pyrateparadox988 wrote:

I keep waiting for that ripping guitar lick to kick in. I think it would be cool to hear the Led Zep version right after this one...

I have to admit I imagine/wish that there was a performance of him with LZ doing this track - it would be incredible I expect! And this version is just fine as it is too.

 johnhdunn3rd wrote:

You ‘heard” it - as in someone else was likely playing it on radio or album, yeah? HOW is that naive, and what the heck does that have to do with race? 

Pretty sure a majority of people (of all races) born well after this song was originally made - heard Led Zep version first - but were curious enough, or just happy to have discovered the original.

It doesn’t make you naive, but you might want to work on not blaming your race and place - for not knowing an original song. 

Just  enJOY the music. :)

 stephen.king12101 wrote:

It's an imposter 

 On_The_Beach wrote:

Not a rip off, more like a tribute. 

But where is the guitar solo?  Ha!  It’s great to hear the original version of such a fantastic cut.

 On_The_Beach wrote:

 Shipp wrote:

No no, this is the real SBW. 

Not him. Imposter..so sad.

 On_The_Beach wrote:


How dare they....the audacity of some people......LOL....ahhhhhhhhhh

 eileenomurphy wrote:


Amen! Chair dancing and head bobbin'.

Godlike!!!  ICONIC!!!

 Shipp wrote:

Ooops. 1963, actually.

Embarrassed to admit that the first version of this song that I ever heard was Led Zep. My naive white south upbringing...what can I say?!

I see why Led Zeppelin love this song so much

Stomp ya feet , clap yo hands

I believe this should be 1964, or perhaps 1963, since that’s when it was recorded, though it was released in either 1965 or 1966. Sonny Boy Williamson II’s songs were recorded for this compilation between 1957 and 1964. When I first saw “1946,” I thought that it sounded way too modern for that year, both stylistically and in terms of recording quality. Nonetheless, it’s a great song and a great recording.

 On_The_Beach wrote:
 

Too funny. Needed that. Thanx

What a pity that there is only one song from this guy in the playlist! But what about "Help me"? 

 SmackDaddy wrote:
 

Way before then. 

1946 rock. Does it get any better?

Real one! Thank you!

1946. Think about that and tell me again when rock n roll started.

Most Excellent, thanks for going back to the ROOTs

The best harmonica player back in the day...thanks RP

THIS. Is the real deal

Love this original and the hard rocking cover. I'll give this an 8 because you can actually dance to it.

Help me out here. Is this Sonny Boy W? Or this Rice fellow who impersonated him. And you're talking about music adaptation!

 On_The_Beach wrote:
 

Man, ANOTHER old blues guy ripping off Led Zeppelin?!!
This is outrageous. Jimmy and Robert should sue.

Imitation is the most sincere flattery.  Led Zeppelin never had it so good as to have this to duplicate. 

Great to hear Sonny Boy instead of Robert Plant. Goodness, plant even ripped off his shudder voice. Godlike. 

 Skydog wrote: 
There have been multiple lawsuits: Willie Dixon's publisher, Arc Music, over "Whole Lotta Love" and "Bring it on Home," both of which Dixon wrote, while recorded by Muddy Waters and SBW II respectively. The suit was settled out of court in 1985. Arc also sued on behalf of Chester "Howlin' Wolf" Burnett over "Killing Floor" ("The Lemon Song") in 1972, which was also settled.

To this day it's not known how much of a hand the band had in LZ's published songwriting credits. Some say it was the label; others that the band went along willingly. Since their label was Atlantic, it stretches credulity to think that the Erteguns, who adored the blues and blues musicians—even those not on their label, would consciously rip them off. However, LZ's publishing arm was created by their manager, Peter Grant, independent of the label, with whom Grant had negotiated a recording contract. When that expired he moved LZ to his own label, Swan Song. (Grant had previously served as an executive at Swan Records.) It would seem that the publishing, and hence song crediting, were independent of their contract with Atlantic. Since all the suits were settled out of court, I don't know if the whole story will ever be fully known. Grant died in 1995.

