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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 4:58pm

 haresfur wrote:


I'd rather have David Byrne as secretary of state


ditto
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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 4:45pm

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I'd rather have David Byrne as secretary of state
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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 9:51am

 Steely_D wrote:

"An ongoing military investigation has determined that the United States is responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school, according to U.S. officials and others familiar with the preliminary findings…Iranian officials have said the death toll was at least 175 people, most of them children."

There’s a lot to unpack here.

1) The USA military screwed up and killed more than a hundred little children that were sent off to school in the morning by their parents, who will never ever see them again.

2) The leadership of the USA military killed all these children accidentally. They didn’t know what they were doing and so many lives were lost. It’s all the fault of the “best” military on the planet.

3) trump immediately - without knowing what he was talking about - blamed the victim nation, making up fantastical lies about their incompetence or capabilities. The fact is - he didn’t know what had happened and so reflexively tried to lie his way out of responsibility.

4) This incredible fuck up did not in any way show the Iranians that they should back down from their animosity towards the USA. Instead, trump worsened things. He galvanized an enemy.

5) This chaotic nonsense attack, and the ones that followed, alienated our allies even more. They already, literally, think trump is crazy. This is consonant with that. But, they’re being forced into a conflict in the Middle East that they didn’t agree to and didn’t plan on and don’t want. In fact, Americans don’t want trump’s war, either.

6) Now American citizens have seen a massive price jump in gasoline, because trump’s administration didn’t plan far enough ahead to build up, then use, the reserves. 

7) Your children/grandchildren now are called into this mess, and may die, and - face it - none of this makes any sense to you.

8) And, if you voted for it, you should be damned mad that this felon rapist loser grifter thief is getting rich off it while you watch helplessly.


 Don't worry. Kurt is all fine with it. Everything is going according to plan.  
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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 9:12am

"An ongoing military investigation has determined that the United States is responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school, according to U.S. officials and others familiar with the preliminary findings…Iranian officials have said the death toll was at least 175 people, most of them children."

There’s a lot to unpack here.

1) The USA military screwed up and killed more than a hundred little children that were sent off to school in the morning by their parents, who will never ever see them again.

2) The leadership of the USA military killed all these children accidentally. They didn’t know what they were doing and so many lives were lost. It’s all the fault of the “best” military on the planet.

3) trump immediately - without knowing what he was talking about - blamed the victim nation, making up fantastical lies about their incompetence or capabilities. The fact is - he didn’t know what had happened and so reflexively tried to lie his way out of responsibility.

4) This incredible fuck up did not in any way show the Iranians that they should back down from their animosity towards the USA. Instead, trump worsened things. He galvanized an enemy.

5) This chaotic nonsense attack, and the ones that followed, alienated our allies even more. They already, literally, think trump is crazy. This is consonant with that. But, they’re being forced into a conflict in the Middle East that they didn’t agree to and didn’t plan on and don’t want. In fact, Americans don’t want trump’s war, either.

6) Now American citizens have seen a massive price jump in gasoline, because trump’s administration didn’t plan far enough ahead to build up, then use, the reserves. 

7) Your children/grandchildren now are called into this mess, and may die, and - face it - none of this makes any sense to you.

8) And, if you voted for it, you should be damned mad that this felon rapist loser grifter thief is getting rich off it while you watch helplessly.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 8:35am

 islander wrote:
So once again, you are in the wrong and spreading bullshit.  < checks date of post > just another Tuesday.  Now it's Wednesday, let's see what the sycophant circus wants you to post today.

Ready -> Fire -> Aim

Trump does -> MAGA justifies

Doesn't matter if the justification was the exact opposite an hour ago.  Defend everything!!!!
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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 8:19am

 kurtster wrote:


So sad that you blindly take the Iranians at their word.  They have done nothing but lie, cheat and stall during all of their negotiations in the past 47 years.

In all of this time, they succeeded in their goal of obtaining appeasement.  Rather simple and so obvious if you examine all of the negotiations over all of these years.

These are theocrats whose religion states and encourages lying to the Infidel as a worthy religious means to an end.

They just killed 30 plus thousand of their own people on the streets like dogs, not taking into account all those arrested and executed within the prisons.

But you're okay with them and see them as the poor missundertood good guys in all of this. 

ymwv, of course.

I see that you added thoughts after posting your link and while I was composing this.  The above only addresses your original post.  I haven't read what you added and it will have to wait until tomorrow.  I need to get to bed now as I have a 5 hour long monthly appointment with a big recliner in about 7 hours.  





Yeah, except for every major body except us that was part of the JCPOA agreed that Iran was either abiding by the agreement or taking steps to be in compliance. Then Trump backed out.

So once again, you are in the wrong and spreading bullshit.  < checks date of post > just another Tuesday.  Now it's Wednesday, let's see what the sycophant circus wants you to post today.
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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 7:31am


short answer, no. 

more a marriage of common views.. but it has its limits.

rgio

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Posted: Mar 11, 2026 - 5:02am

 kurtster wrote:
...
Your narrow spoon fed thinking has you believing that only an attack on the continental US would qualify as a direct attack on the US.
...

Aren't you the America First guy?   What threat is worth $1B a day plus increased economic pressure in the US?  Who were they going to bomb....and how were they going to get it there?  Broaden the spoon for me with your evolved geopolitical acumen. 
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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 11:03pm

The clown car on cruise control

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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:54pm

 kurtster wrote:


A final thought for the night ... if you want to go down this road then we need to start talking about Persia, not Iran.  Just like you want to refer to Palestine ...

g'night.


oh shucks, why not just go straight back to Darius the Great
(He was the first guy to use monotheism to consolidate the power of the state)
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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:53pm

 kurtster wrote:
A final thought dodge for the night ... if you want to go down this road then we need to start talking about Persia, not Iran.  Just like you want to refer to Palestine ...

