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Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Jan 17, 2026 - 3:14pm
kurtster wrote:
We agree that it is trivial. That doesn't mean that everyone or anyone else does. I was just making observations. If nothing else, Trump is renting space in peoples heads for free, so there is that. He is fighting emotional responses with emotional shiny objects. Literally in this case with the medal.
Hmmm . . . what you evidently see as strategic on Trumpâs part, I see as pettiness. Strange to hear trolling being touted as a positive.
My opinion: He desperately wants to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize and has been advocating shamelessly for it since the outset of his second term.
Wonder why Rumpy Dump is doing all these catastrophic things... hmmmmm, and who is that guy Sascha Riley I wonder, and there's supposedly "millions" of additonal Epstein files still hidden by all those stinky criminals in our Capital, why? Why won't they obey the law and release these if they're bogus accusations?
Contradict myself ? Both can be true at the same time. One can be both a troll and a gracious host at the same time with different circumstances. Yes, it is very trivial, but look how much energy is being expended over this. Just looking around here is proof enough. It is a full tilt attack from the left over something that you and I agree is trivial. . . .
Just to finish this up: If it is trivial, why is Trump spending time “trolling” it? You criticize the “left” for engaging in a “full-tilt attack” on Trump over something trivial, but at the same time you seem fine with Trump trolling the Nobel committee and the “left” about the same issue.
We agree that it is trivial. That doesn't mean that everyone or anyone else does. I was just making observations. If nothing else, Trump is renting space in peoples heads for free, so there is that. He is fighting emotional responses with emotional shiny objects. Literally in this case with the medal.
Somehow we need to get the military to turn on the leaders. That is about the only way I see anything moving forward with as little bloodshed as possible. What say you ?
That's almost a certainty. And Trump will be a quivering baby when they corner him and Eva in their gold-plated bunker.
Interesting. While I am clearly talking about Iran, you are clearly talking about a military coup against Trump.
So not only do you believe there will be no midterm elections, you feel so strongly about it that you want to overthrow the US government in order to prevent that from happening.
Jeez Louise, we have a first here. An RPeep publicly stating support for overthrowing our government.
No point in any further engagement with you. Too risky.
Contradict myself ? Both can be true at the same time. One can be both a troll and a gracious host at the same time with different circumstances.
Yes, it is very trivial, but look how much energy is being expended over this. Just looking around here is proof enough. It is a full tilt attack from the left over something that you and I agree is trivial.
While many things concern me, the one thing I am most concerned about right now is Iran. Trump made a commitment to intervene on behalf of the protestors with a declared redline. I fear a repeat of what Obama did in failing to support the protestors back when and many people get slaughtered simply because they believed that help was on the way and once again they are let down.
To Trump's credit he is modifying his public statements trying to get things to settle down on their own yet something has to be done on the Iranian's peoples behalf. And sooner than later. I am steadfastly against regime changes, but this one is different. And there are so many moving parts involved. Both China and Russia are directly involved. Venezuela was a big move primarily against Iran, China and Russia forcing them out of their beachhead. So they are primed for action which we do not know how it will manifest itself.
Presently I see Trump trying to influence the decisions of other players using tariffs, which have been most effective to date. However I do not see the mullahs capitulating and abdicating, ever. Their goal is to bring about the apocalypse as prophesized in their religion. That they haven't gone that far yet leads me to think that they may be questioning their own faith and whether or not all those virgins are really waiting for them. They value their earthly pleasures more than their faith, which is really not that unusual when looking at human nature.
If SCOTUS strikes down Trump's tariff actions then our foreign policy goes down the drain. To date, tariffs are the only non military actions anyone has been responding to. Diplomacy is an elitist pie in the sky when push comes to shove. Tariffs provide a choice instead of an ultimatum. Choices are always better, imho.
Somehow we need to get the military to turn on the leaders. That is about the only way I see anything moving forward with as little bloodshed as possible.
What say you ?
"If SCOTUS strikes down Trump's tariff actions then our foreign policy goes down the drain. To date, tariffs are the only non military actions anyone has been responding to. Diplomacy is an elitist pie in the sky when push comes to shove. Tariffs provide a choice instead of an ultimatum. Choices are always better, imho."
GHW Bush did a pretty f#^kin' magnificent job pulling together a coalition of countries to oust Saddam from Kuwait. Granted, that coalition needed to go to war against Iraq but the US could not have gone it alone. I was and am a Democrat but I easily granted him his props there.
Contrast GHW Bush's diplomatic work and restraint (by not invading Iraq) with GW Bush's rash and arrogant decision to invade Iraq on the flimsiest of reasons. Never did find all those WMDs, did we? Saddam was willing to have full and open inspections of his country right before we invaded but no, Dubya needed to prove his manhood and majickly turn the Middle East into a democracy.