 Skydog wrote: 
You're just now figuring out that Led Zeppelin ripped off numerous old Blues artists? Basically half of the acts that performed at Woodstock did the same thing.

 treatment_bound wrote: 
Atlantic didn't?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Page & Plant got some splainin' to do 

btw do you know about stairway to heaven?

I've been listening to this song for about 45 YEARS, as my brother bought this sometime around the turn of the 70's.

I just never knew it was a cover by Zep 'til about 5 years ago, as Atlantic never gave SBW credit on the the damn platter!

 Giselle62 wrote:  
tkosh wrote: 
 

Sonny Boy looks on from on high, trying to understand just what the hell he's inspired...

work is officially over!

All right!'  Haven't heard  Sonny boy  In a long time

 What you both said.

the_jake wrote: 

 Relayer wrote: 
AMEN

Recorded some 20 odd years before the only version I knew of... I wonder if this was considered "scandalous " when he recorded it?

First listen gets a 9 form me!  

I had no idea SBW was the originator. Cool.

Awesome

SBW, this Man is Awesome 

Waiting to hear Page rip into the song with a monster riff.....

Great to hear this (for the first time), and this is why you have to love Radio Paradise.  Radio Paradise is part musical exploration and part musical education....lord knows we all need that education.

 Giselle62 wrote: 
Chuckle, chuckle.  "Hot flash" takes on a new meaning, eh?

 musikluvr wrote: 

It's not in RP's roster of Zep songs.  Looks like you'll just have to pull out that old beat up vinyl album and give it a go.

 MinMan wrote: 
I'd still love to hear the Zep version right about now.

 SoGiselle62 wrote: 
So...  where do you get those?

everything sounds so good to me right now, must be menopause meds.

So very good..

finely ,   some real music...........

credit where credit is due:

from AMG: "Led Zeppelin framed its own "Bring It on Home" with a typically uncredited version of the (1965) Dixon tune, right down to imitating Williamson's vocal style. The band's own "Bring It on Home" shreds a blistering Jimmy Page riff, making for a classic song from the Led Zeppelin II LP (1969), but the lack of credit for the intro and outro is shameful negligence."

 teleskialaska wrote: 

 S-curvy wrote: 
I love Zep, but seriously?  This, a cover?    

Cool!  I love the old-timey cover of a Led Zepp tune, kinda mellowed out a bit too 

Fantastic to hear the original version! I must admit I keep waiting to hear Jimmy rip into the tune however.... ;-)

Love songs with a train running!
These artist are at least getting some muchly deserved airtime... 

Another song Zeppelin ripped off

I knew Led had blues inspiration, but where else would I have heard the original inspiration for a song that I love? Thanks Bill and Rebecca, once again...

Thank you, Bill and Rebecca. Can't believe I've never heard this. Until Now.

Take that, Led Zeppelin.  Oh right....they already did!

how good can the blues get? well this is right up there.  Thanks for those great harmonica riffs

 Mugro wrote:
Not quite.  Zep covered/adapted blues songs on the first two albums (and maintained a blues sensibility in much of their subsequent work) but the were not a 'cover' band by any stretch.

 Mugro wrote: 
Never fully understood Eric Clapton's approach to this during the 60s. From what I remember, he left the Yardbirds because he thought that they were getting too pop-oriented and didn't respect the blues masters enough. The final straw IIRC was the single "For Your Love." 

Within a short period of time, however, he's in Cream, which based a lot of its music in the blues but leaned more into power rock and psychedelia. So much for purism. 

 scraig wrote: 

 On_The_Beach wrote: 
Bands like Led Zep were blues cover bands to start. Homage, ripoff? You decide.

That was an awesome selection - Thanks!

