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Posted: May 12, 2014 - 12:33pm

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 I've posted it a couple of times before, but it's one of my favorites.  
 

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Posted: May 12, 2014 - 12:22pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
  
Create your own Spurious Correlation:

 
It's awesome that it's automated like that.  Some of my spurious correlation charts took forever to plot out.
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Posted: May 12, 2014 - 12:09pm

 
 
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Posted: Apr 24, 2014 - 4:13am

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Well that is a misleading graph, too.  It says it is plotting the percent change but the numbers do not at all match the data table.  It appears to be plotting the values as a percent change from the 1993 values ie (1993 total violent crime - 2010 total violent crime)*100/1993 total violent crime).  My initial reading of the graph and its title was that it plots the annual percent change since 1993 - what is tabulated in the table.

In any case the takeaway message for me is that the stand your ground laws had essentially no impact on violent crime and if you want to reduce crime rates then avoid recessions. 

 

Truer words.  I think gun control or lack of has very little to do with the impact on crime, just the ability of families to protect themselves when it happens.  It is all about economic opportunity.


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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 7:02pm

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The Reuters Chart if true is misleading. Here's the skinny on Florida from FDLE

Florida's Crime Rate at a Glance


 
 
 
Well that is a misleading graph, too.  It says it is plotting the percent change but the numbers do not at all match the data table.  It appears to be plotting the values as a percent change from the 1993 values ie (1993 total violent crime - 2010 total violent crime)*100/1993 total violent crime).  My initial reading of the graph and its title was that it plots the annual percent change since 1993 - what is tabulated in the table.

In any case the takeaway message for me is that the stand your ground laws had essentially no impact on violent crime and if you want to reduce crime rates then avoid recessions. 
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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 8:31am

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I think that designer was suggesting dripping blood, which was based on an earlier chart about deaths in Iraq.  The "blood" suggests the actual numbers, but since it is upside-down it cannot immediately be read correctly.

 
Well at the very least it's an innocent catastrophic fail, if the designer was trying to mimic that other chart. But where that chart is easily understood (more ink = more deaths) even if it's upside-down, the whole point of a graph is to make numbers easily understood, even without reading the actual numbers. If I'm supposed to read the x & y axis labels before the visual representation makes its way into my eyeballs, then why even have a graph? Why not say "gun deaths in Florida rose from 700 to 800 in the months after SYG laws were enacted" and leave the graph out entirely? That's the innocent version. The lying version knows that convention says to put the 0,0 points of a line graph at the lower left, and any other configuration will obfuscate the information in the numbers and leave a false impression, based on our life-long experience in reading properly-constructed graphs.
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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 7:52am

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I went through 3 blogs explaining the problems but never to the original article.  After the blogs it seems the intent was right and the article factual, but the graph didn't follow that intent.  I'd chalk that up to failed execution instead of outright lie.  Still a wonky chart though, I had to look at it several times to figure it out.

 
I think that designer was suggesting dripping blood, which was based on an earlier chart about deaths in Iraq.  The "blood" suggests the actual numbers, but since it is upside-down it cannot immediately be read correctly.
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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 7:38am

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Click on the image for an explanation.

 
I went through 3 blogs explaining the problems but never to the original article.  After the blogs it seems the intent was right and the article factual, but the graph didn't follow that intent.  I'd chalk that up to failed execution instead of outright lie.  Still a wonky chart though, I had to look at it several times to figure it out.
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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 7:35am

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What was the point of the original article?  

 
Click on the chart/image for an explanation and another within that article.


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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 7:27am

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Wow. That's not just "unconventional," it's lying.

 
What was the point of the original article?  
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Posted: Apr 23, 2014 - 6:45am

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The Reuters Chart if true is misleading. Here's the skinny on Florida from FDLE

Florida's Crime Rate at a Glance

 

Violent crime includes Murder, Forcible Sex Offenses, Robbery, and Aggravated Assault. From 1992 to 2012, Florida experienced a decrease in the number of reported Violent offenses, down 41.7 percent from 161,137 reported offenses in 1992 to 93,965 in 2012. The overall Violent crime rate has had a significant decrease of 59.0 percent from 1,200.3 offenses per 100,000 population in 1992 to 492.6 in 2012. Florida's population increased 42.1 percent during the period. 

 
Perhaps, but the Reuter's chart appears to be based on gun related homicides only, not overall violent crime.


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The Reuters Chart if true is misleading. Here's the skinny on Florida from FDLE

Florida's Crime Rate at a Glance


Violent Crime for Florida, 1992 - 2012
 
 

Violent crime includes Murder, Forcible Sex Offenses, Robbery, and Aggravated Assault. From 1992 to 2012, Florida experienced a decrease in the number of reported Violent offenses, down 41.7 percent from 161,137 reported offenses in 1992 to 93,965 in 2012. The overall Violent crime rate has had a significant decrease of 59.0 percent from 1,200.3 offenses per 100,000 population in 1992 to 492.6 in 2012. Florida's population increased 42.1 percent during the period. 
 

Violent Crime in Florida, 1992 - 2012
Click on specific year for by county details.
YearPopulationMurderForcible
Sex
Offenses
RobberyAggravated
Assault
Total
Violent
Crime
% Change
in Number
Violent
Crime Rate
per 100,000
Rate
Change
199213,424,4161,191 13,429 48,957 97,560 161,137  — 1,200.3  —
199313,608,6271,187 13,752 47,742 99,108 161,789 0.4 1,188.9 -1.0
199413,878,9051,152 13,413 45,263 98,007 157,835 -2.4 1,137.2 -4.3
199514,149,3171,03012,259 42,142 94,777 150,208 -4.8 1,061.6 -6.7
199614,411,5631,07712,942 41,643 95,688 151,350 0.8 1,050.2 -1.1
199714,712,9221,01413,224 40,703 95,860 150,801 -0.4 1,025.0 -2.4
199815,000,475966 12,702 36,130 89,875 139,673 -7.4 931.1 -9.2
199915,322,04085612,583 31,996 83,424 128,859 -7.7 841.0 -9.7
200015,982,37889012,388 31,392 83,371 128,041 -0.6 801.1 -4.7
200116,331,73986712,756 32,808 83,892 130,323 1.8 798.0 -0.4
200216,674,60890612,810 32,413 81,776 127,905 -1.9 767.1 -3.9
200317,071,50892412,756 31,512 79,044 124,236 -2.9 727.7 -5.1
200417,516,73294612,427 29,984 80,340 123,697 -0.4 706.2 -3.0
200517,918,22788112,230 30,092 82,622 125,825 1.7 702.2 -0.6
200618,349,132 1,129 11,567 34,123 82,682 129,501 2.9 705.8 0.5
200718,680,367 1,20211,214 38,112 81,253 131,781 1.8 705.5 -0.04
200818,807,219 1,16810,823 36,232 77,849 126,072 -4.3 670.3 -5.0
200918,750,483 1,017 10,227 30,881 71,290113,415 -10.0 604.9 -9.8
201018,771,7689879,88526,07464,960101,906-10.1542.9-10.2
201118,905,0489859,88025,61761,70198,183-3.7519.3-4.3
201219,074,4341,00910,14523,85658,95893,965-4.3492.6-5.1
SOURCE: Florida Statistical Analysis Center:  FDLE (1991-2012). Crime in Florida, Florida uniform crime report . Tallahassee, FL.

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