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Mar 17, 2026 - 5:35pm
islander wrote:
But even if it were proven, the process right now would be what? Have the justice department go after people involved? that's not going to happen. Have them promise to be better next time?
The time to bitch was last year.
1) I didnât suggest action except to recognize (and presumably act upon) that our elections system is untrustworthy. Needs fixinâ
2) No, you can bitch anytime the problem hasnât been addressed. Doesnât have a statute of limitations. I still bitch about things in the past that havenât been rectified, hoping that theyâll be fixed just to shut me up.
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Mar 17, 2026 - 5:32pm
Trump Says Endorsement in Texas G.O.P. Senate Fight Is Imminent
Dateline March 4 2026 NYT
And then he didnât endorse either of them by the deadline - #TACO
trump cannot be counted on to fulfill his promises or commitments or contracts or wedding vows.
Well, it throws cold water on anyoneâs suggestion that thereâs a national mandate for the failed real estate salesman. Reinforces the idea that heâs a cheater. Practically: it cements the idea that our elections are at risk from many aspects. Gives more impetus to abolishing the Electoral College (harder to fake things if weâre not voting for electors by state).
Thereâs an important parallel story to this obvious fraud: the Democrats didnât follow up on it, just rolled over. They abandoned the nation when it was imperative that they didnât.
That said: trump is a felon rapist loser. We shouldnât lose sight of the fact that Democratic infighting is why they lose. Republicans obviously hold their nose and vote as a block for their candidate, no matter if he was best friends with a child rapist and human trafficker. That shows you how little âmoralityâ means to the party.
But even if it were proven, the process right now would be what? Have the justice department go after people involved? that's not going to happen. Have them promise to be better next time?
The time to bitch was last year. Yes, don't throw in the towel. We did fine for weeks while Gore and Bush argued their cases, Hillary and Harris should have done the same. Once you concede, it's over. A big part of why I'll vote Democrat when Trump is on the ticket, but I don't consider myself a Democrat. I'm all for infighting and arguments at party level, but on election day, it's all in and don't stop pushing until you have a clear winner. If you have conviction in your cause it shouldn't be that hard. That we can barely motivate 2/3rds of the country to vote is pathetic. That we accept what we have been given the last few decades is even worse. Yeah, yeah, citizens united.... whatever, there is a way to win. I'm not sure if it is too late or not, but a lot of people who are vested in the system don't seem to be to concerned with making it work.
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Mar 17, 2026 - 4:15pm
islander wrote:
Not unlike trumps endless re-litigation of 2020 - so what? The time to throw the flag was a year ago. The way to combat it is to have a good enough candidate that a solid majority will show up and the results will be beyond any manipulation without some pretty obvious evidence. The concession 'for the good of the country' is bullshit. If only one side is 'playing by the rules', then the game needs a reset.
Well, it throws cold water on anyoneâs suggestion that thereâs a national mandate for the failed real estate salesman. Reinforces the idea that heâs a cheater. Practically: it cements the idea that our elections are at risk from many aspects. Gives more impetus to abolishing the Electoral College (harder to fake things if weâre not voting for electors by state).
Thereâs an important parallel story to this obvious fraud: the Democrats didnât follow up on it, just rolled over. They abandoned the nation when it was imperative that they didnât.
That said: trump is a felon rapist loser. We shouldnât lose sight of the fact that Democratic infighting is why they lose. Republicans obviously hold their nose and vote as a block for their candidate, no matter if he was best friends with a child rapist and human trafficker. That shows you how little âmoralityâ means to the party.
Not unlike trumps endless re-litigation of 2020 - so what? The time to throw the flag was a year ago. The way to combat it is to have a good enough candidate that a solid majority will show up and the results will be beyond any manipulation without some pretty obvious evidence. The concession 'for the good of the country' is bullshit. If only one side is 'playing by the rules', then the game needs a reset.
88 counties flipped red. None flipped blue. Trump swept every swing stateâeach just above the mandatory recount thresholds. What are the odds? About one in never.
the foremost expert in election forensics, Dr. Walter Mebane, backed it up. His eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. Of those, 111,088 were identified with high confidence as intentional, malevolent manipulations.
And thatâs just the data. It doesnât even include the tens of thousands of voters still reporting their ballots as unaccounted for.
Not unlike trumps endless re-litigation of 2020 - so what? The time to throw the flag was a year ago. The way to combat it is to have a good enough candidate that a solid majority will show up and the results will be beyond any manipulation without some pretty obvious evidence. The concession 'for the good of the country' is bullshit. If only one side is 'playing by the rules', then the game needs a reset.
88 counties flipped red. None flipped blue. Trump swept every swing stateâeach just above the mandatory recount thresholds. What are the odds? About one in never.
the foremost expert in election forensics, Dr. Walter Mebane, backed it up. His eforensics model estimated that 225,440 votes in the Pennsylvania presidential race were possibly fraudulent. Of those, 111,088 were identified with high confidence as intentional, malevolent manipulations.
And thatâs just the data. It doesnât even include the tens of thousands of voters still reporting their ballots as unaccounted for.
I was making a general point as opposed to a case specific. I did not look past richard's post here for any specifics.
So whatever.
You're not following from the legacy site. Or? While reading umtpy posts directed at me over years and years... I wouldn't know what it would do to me. You've been a "rock in all tides" if someone asked me. (They try to avoid that in general.)
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Mar 17, 2026 - 12:03pm
kurtster wrote:
So this poor country discovers that they have rare earths that until now were of little value and suddenly can pay their own way for things. Well, they should pony up now that they can afford it and let the aid go to someone else less fortunate that needs it and cannot afford it. That is my point.