FYT.

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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:51pm

 R_P wrote:

Lying by omission. The US/UK started it in 1953 when you took away their democracy and installed a dictator. For oil. The Iranian people had a revolution (which Americans should be able to appreciate) in 1979, and worked hard to ensure you won't do it to them again. You started this.




A final thought for the night ... if you want to go down this road then we need to start talking about Persia, not Iran.  Just like you want to refer to Palestine ...

g'night.
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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:45pm

 kurtster wrote:


So sad that you blindly take the Iranians at their word.  They have done nothing but lie, cheat and stall during all of their negotiations in the past 47 years.

In all of this time, they succeeded in their goal of obtaining appeasement.  Rather simple and so obvious if you examine all of the negotiations over all of these years.

These are theocrats whose religion states and encourages lying to the Infidel as a worthy religious means to an end.

They just killed 30 plus thousand of their own people on the streets like dogs, not taking into account all those arrested and executed within the prisons.

But you're okay with them and see them as the poor missundertood good guys in all of this. 

ymwv, of course.


oh you are quite right about the Iranian regime being assholes. That doesn't change the analysis. I get that Trump was probably thinking he could leverage local unrest to encourage regime change. But bombing shit out of the infrastructure of a massively large city that is already suffering from a crippling drought is not a good way to do it. Nor is partnering with the long-term enemy of the nation (Israel), nor is the history of the UK and later the US siding on the side of the oil industry helpful. Instead, Trump has given the regime a "rally-round-the-flag" moment. 
I doubt many people would like to side with the perceived invaders, even if they do hate their own regime.
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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:38pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

So sad that you blindly take the Iranians at their word.  They have done nothing but lie, cheat and stall during all of their negotiations in the past 47 years.

In all of this time, they succeeded in their goal of obtaining appeasement.  Rather simple and so obvious if you examine all of the negotiations over all of these years.

These are theocrats whose religion states and encourages lying to the Infidel as a worthy religious means to an end.

They just killed 30 plus thousand of their own people on the streets like dogs, not taking into account all those arrested and executed within the prisons.

But you're okay with them and see them as the poor missundertood good guys in all of this. 

ymwv, of course.

I see that you added thoughts after posting your link and while I was composing this.  The above only addresses your original post.  I haven't read what you added and it will have to wait until tomorrow.  I need to get to bed now as I have a 5 hour long monthly appointment with a big recliner in about 7 hours.  
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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:30pm

 kurtster wrote:
You're right but it is irrelevant.

This war, battle, excursion or whatever you want to call it has been 47 years in the making.  Every POTUS since and including Carter has been making promises at the same time they kicked the can down the road.  Trump is just making good on all the until now, empty promises made over the decades.

And as most of us know, timing is everything and push came to shove.

Personally, I see this as a now or never moment.  And unlike most of the thinking on display here, I think that Iran are the bad guys in this, not us.  They started this 47 years ago and we are finishing it, finally.  The wheel has turned one full revolution now.

Lying by omission. The US/UK started it in 1953 when you took away their democracy and installed a dictator. For oil. The Iranian people had a revolution (which Americans should be able to appreciate) in 1979, and worked hard to ensure you won't do it to them again. You started this.


NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:26pm

 kurtster wrote:

You're right but it is irrelevant.

This war, battle, excursion or whatever you want to call it has been 47 years in the making.  Every POTUS since and including Carter has been making promises at the same time they kicked the can down the road.  Trump is just making good on all the until now, empty promises made over the decades.

And as most of us know, timing is everything and push came to shove.

Personally, I see this as a now or never moment.  And unlike most of the thinking on display here, I think that Iran are the bad guys in this, not us.  They started this 47 years ago and we are finishing it, finally.  The wheel has turned one full revolution now.


Nuclear experts undercut White House claims about Iran reactor at heart of case for war


The trouble with US policy in the Middle East is that it your decision-makers are getting pushed around by a bunch of foreign actors, not just Israel but also Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, the international oil industry etc. , etc., none of whom have US national interest at heart.

Had you instead stood for fairness, female emancipation, democracy and civil rights and all the other things that people (used to) identify with the US, you could have used soft power to achieve a lot. Instead you got your hands dirty multiple times taking sides in a region where affiliations are intractable and constantly shifting.  

bombing shit out of people is not normally a good way to win friends.
kurtster

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Posted: Mar 10, 2026 - 10:24pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
I see no denial of the claim that Iran has enough material to make 11 bombs or whatever you want to call them.  Just a denial of what actually transpired at the meeting in question.  And from anonymous sources which are always so reliable ...  

They have the material, which was enriched after Trump broke the JCPOA, and offered it in exchange for a new agreement. The Iranians have the right to enrich, and work with IAEA and NPT. Unlike nuclear-armed Israel with its ~200 nuclear weapons. The Trump/Fox fear-mongering can't be helped. Every US war needs it. And there are always cheerleaders helping it spread. 1984 (irony), fooled for 40+ years now:
 
You're close to right but it is irrelevant.

This war, battle, excursion or whatever you want to call it has been 47 years in the making.  Every POTUS since and including Carter has been making promises at the same time they kicked the can down the road.  Trump is just making good on all the until now, empty promises made over the decades.

And as most of us know, timing is everything and push came to shove.

Personally, I see this as a now or never moment.  And unlike most of the thinking on display here, I think that Iran are the bad guys in this, not us.  They started this 47 years ago and we are finishing it, finally.  The wheel has turned one full revolution now.
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