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NoEnzLefttoSplit
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Apr 23, 2011 - 10:31pm |
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Don't know if anybody else has been following it but there has been a series of excellent articles on this issue in the Guardian (both for and against). The comments are also worth reading (if you have time!!). This latest blog entry is perhaps a good place to start. Unsure about nuclear power? Five questions.
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peter_james_bond
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Mar 28, 2011 - 5:02pm |
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Japan's government has been accused of allowing an incestuous relationship to develop with power giant Tepco to the detriment of safety standards. Senior government figures have become accustomed to lucrative posts in the energy sector on retiring from public life and criticism of companies like Tepco has consequently been muted. Mitsuhiko Tanaka, a retired nuclear engineer who had worked on the Fukushima reactors, said the "nuclear village" in which public officials, academics and power company employees avoided criticising each other had created a dangerous consensus which had made the industry less accountable. Influential nuclear critic and MP, Taro Kono, went further, suggesting the power lobby's influence on the media, where it is among the country's leading advertisers, had insulated it from proper inspection. "The power industry is one of the largest spenders so media can't criticise it," he said. This all sounds very similar to the situation in Canada, especially in the province of Ontario.
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beamends
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Mar 23, 2011 - 9:14am |
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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: Most definitely. Australia is a lot denser than that.
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NoEnzLefttoSplit
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Mar 23, 2011 - 9:13am |
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beamends wrote: I think it should be noted that some of these figures, particularly for Australia, are open to debate.
Most definitely. Australia is a lot denser than that.
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beamends
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Mar 23, 2011 - 9:00am |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:Estimated world thorium resources1 (Reasonably assured and inferred resources recoverable at up to $80/kg Th) Country | Tonnes | % of total | Australia | 489,000 | 19 | USA | 400,000 | 15 | Turkey | 344,000 | 13 | India | 319,000 | 12 | Venezuela | 300,000 | 12 | Brazil | 302,000 | 12 | Norway | 132,000 | 5 | Egypt | 100,000 | 4 | Russia | 75,000 | 3 | Greenland | 54,000 | 2 | Canada | 44,000 | 2 | South Africa | 18,000 | 1 | Other countries | 33,000 | 1 | World total | 2,610,000 | | I think it should be noted that some of these figures, particularly for Australia, are open to debate.
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islander
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Mar 23, 2011 - 8:55am |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:Estimated world thorium resources1 (Reasonably assured and inferred resources recoverable at up to $80/kg Th) Country | Tonnes | % of total | Australia | 489,000 | 19 | USA | 400,000 | 15 | Turkey | 344,000 | 13 | India | 319,000 | 12 | Venezuela | 300,000 | 12 | Brazil | 302,000 | 12 | Norway | 132,000 | 5 | Egypt | 100,000 | 4 | Russia | 75,000 | 3 | Greenland | 54,000 | 2 | Canada | 44,000 | 2 | South Africa | 18,000 | 1 | Other countries | 33,000 | 1 | World total | 2,610,000 | | Great, here come the Canadians.... And heavy water breeder reactors using thorium are a fantastic energy source. Politics is the only reason we don't have them running everywhere.
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ScottFromWyoming
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Mar 23, 2011 - 8:51am |
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beamends wrote:Thorium looks like a less problematic solution, though I don't doubt it will have it's own problems. Inevitably there's only one way to find out In answer to the question : Saviour - with reservations. Estimated world thorium resources1 (Reasonably assured and inferred resources recoverable at up to $80/kg Th) Country | Tonnes | % of total | Australia | 489,000 | 19 | USA | 400,000 | 15 | Turkey | 344,000 | 13 | India | 319,000 | 12 | Venezuela | 300,000 | 12 | Brazil | 302,000 | 12 | Norway | 132,000 | 5 | Egypt | 100,000 | 4 | Russia | 75,000 | 3 | Greenland | 54,000 | 2 | Canada | 44,000 | 2 | South Africa | 18,000 | 1 | Other countries | 33,000 | 1 | World total | 2,610,000 | |
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miamizsun
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Mar 23, 2011 - 6:40am |
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bokey wrote:What's with the '70's porn music background? I keep waiting for the plumber to show up so the housewife with the huge,unshaved bush on her crotch can open the door with her negligee all askew. I almost mentioned that. It definitely scored points with me.
