Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Apr 2, 2019 - 3:26pm
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
sirdroseph wrote:
I am extremely emotional, touchy and huggy with my inner circle of family and friends and none of them will not know how I feel about them when I or they go. But I don't act that way to acquaintances and strangers and certainly not children acquaintances and strangers.
I'm not arguing the general premise, but politics is weird. If we elected people based on their skill set alone, this wouldn't be an issue. But a politician MUST appeal to more than a person's rational thought. "He seems like a guy I could have a beer with." They have just seconds to win a person over. Maybe we're entering a time when this touchy-feely tactic isn't going to be effective, but for certain politicians it's what got them where they are. In that light, this is less than zero as a sexual predation thing; it's more likely a political survival technique. Learned, mastered, worn out, and can be un-learned.
Yes, there is that. There also are other differences in play, some of them generational and some of them gender-based; some are just differences from individual to individual. Let me say at the outset of this comment, that I certainly am not trying to minimize inappropriate touching and certainly not anything that rises to the level of sexual assault. That said, there are differences in socialization. For example, as a young man, I realized (or at least it appeared to me) that men tended more to shake hands as a greeting than hug in social settings whereas women tended more towards hugging. Over time, that difference has decreased quite a bit . At various times, I remember being unsure whether I should be greeting a female friend or acquaintance with a hug or a handshake. It was sometimes awkward for me to figure that out at that precise moment, but not because I thought hugging would be inappropriate or offensive. I was just more oriented toward shaking hands than hugging. Another example: in my experience, it is not unusual for women in social or business settings to touch me on the arm while making a point, be it a humorous one or a more emphatic one. Nothing romantic or offensive about it, at least in my mind. Men, on the other hand, were more prone to clap someone or touch someone on the shoulder. A lot of this has changed, but some of it still exists. I am probably not explaining this very well, but maybe the general gist of what I am trying to say is apparent.
metaphorically speaking, i find it a bit suspect that an opponent waits four years and when he comes up to bat calls him out on his juicing
of course media can be edited to make his (potentially) minor snarfing problem a flashing sign
i searched and saw him snuggling with men too
it also looks like he isn't shy about professing feelings/love for the people in his circle (the guy has loved and lost a lot)
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admittedly, as i have gotten older and lost quite a few people very close to me, i have started "completing" conversations
Yeah, I thought the same thing about that NV politician. IIRC she said she would vote for Biden over Trump, though...
Joe has been a demonstratively affectionate guy for a while, though. The hugs and back rubs aren't new. I posted this pic somewhere in this forum a while back, and nothing about it was staged or Photoshopped:
Some older folks, you worry that they're going to fall and break their hip. Joe? You worry that he's going to innocently going to make a fool of himself on a regular basis.
Trump? You know he's sleazy enough to break every law if he thinks he can get away with it, and stupid enough to drag us all down with him when things go sideways.
I am extremely emotional, touchy and huggy with my inner circle of family and friends and none of them will not know how I feel about them when I or they go. But I don't act that way to acquaintances and strangers and certainly not children acquaintances and strangers.
I'm not arguing the general premise, but politics is weird. If we elected people based on their skill set alone, this wouldn't be an issue. But a politician MUST appeal to more than a person's rational thought. "He seems like a guy I could have a beer with." They have just seconds to win a person over. Maybe we're entering a time when this touchy-feely tactic isn't going to be effective, but for certain politicians it's what got them where they are. In that light, this is less than zero as a sexual predation thing; it's more likely a political survival technique. Learned, mastered, worn out, and can be un-learned.
I am extremely emotional, touchy and huggy with my inner circle of family and friends and none of them will not know how I feel about them when I or they go. But I don't act that way to acquaintances and strangers and certainly not children acquaintances and strangers.
