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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 1:44pm

I'll get back to you in a bit, Kurt. Right now I'm reading that there are numerous phone logs (unsealed grand jury evidence) showing that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were in regular communication before Trump's marriage to Melania about Trump's massage appointments—presumably with underage women. 

There is also a court docket from a criminal case, initiated by Katie Johnson about her rape and sexual assault by Trump (and separately Epstein)  when she was 12. Johnson and her family dropped the complaint after receiving death threats. 

You can read the docket and details of the alleged rape here: 

https://cdn.factcheck.org/Uplo... 


Here is another document from the case, detailing Katie Johnson's encounters with Trump:



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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 10:59am

 kcar wrote:
And Oh yes, the border! The Dems want an open border!  EXCEPT THEY PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE BORDER BILL WITH MORE FUNDING FOR PATROLS, SURVEILLANCE, IMMIGRATION JUDGES AND A GOAL OF DRAMATICALLY REDUCING TIME TAKEN TO PROCESS ASYLUM CLAIMS. The overall aim of the bill was to reduce illegal immigration. Republicans helped craft, sponsor and pass the bill in the Senate.  TRUMP KILLED THAT BORDER BILL. SO YOU GET TO BE WRONG AGAIN.  Go back to Wheel of Fortune. 
 
It is bad law. We've been down this road too many times as to why.

You and your wet dream fantasy that Biden would actually enforce the law in the first place should it be passed.  It was he who undid all of Trump's actions on his first day in office which effectively had the border in the best shape since before Reagan.

Biden who wrongly accused the border agents of rein whipping illegals at the border.  Biden who lied when he claimed in the debate that the border Patrol endorsed him.  Myorkas who has told us the border has been secure since day one of his tenure.

Border Patrol Union denies Biden presidential endorsement: ‘We never have and never will’

And why do you ignore speaking about House Bill 2 that is by far a better immigration solution than the wimpy Senate Bill which actually allows 5000 illegal crossings per day.  How do you allow something illegal to happen without changing the laws to make the activity legal in the first place ?  Tell me how that makes sense in your Mickey D little mind.

Signed,

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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 9:37am

 kurtster wrote:

Declaring emergencies has been Biden's workaround tactic already.  The greenies urge the use of this tactic as well.

In reality this specific ruling doesn't mean what everyone here is trying to make it out to be.  What it does mean is that if a POTUS is to be prosecuted, there must be a procedure followed to decide whether or not they were acting as POTUS or on a private or personal level before bringing charges.  Municipalities have sovereign immunity which is very similar.  Remember the saying, you can't fight city hall ?

This is not a pearl clutching moment in reality when the big picture is taken into consideration.  It just codifies what already has been SOP until now.  Impeachment still exists and is the actual Constitutionally prescribed method for dealing with a POTUS.

This ruling was required only because of the democrat party's activity of trying to criminalize political behaviour which is an abuse of our system.

Their strategy is also to pass so many bad laws that they end up in the courts requiring intervention, which in turn overwhelms the justice system and essentially grinds it to a screeching halt.  Same at the border.  That system is so overloaded that illegals have in some cases court dates 10 years out from their arrival.  This is why we are supposed to have a secure border so if nothing else keep our systems in place properly functioning on the behalf of the citizens, not to mention national security. This is all deliberate to induce chaos and break the system if from overload if nothing else.  And it is working as intended.
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If your legal opinions were backed up by a respected lawyer, judge and/or law professor, they might merit a moment of consideration. 

FWIW, John Dean commented during a TV interview yesterday that Dick Nixon could have avoided any prosecution for his involvement in Watergate. 

"Their strategy is also to pass so many bad laws that they end up in the courts requiring intervention, which in turn overwhelms the justice system and essentially grinds it to a screeching halt. Same at the border. That system is so overloaded that illegals have in some cases court dates 10 years out from their arrival."

Yes, that's right. The Democratic party is trying to sabotage the judicial system so it can...what, exactly? If a Democrat-enabled law is contested in court, it will likely NOT be upheld until a decision is rendered. 

And Oh yes, the border! The Dems want an open border! 

EXCEPT THEY PASSED A COMPREHENSIVE BORDER BILL WITH MORE FUNDING FOR PATROLS, SURVEILLANCE, IMMIGRATION JUDGES AND A GOAL OF DRAMATICALLY REDUCING TIME TAKEN TO PROCESS ASYLUM CLAIMS. The overall aim of the bill was to reduce illegal immigration. Republicans helped craft, sponsor and pass the bill in the Senate. 

TRUMP KILLED THAT BORDER BILL. SO YOU GET TO BE WRONG AGAIN. 