Now we talking - outstanding!

 derekd wrote: 

Little unexpected surprises like this is why I listen to RP.

 On_The_Beach wrote: 
Led Zeppelin's Led Zeppelin II was released in 1969.

Sonny Boy Williamson's His Best was released in 1946.

What do you think?

 On_The_Beach wrote: 

Who cares? Both versions are great!

 mikeatlarge wrote: 

Yea, it is an upgrade.

Solid 9!

Plant sounds more like this guy than all those Plant wannabes in the late 80's sounded like him

 mikeatlarge wrote: 

Heaven forbid that we should remove too far from the usual.

Yikes... this track destroyed the run you had going with an otherwise great set. This is a bit too far removed from the usual RP fare.

Thas some blues...mmmm, mmmmmmm goood... Baaaabee

 On_The_Beach wrote: 
SBW was a giant, played with Howling Wolf and all.

Loving this. 

 LowPhreak wrote: 
Sorry, but I double checked both the original vinyl (yeah, that old ) and my CD copy, and "Bring It On Home" is credited on both to Jimmy Page and Robert Plant. I'm hoping that you have later copies, and the author, Willie Dixon, has been properly credited.

The album from which this cut comes wasn't released in 1946. Although I don't have this album, I have the recording from Willie Dixon's Chess Box, issued by Chess in 1988. According to Chess's documentation, this song was recorded on January 11, 1963 with Williamson singing and on harp, Lafayette Leake (organ), Matt Murphy (yeah that Matt "Guitar" Murphy, guitar), Milton Rector (bass), and Al Duncan (drums).

Like Dylan today—check out "Rollin' and Tumblin'" from Modern Times—Led Zep back then would take the basic tune and add something original to it. Their middle half to "Bring It On Home" is stunningly original. I suppose the act of adding something original, whether it be the middle half or new lyrics, in their eyes absolved them of giving proper songwriting credit. It's an open issue despite the whirlwind of lawsuits around this song and others. My take is: these guys are wealthy beyond comprehension. Copyright or none, public domain notwithstanding, it's appropriate to show the originators some love.

"Like many blues artists, Dixon saw very little profit from his recordings (especially by the time younger acts started covering his material). His pay at the height of the Chess years was only $100 a week, hardly enough to support his family. In the '70s the publishing arm of Chess Records, Arc Records, sued Led Zeppelin over the group's use of "Bring It on Home" on their second album. Arc won, although Dixon saw no money from it. He ended up having to sue Arc music, in much the same way Arc had sued Zeppelin, to make things right. Later, Dixon would sue Zeppelin himself over the similarities between his "You Need Love" and Led Zeppelin's mega smash "Whole Lotta Love". Throughout the later stages of his career, Dixon was at the forefront of efforts to make record companies give artists their due (he even drew his friend Muddy Waters into the lawsuit against Arc). In 1982, he set up the Blues Heaven Foundation, for the express purpose of making sure royalties made it to musicians and their estates."

I'm seeing Willie Dixon as the composer on this.....

Wow, it's easy to see where Plant got his vocal mannerisms for this song.
Is it an "homage" or a ripoff?

 WonderLizard wrote: 

Not true. Look on the albums after the song titles. The original artists are BMI credited.

 WonderLizard wrote: 
I heard an interview of Robert Plant on Fresh Air and he sidestepped the issue of using other's songs without paying them royalties. He suggested they were public domain. I wonder why they did that? Seems like theft to me.

Most pleasant.

This was one of the many, many blues songs that LZ, er, appropriated without attribution. At least the others (Who, Stones, etc.) had the decency to acknowledge their forebears.

Wow, I forgot how much I love the blues!  I have to go dig into some vinyl when this is done.

 tanstaafl wrote:  I'm thinking of re-rating the Zep version a 9 to make room for this at the top.  LZ didn't do much to change this.

Grew up on the Zep version and maybe that's why I like their's better.