Tariffs don't work as foreign policy leverage unless you have multinational adoption of them against a country. There are too many countries willing to do business with the targeted country and that kills the effectiveness of the tariffs.
It would be political suicide for Trump to invade Iraq. It's far larger and more militarized than Saddam's Iraq was. It's far away. The American public wouldn't stand for it.
You seem to forget AGAIN that Obama/Biden and the West had an enforceable, verifiable agreement with Iran to stop the country's uranium enrichment and construction of nuclear weapons. Trump tore that up for no good reason—well, maybe because Obama was involved.
At this point, Kurt, you're like a circus clown trying to juggle too many balls in your attempt to "explain" Trump's foreign policy "strategy." I'm very sorry your claims that Trump wouldn't get us involved in foreign wars and misadventures have gone up in flames like a big fart reaching a lit match.
and that is why we cannot have any serious conversations here.
You don't engage, you post rebuttals with isolated facts that usually ignore those presented with an alternative set of "information". It's not serious conversation... it's the debate team protecting the argument they've been assigned.
The Nobel medal is a prime example. You attack the Nazi association of a comment, but the reality is that only Trump and an infamous Nazi have even accepted the medal of another recipient. As someone who's on the "meritocracy" side of everything, are you proud of his pressuring and accepting it?
You can spin your 4-D chess moves and his focus on pissing off the Nobel folks, but it's just false. It's globally known that if you give Donnie a shiny new trophy, you can get him to do what you want. Israel, the UAE, Egypt, South Korea, FIFA for God's sake.... all gave him awards.
Today he announced new tariffs (via Truth Social) on the 8 NATO allies who support Greenland. 10%, going to 25% by June 1 if he doesn't get control. He's a clown. Russia and China aren't a security threat in Greenland. I'm all ears...explain the genius in destroying NATO over a country with the population of Rock Springs, WY and the GDP per person of Vermont. He's already got a military base as agreed decades ago, and the locals are willing to discuss rare earth minerals if that's his thing.... so what's the strategy?
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Jan 17, 2026 - 12:45pm
kurtster wrote:
Contradict myself ? Both can be true at the same time. One can be both a troll and a gracious host at the same time with different circumstances.
Yes, it is very trivial, but look how much energy is being expended over this. Just looking around here is proof enough. It is a full tilt attack from the left over something that you and I agree is trivial.
. . .
Just to finish this up: If it is trivial, why is Trump spending time âtrollingâ it? You criticize the âleftâ for engaging in a âfull-tilt attackâ on Trump over something trivial, but at the same time you seem fine with Trump trolling the Nobel committee and the âleftâ about the same issue.
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Posted:
Jan 17, 2026 - 12:00pm
kurtster wrote:
Somehow we need to get the military to turn on the leaders. That is about the only way I see anything moving forward with as little bloodshed as possible.
What say you ?
That's almost a certainty. And Trump will be a quivering baby when they corner him and Eva in their gold-plated bunker.
What say I, really? If Trump is innocent like he says, just release his birth certificate the Epstein files and prove it. Quit trying to distract us by rattling the weapons that he was too chickenshit to ever hold.
Trump knows damn well that he will never get a Nobel prize for anything. He's just trolling them and all of you.
What do you think would happen if they actually gave him one ?
Easy answer. Nearly everyone who has received one would send it back to shame the committee for doing it. It would be the end of the org's credibility.
Trump knows this. The medal without the honor is only a trinket and Trump knows this as well. For you or anyone else to think otherwise is deficient thinking at best.
Anyone notice that while Machado gave Trump the medal he still did not endorse her to take over Venezuela ? He was however, being gracious in accepting her gift which I believe was truly heartfelt from Machado's end. It would have been very rude and even cruel for him to not accept it especially after all that she has been through. But that is just me.
You seem to contradict yourself within this post. You state that Trump is “trolling” the Norwegian Nobel Committee and people like NoEnz by accepting the Nobel medal from Machado, but then say he was just being gracious by accepting it? Or is there a dual purpose?
Given everything else going on right now, this is relatively trivial. However, I must ask why the President of the United States would be “trolling” the Nobel committee and presumably liberal opponents by openly and repeatedly stating that he deserves the peace prize and accepting Machado’s medal? Why is that a good or sensible thing? Seems to me to be pettiness.
Contradict myself ? Both can be true at the same time. One can be both a troll and a gracious host at the same time with different circumstances.
Yes, it is very trivial, but look how much energy is being expended over this. Just looking around here is proof enough. It is a full tilt attack from the left over something that you and I agree is trivial.
While many things concern me, the one thing I am most concerned about right now is Iran. Trump made a commitment to intervene on behalf of the protestors with a declared redline. I fear a repeat of what Obama did in failing to support the protestors back when and many people get slaughtered simply because they believed that help was on the way and once again they are let down.