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bokey
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Mar 23, 2011 - 5:50am |
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miamizsun wrote:ok, i stayed up late and got up early reading and watching some info on what may be is a very viable alternative to this situation. In a word, Thorium. (It's cheap, plentiful, way more efficient and you can't make bombs/weapons with it, which is why I believe the powers that be have worked to squelch it. ) Here's some easy to understand vids from howstuffworks. comthe political angle please feel free to comment. What's with the '70's porn music background? I keep waiting for the plumber to show up so the housewife with the huge, unshaved bush on her crotch can open the door with her negligee all askew.
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beamends
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Mar 23, 2011 - 5:47am |
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miamizsun wrote: ok, i stayed up late and got up early reading and watching some info on what may be is a very viable alternative to this situation.
In a word, Thorium. (It's cheap, plentiful, way more efficient and you can't make bombs/weapons with it, which is why I believe the powers that be have worked to squelch it.
Thorium looks like a less problematic solution, though I don't doubt it will have it's own problems. Inevitably there's only one way to find out In answer to the question : Saviour - with reservations.
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miamizsun
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Mar 23, 2011 - 5:11am |
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Umberdog
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Mar 22, 2011 - 8:07pm |
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If it wasn't for all the money involved I'm pretty sure it would be illegal to threaten the public health like nuclear power has potential, not to mention what kinds of disasters it can cause. But when it comes to comfort, convenience, and money, everything else seems expendable.
I say it's a scourge.
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nuggler
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Mar 22, 2011 - 5:49pm |
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"The nuclear bomb, does that bother you? I just want you to think big, Henry, for chrissakes. The only place where you and I disagree is with regard to the bombing. You’re so goddamned concerned about civilians, and I don’t give a damn. I don’t care." ~ Nixon to Kissinger April 25, 1972
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miamizsun
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Mar 22, 2011 - 4:39pm |
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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote: If the claims are true (99.5% efficiency, use of spent fuel from water-cooled reactors, nuclear waste with a half-life of 200 years, enough fuel already there (i.e. no new mining) for a thousand or more years), then we don't need to wait for fusion... or at the least it will give us another 1000 years development time.. Sounds pretty good to me!
There are some pretty decent reviews on Blees book on Amazon as well. I don't know enough about this subject and I'd like to read his book, however my reading list is six books on my desk right now. Regards
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MrsHobieJoe
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Mar 22, 2011 - 11:28am |
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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:Georges Monbiot has really put the cat among the pigeons today with his article favoring nuclear power. Before everyone starts ditching the idea of nuclear power, take a look at this design and I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me what the drawbacks are.. (I know there must be some but the concept looks damn good to me. The danger in this is that I am neither an engineer nor a physicist so I'm not really qualified to judge) Yes, I read the article in the Guardian today. My only comment is about the title of the thread- why does it have to be "saviour or scourge?"- this isn't the X factor. It's a useful tool but not without some significant drawbacks.
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NoEnzLefttoSplit
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Mar 22, 2011 - 11:15am |
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Georges Monbiot has really put the cat among the pigeons today with his article favoring nuclear power. Before everyone starts ditching the idea of nuclear power, take a look at this design and I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me what the drawbacks are.. (I know there must be some but the concept looks damn good to me. The danger in this is that I am neither an engineer nor a physicist so I'm not really qualified to judge)
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Location: hotel in Las Vegas Gender:
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Mar 20, 2011 - 3:04pm |
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Red_Dragon
Location: Dumbf*ckistan
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Dec 8, 2009 - 10:10pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote: huge manatees all over the place?
snerk.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell Gender:
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Dec 8, 2009 - 10:09pm |
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islander wrote: one word: Balloons.
huge manatees all over the place?
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islander
Location: West coast somewhere Gender:
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Dec 8, 2009 - 9:49pm |
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NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:The other thing that excites me about some of these GenIV designs is that they can be used to produce hydrogen thermochemically in addition to the electricity they produce. I know hydrogen has major problems all of its own ( transport, storage, etc.) but at least it's clean. one word: Balloons.
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