I'm not arguing the general premise, but politics is weird. If we elected people based on their skill set alone, this wouldn't be an issue. But a politician MUST appeal to more than a person's rational thought. "He seems like a guy I could have a beer with." They have just seconds to win a person over. Maybe we're entering a time when this touchy-feely tactic isn't going to be effective, but for certain politicians it's what got them where they are. In that light, this is less than zero as a sexual predation thing; it's more likely a political survival technique. Learned, mastered, worn out, and can be un-learned.
metaphorically speaking, i find it a bit suspect that an opponent waits four years and when he comes up to bat calls him out on his juicing
of course media can be edited to make his (potentially) minor snarfing problem a flashing sign
i searched and saw him snuggling with men too
it also looks like he isn't shy about professing feelings/love for the people in his circle (the guy has loved and lost a lot)
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admittedly, as i have gotten older and lost quite a few people very close to me, i have started "completing" conversations
I am extremely emotional, touchy and huggy with my inner circle of family and friends and none of them will not know how I feel about them when I or they go. But I don't act that way to acquaintances and strangers and certainly not children acquaintances and strangers.
I will say this and it is not often I will give credit to either of the 2 parties, but it is commendable of the Democratic party that it is much more problematic to be a suspected sexual predator of some degree in the Democratic party than the Republican. On one level at least both parties are not being hypocritical in their relatively different responses to such incidents because the Republicans in general don't even pretend to be sympathetic to admitting that there is a long standing issue of rampant sexual abuse towards mostly women and children and the Democrats are and will call out their own ergo Biden is out and has no chance in the primary. You either believe the women and put aside your partisan blinders (this goes for Trump supporters as well) or you don't. Oh and to stay on topic, I would put Biden in the definite "You ain't going around my children" category at least, but there is no allegations I know of actual assault just your basic garden variety dirty old man copping feels off the girlies. I think Bush Sr. pulled a few of those too.
You don't get to majickly pretend that a sitting president's behavior before s/he became president doesn't count. So I'll see your Biden and raise you Pussy Grabber.
I'll see your Pussy Grabber and raise you a Bill Clinton and a Ted Kennedy.
You don't get to majickly pretend that a sitting president's behavior before s/he became president doesn't count. So I'll see your Biden and raise you Pussy Grabber.
Sexual assault is just fine as long as you do it as a private citizen. There are high standards (while in office) to maintain!
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
It's another term for the same thing, usually reserved for the adjectival because saying someone's "blindered" sounds weird so we might say Kurt's blinkered posting is causing trouble.
Anecdotally I took a chunk of concrete about the size and shape of a healthy slice of cheesecake packed in a snowball right between the eyes while stationed in Germany a minute ago. 17 stitches and a scar the shape of a cross to prove that at least something happened even if I am a good liar. Lol. Who needs ashes when an army story will work I always say. I've been blindered more than once and molared a bunch of times. I don't recommend it. Never blinkered though. Close. So enough about me. What are we talking about? Oh yeah, ironing...
all of the things done by Trump were as a private citizen. The things Biden has done that we are discussing were all done as either Vice President or Senator ... Does not a higher standard of conduct apply to a federally elected office holder (while in office) than a private citizen ? As touchy / feely as Trump was as a private citizen, he has in no way conducted himself improperly as POTUS. There is a reason Biden is called Uncle Joe ...
You don't get to majickly pretend that a sitting president's behavior before s/he became president doesn't count. So I'll see your Biden and raise you Pussy Grabber.
I thought that this was a discussion about personal conduct with the opposite sex different sexes genders other than your own. I hope that I worded that properly. Don't want to offend anyone.
Blinkers it is.
Are you meaning to accuse Kurt of wearing 'blinders'? I thought blinkers were red lights with magnetic bases that a tow truck operator sticks on the deck lid of his repo.
anyway probably everybody needs blinkers one way or the other if you think about it...
I'm trading my blinders for an eye patch and setting sail on the pirate ship Periphery as soon as my new peg leg is ready.
It's another term for the same thing, usually reserved for the adjectival because saying someone's "blindered" sounds weird so we might say Kurt's blinkered posting is causing trouble.
Anecdotally I took a chunk of concrete about the size and shape of a healthy slice of cheesecake packed in a snowball right between the eyes while stationed in Germany a minute ago. 17 stitches and a scar the shape of a cross to prove that at least something happened even if I am a good liar. Lol. Who needs ashes when an army story will work I always say. I've been blindered more than once and molared a bunch of times. I don't recommend it. Never blinkered though. Close. So enough about me. What are we talking about? Oh yeah, ironing...