Go back to Wheel of Fortune. 
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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 8:29am

 ColdMiser wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, with the new ruling Jill, I mean Joe O'Biden will put a hit on Trump and take him out right after the RNC makes his nomination official.  It will be done in order for O'Biden to preserve American democracy from the threat of the Great White Orange Man. Because no jury in the country will convict him now for it would be official business in the name of preserving national security from the greatest threat this country has ever faced in its history.  And to prevent Trump from doing it to O'Biden himself.  In other words, beating Trump to the punch. Hunter will be the trigger man, quickly turn himself in so that daddy will pardon him immediately for his selfless act for the country.


I think a lot of folks instantly went into fantasies like these. But if Biden had any balls, and I seriously doubt he does, he could use this new found immunity in many ways. On the environmental side he could green light every renewable energy project currently in limbo claiming National Security or something. Shut down every coal plant in the US claiming Public Health emergency. The possibilities are endless. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 
 
Declaring emergencies has been Biden's workaround tactic already.  The greenies urge the use of this tactic as well.

In reality this specific ruling doesn't mean what everyone here is trying to make it out to be.  What it does mean is that if a POTUS is to be prosecuted, there must be a procedure followed to decide whether or not they were acting as POTUS or on a private or personal level before bringing charges.  Municipalities have sovereign immunity which is very similar.  Remember the saying, you can't fight city hall ?

This is not a pearl clutching moment in reality when the big picture is taken into consideration.  It just codifies what already has been SOP until now.  Impeachment still exists and is the actual Constitutionally prescribed method for dealing with a POTUS.

This ruling was required only because of the democrat party's activity of trying to criminalize political behaviour which is an abuse of our system.

Their strategy is also to pass so many bad laws that they end up in the courts requiring intervention, which in turn overwhelms the justice system and essentially grinds it to a screeching halt.  Same at the border.  That system is so overloaded that illegals have in some cases court dates 10 years out from their arrival.  This is why we are supposed to have a secure border so if nothing else keep our systems in place properly functioning on the behalf of the citizens, not to mention national security. This is all deliberate to induce chaos and break the system if from overload if nothing else.  And it is working as intended.
.

{#Meditate}
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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 8:22am

 ColdMiser wrote:

I think a lot of folks instantly went into fantasies like these. But if Biden had any balls, and I seriously doubt he does, he could use this new found immunity in many ways. On the environmental side he could green light every renewable energy project currently in limbo claiming National Security or something. Shut down every coal plant in the US claiming Public Health emergency. The possibilities are endless. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 


And therein lies the difference. 

Democrats just won't take advantage of a situation, and hold themselves accountable in ways Republicans can't image.  Al Franken has a few foolish yet relatively harmless pictures, and the Dems eat him alive... immediately.  Trump has affairs, a side piece while Barron is in utero and a newborn, a personal relationship with Epstein, dozens of pageant contestants complaining, and well over a dozen women who claim sexual assault... and the religious party of family values blames the deep state, gold diggers, the media, and everyone but Trump.

The difference between Biden and Trump is that Trump will do the things you're talking about, and he will make sure he's getting paid for doing it.  If he wins, he is going to turn the Presidency into his ATM.  Oh...you want to drill there...national security... send $100M to Ivanka.

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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 8:09am

 rgio wrote:

Correction.... convicted felon.


Yes, my bad!
 
Wouldn't want to sell him short...
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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 8:08am

 VV wrote:

Actually, Trump would have gotten a pass on his secret documents banker's box library/stash if he handed them all over when he was repeatedly asked to do so. He's a lying, cheating, draft-dodging, pandemic fumbling, racist, ex-president with a history of sexual misconduct who mounted a failed insurrection and tried to subvert the Constitution. Oh yeah, he's also an indicted felon...  

Correction.... convicted felon.

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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 8:00am

 kurtster wrote:

Actually Biden would get a pass regardless of the SCOTUS ruling for the same reason he got a pass of his handling of top secret documents. He's a pitiful old man with a piss poor memory ...

Actually, Trump would have gotten a pass on his secret documents banker's box library/stash if he handed them all over when he was repeatedly asked to do so. He's a lying, cheating, draft-dodging, pandemic fumbling, racist, ex-president with a history of sexual misconduct who mounted a failed insurrection and tried to subvert the Constitution. Oh yeah, he's also an indicted felon...  


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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 7:58am

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, with the new ruling Jill, I mean Joe O'Biden will put a hit on Trump and take him out right after the RNC makes his nomination official.  It will be done in order for O'Biden to preserve American democracy from the threat of the Great White Orange Man.

Because no jury in the country will convict him now for it would be official business in the name of preserving national security from the greatest threat this country has ever faced in its history.  And to prevent Trump from doing it to O'Biden himself.  In other words, beating Trump to the punch.

Hunter will be the trigger man, quickly turn himself in so that daddy will pardon him immediately for his selfless act for the country.


