because we say so. Trust us, trust your emotions. That is the plan, their plan, their only plan, so that you all will blindly follow them over the cliff.
Just yesterday, the most recent example of this hate is the woman in Minnesota who took her anger out on children by shooting and killing as many as she could. This is the direct result of all the hate speech as explained above.
The dissonance is strong on this one, Kurtster. Unlike Islander I think your lying to yourself is actually your biggest flaw. Practically everything your have written above is a 180° projection of everything the assorted opposition (not just Democrats but also a huge range of academics and international observers) have said about Trump and similar "strong-man" autocracies over the past, I dunno how long. They have a long history:
The emotion and the blind loyalty of the cult
The hollowing out of the rule of law
The politicisation of independent government institutions
The radicalisation of just about EVERYTHING
The not-so-latent violence, just itching for an uprising they can stick their boot on people's necks (ok, you're not accusing the Dems of that this time, but you're not far off)
etc. etc.
And you have bought into it lock, stock and barrel. And you KNOW you have. Just you can't bear the thought that all those detractors just might be right. So you need to drown out your internal dissonance by noise (i.e. your incessant ranting on this thread). This is like an itch that you can't help but scratch, all because deep-down, you know you have bought into the bullshit big time. (EDIT: and everytime you post something like the one above, it's like putting some balm on that itch, letting you fool yourself temporarily into thinking that you the sane one and everyone else is nuts)
So, then, to take you at your word, if your support of Trump is purely pragmatic and practical (another oxymoron like retribution and reckoning, you're getting good!), then maybe just answer the question I posed a couple of days ago:
How is Trump helping your individual position?
Prices are up
No one is there to pick the crops
Tariffs are going to hit consumer prices big time
Medicaid has been decimated
The CDC shut down for all intents and purposes, which, surely must be of interest to you and P. in your health-compromised state?
Now you are just being precious again. You yourself claimed this was all payback. And you glorified it. The worst thing about you is not your love of Trump, it's your dishonesty to yourself. You haven't even got the balls to stand up for what you really think, instead turn yourself inside out to somehow paint any of this as "normal". It's not normal and you know it.
You (and everyone else to be sure on this one) keep trying to say my support for Trump is based on emotions such as fear and love. That could not be farther from the truth. I have absolutely zero emotional attachment to Trump. My support for Trump is pragmatic and practical.
The thing being called retribution is actually only people looking for and finding out the truth of what, how and why things happened. And the consequences for the things done are what they are. If there are penalties for these actions, they are based upon laws and statutes. You and everyone else are trying to conflate simple justice with this notion of retribution. Hence my choice of calling it a reckoning.
The left, democrats, progressives or whatever you want to call the opposition are only selling emotions. There are no plans for anything other than hate Trump. That is all that they have. Keep people wound up in an emotional frenzy so they stop thinking and simply react in the way intended by those without a plan other than anything other than Trump is good, because we say so. Trust us, trust your emotions. That is the plan, their plan, their only plan, so that you all will blindly follow them over the cliff.
Just yesterday, the most recent example of this hate is the woman in Minnesota who took her anger out on children by shooting and killing as many as she could. This is the direct result of all the hate speech as explained above.
Now you are just being precious again.
You yourself claimed this was all payback. And you glorified it.
The worst thing about you is not your love of Trump, it's your dishonesty to yourself.
You haven't even got the balls to stand up for what you really think, instead turn yourself inside out to somehow paint any of this as "normal".
It's not normal and you know it.
A reminder of the casual insight you gave us as to what you really think:
No, it's his dishonesty toward everyone else. No one cares if he lies to himself, it's when he spews it out to the world and it needs mopping up that is getting old.
Yes. But then again with the head scratcher - so in response to "I hate the elites" they elected a guy with a GOLD TOILET. Maybe George Soros has one too, but it's not been photographed that I know of. I'm pretty sure anyone who has a gold toilet meets any tortured definition of 'elite'.
Elite is a matter of perspective, and Trump not being accepted, praised, admired, loved and revered in NY, by those with power and money, drives a lot of his messaging.
Trump is untrustworthy, dishonest, and obnoxious. All the money in the world won't get you invited to NY social events. This isn't just a NY thing... it's every city and town. All of them have a social pecking order, and in NY Trump didn't make the cut. Epstein did. But was gone the moment his first indictment happened. Harvey Weinstein did. He was gone when the "me too" groups went public. But Trump was a known quantity, and nobody was going to socialize with him from the days of Studio 54. In NY, Trump was a failure. A joke. A scammer. Anything but elite.
The one thing everyone can agree on is that Trump is driven by revenge. Apparently, deep down, so are a LOT of Americans. They see a world on TV that all looks like a Hollywood movie. Last night, I was watching the US Open (tennis), and they showed a concession stand with $100 chicken nuggets. 6 of them with any sauce are $26, but you throw in some black truffle or cavier, and it's $100. Who the hell is buying/eating this? This is from the US Open website:
Elite isn't Trump and Asters... it's the 50,000 people in NYC who can afford to attend the US Open. Trump is talking about Billionaires, but fly-over America sees the 2 coasts and redirects their jealousy, anger, and frustration at the what they (mostly incorrectly) perceive as elite happening in blue states. Trump says what they feel, and even though he'd have been the first guy in line to sell "Trump Nuggets" for $100 and be seen eating them on camera, they don't see or care about the scam.
Emotional connection. "they don't remember what you said.... they remember how you made them feel". It's America in a nutshell. The irony is free.
Sorry. The use of the term regarding Trump originated on your side of the aisle.
I see that Trump and his flunkeys are denying that their actions are retribution not acknowledging that they are retribution.
Must be the result of a cognitive disconnect due to infection by TDS.
Now you are just being precious again.
You yourself claimed this was all payback. And you glorified it.
The worst thing about you is not your love of Trump, it's your dishonesty to yourself.
You haven't even got the balls to stand up for what you really think, instead turn yourself inside out to somehow paint any of this as "normal".
It's not normal and you know it.
A reminder of the casual insight you gave us as to what you really think:
kurtster wrote:
I've been thinking about how to respond to your sneering rant most of the morning.
Sneering, that is the one thing you all have in common in your regard to Trump, et al. That and intolerance for a different POV.
That said, let me give you another take. It is not retribution, although given all that has gone down, that is only fair and logical as a justifiable payback for the weaponization and lawfare the deep state has dished out.
Rather think of it as a reckoning instead of retribution. All the things dished out by those who cannot take what they have dished out comes back and smacks them in the face.
This is the time of your reckoning. You thought that you all could get away with this stuff forever. You all have run out of rope and you were running full tilt when the rope ran out. Yeah, it is supposed to hurt.