To Trump's credit he is modifying his public statements trying to get things to settle down on their own yet something has to be done on the Iranian's peoples behalf. And sooner than later. I am steadfastly against regime changes, but this one is different. And there are so many moving parts involved. Both China and Russia are directly involved. Venezuela was a big move primarily against Iran, China and Russia forcing them out of their beachhead. So they are primed for action which we do not know how it will manifest itself.
Presently I see Trump trying to influence the decisions of other players using tariffs, which have been most effective to date. However I do not see the mullahs capitulating and abdicating, ever. Their goal is to bring about the apocalypse as prophesized in their religion. That they haven't gone that far yet leads me to think that they may be questioning their own faith and whether or not all those virgins are really waiting for them. They value their earthly pleasures more than their faith, which is really not that unusual when looking at human nature.
If SCOTUS strikes down Trump's tariff actions then our foreign policy goes down the drain. To date, tariffs are the only non military actions anyone has been responding to. Diplomacy is an elitist pie in the sky when push comes to shove. Tariffs provide a choice instead of an ultimatum. Choices are always better, imho.
Somehow we need to get the military to turn on the leaders. That is about the only way I see anything moving forward with as little bloodshed as possible.
You seem to contradict yourself within this post. You state that Trump is âtrollingâ the Norwegian Nobel Committee and people like NoEnz by accepting the Nobel medal from Machado, but then say he was just being gracious by accepting it? Or is there a dual purpose?
Given everything else going on right now, this is relatively trivial. However, I must ask why the President of the United States would be âtrollingâ the Nobel committee and presumably liberal opponents by openly and repeatedly stating that he deserves the peace prize and accepting Machadoâs medal? Why is that a good or sensible thing? Seems to me to be pettiness.
It is pretty clear that she knows Trump is purely transactional and he previously took the Soccer World Cup trophy when he was âshownâ it in the Oval Office. He has no real business in having that, yet he acquired it anyway.
She was hoping to buy his endorsement with it. Nothing more⦠nothing less. All due respect to Pretzel-boyâ¦Trump isnât trolling anyone⦠he is the troll.
Rump is a psychotic narcissistic misogynist and he is INCAPABLE of the levels of manipulation kurtsey gifts him with, the convicted fraudster in chief IS REALLY STUPID!!! Holy shit that 79 year old lump of hatred is proving his lack of intelligence daily and the 30-something percent of the people polled and supporting that moron ARE DUMBER, HATE-FILLED RACISTS THAN HIM. Sick pack of dumb dogs.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Jan 17, 2026 - 10:50am
kurtster wrote:
Dare we get real for a minute ?
Trump knows damn well that he will never get a Nobel prize for anything. He's just trolling them and all of you.
What do you think would happen if they actually gave him one ?
Easy answer. Nearly everyone who has received one would send it back to shame the committee for doing it. It would be the end of the org's credibility.
Trump knows this. The medal without the honor is only a trinket and Trump knows this as well. For you or anyone else to think otherwise is deficient thinking at best.
Anyone notice that while Machado gave Trump the medal he still did not endorse her to take over Venezuela ? He was however, being gracious in accepting her gift which I believe was truly heartfelt from Machado's end. It would have been very rude and even cruel for him to not accept it especially after all that she has been through. But that is just me.
You seem to contradict yourself within this post. You state that Trump is âtrollingâ the Norwegian Nobel Committee and people like NoEnz by accepting the Nobel medal from Machado, but then say he was just being gracious by accepting it? Or is there a dual purpose?
Given everything else going on right now, this is relatively trivial. However, I must ask why the President of the United States would be âtrollingâ the Nobel committee and presumably liberal opponents by openly and repeatedly stating that he deserves the peace prize and accepting Machadoâs medal? Why is that a good or sensible thing? Seems to me to be pettiness.
um, maybe, just maybe, that there is a precedent of someone wanting and receiving a Nobel prize and it is a pretty bad precedent to follow?
Dare we get real for a minute ?
Trump knows damn well that he will never get a Nobel prize for anything. He's just trolling them and all of you.
What do you think would happen if they actually gave him one ?
Easy answer. Nearly everyone who has received one would send it back to shame the committee for doing it. It would be the end of the org's credibility.
Trump knows this. The medal without the honor is only a trinket and Trump knows this as well. For you or anyone else to think otherwise is deficient thinking at best.
Anyone notice that while Machado gave Trump the medal he still did not endorse her to take over Venezuela ? He was however, being gracious in accepting her gift which I believe was truly heartfelt from Machado's end. It would have been very rude and even cruel for him to not accept it especially after all that she has been through. But that is just me.
BREAKING: After Venezuelan Opposition leader Maria Corina Machado presented Donald Trump with her Nobel Prize, she also presented him with her Miss Teen Venezuelan sash, as well as the original dress she wore when she won it.
That has got to be AI-too much definition in the arms, hands too big, breasts too small.