I think a lot of folks instantly went into fantasies like these. But if Biden had any balls, and I seriously doubt he does, he could use this new found immunity in many ways. On the environmental side he could green light every renewable energy project currently in limbo claiming National Security or something. Shut down every coal plant in the US claiming Public Health emergency. The possibilities are endless. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 

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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 4:56am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


does anyone remember the good ol days when the Onion was seen as satire and we could guffaw loudly, slap our knees, spill our beers and generally feel good about the world?



so true...
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 11:41pm

 R_P wrote:

does anyone remember the good ol days when the Onion was seen as satire and we could guffaw loudly, slap our knees, spill our beers and generally feel good about the world?
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 9:45pm

Supreme Court Overturns 'Right v. Wrong'
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 8:29pm

 islander wrote:


Well, at least you now see why this line of logic is flawed and dangerous....  right? You see the obvious problem, and are not just reposting some pablum you found in your dregs. Right?




If you have to ask...
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 7:49pm

 islander wrote:

Well, at least you now see why this line of logic is flawed and dangerous....  right? You see the obvious problem, and are not just reposting some pablum you found in your dregs. Right?
 
Actually Biden would get a pass regardless of the SCOTUS ruling for the same reason he got a pass of his handling of top secret documents. He's a pitiful old man with a piss poor memory ...
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 6:38pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, with the new ruling Jill, I mean Joe O'Biden will put a hit on Trump and take him out right after the RNC makes his nomination official.  It will be done in order for O'Biden to preserve American democracy from the threat of the Great White Orange Man.

Because no jury in the country will convict him now for it would be official business in the name of preserving national security from the greatest threat this country has ever faced in its history.  And to prevent Trump from doing it to O'Biden himself.  In other words, beating Trump to the punch.

Hunter will be the trigger man, quickly turn himself in so that daddy will pardon him immediately for his selfless act for the country.



Well, at least you now see why this line of logic is flawed and dangerous....  right? You see the obvious problem, and are not just reposting some pablum you found in your dregs. Right?
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 5:33pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, with the new ruling Jill, I mean Joe O'Biden will put a hit on Trump and take him out right after the RNC makes his nomination official.  It will be done in order for O'Biden to preserve American democracy from the threat of the Great White Orange Man.

Because no jury in the country will convict him now for it would be official business in the name of preserving national security from the greatest threat this country has ever faced in its history.  And to prevent Trump from doing it to O'Biden himself.  In other words, beating Trump to the punch.

Hunter will be the trigger man, quickly turn himself in so that daddy will pardon him immediately for his selfless act for the country.



Totally justified. A man needs to defend himself and the guy convicted of 34 felonies who put his completely unqualified daughter and son-in-law as White House staff has told his followers, “I am your retribution.” That is very clearly a threatening posture from a man who repeatedly encourages his listeners to be violent, and so to ignore it would be ludicrous. The President has every right to defend himself, and not be prosecuted for doing so - as we learned today.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 4:39pm

Yeah, with the new ruling Jill, I mean Joe O'Biden will put a hit on Trump and take him out right after the RNC makes his nomination official.  It will be done in order for O'Biden to preserve American democracy from the threat of the Great White Orange Man.

Because no jury in the country will convict him now for it would be official business in the name of preserving national security from the greatest threat this country has ever faced in its history.  And to prevent Trump from doing it to O'Biden himself.  In other words, beating Trump to the punch.

Hunter will be the trigger man, quickly turn himself in so that daddy will pardon him immediately for his selfless act for the country.
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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 2:33pm

Professor McQuade praises this chart that estimates which presidential acts are immune from prosecution and which are not: 


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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 12:31pm


Barbara L. McQuade, BA ’87, JD ’91, is a professor from practice at Michigan Law. Her interests include criminal law, criminal procedure, national security, data privacy, and civil rights. From 2010 to 2017, McQuade served as the US attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan. Appointed by President Barack Obama, she was the first woman to serve in her position.

McQuade also served as vice chair of the Attorney General’s Advisory Committee and co-chaired its Terrorism and National Security Subcommittee. As US attorney, she oversaw cases involving public corruption, terrorism, corporate fraud, theft of trade secrets, civil rights, and health care fraud, among others. She also serves as a legal analyst for NBC News and MSNBC. Her work has appeared in The Washington Post, Foreign Policy, Lawfare, Just Security, Slate, and National Public Radio, and she has been quoted in The New York Times, Time, Newsweek, Politico, and other publications.

Before becoming US attorney, McQuade was an assistant US attorney in Detroit for 12 years, serving as deputy chief of the National Security Unit, where she handled cases involving terrorism financing, export violations, threats, and foreign agents. She began her career practicing law at the firm of Butzel Long in Detroit. She previously taught at the University of Detroit Mercy School of Law.



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Posted: Jul 1, 2024 - 11:25am

carte blanche
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