Keep in mind that white American males shot and killed countless Americans including many children, and no one ever did a thing but protect their right to do it again.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Nov 28, 2025 - 10:17am
Steely_D wrote:
Nothing new here, folks. The senile old rapist felon just venting.
Tax the rich fairly, and you don't have to wring your hands so much. And you wouldn't be such a shitty president.
âdenaturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquilityâ
It's not "totally wrong", though perhaps somewhat over-simplified. Thanksgiving celebrations took place in the United States (especially in the Northeast) long before Lincoln's proclamation, particularly in Massachusetts and Virginia, where the two first permanent colonies were established. It's origins were based on the original settlers (particularly the Pilgrims' 1621 harvest celebration), though thanksgiving celebrations have been taking place all over the world to varying degrees.
Lincoln's proclamation seemed to want to make it something broader to the whole country and more relevant to the state of the nation at that time.
Exactly.
The notion of a day of thanks is much older than Lincoln, and the mythology of the holiday has a great many who ignore and detest its existence. Lincoln's creation of a day of unity is a product of both the Civil and Dakota War of 1862.
Regardless of the roots (I have a direct line to one of the attendees, John Howland...), any political discussion regarding it is pointless. A Thursday with a big meal, lots of dessert, and football is good enough for me.
I, as a non-US citizen, do appreciate that post, not least because I have been invited to Thanksgiving dinners in many homes outside the USA, oddly-enough hosted by people who have never lived in the USA.
In a way similar to how Halloween has appeared in many places outside of the USA, so has Thanksgiving.
Perhaps these have become additional USA cultural exports through movies and such, not unlike the ideas of personal liberty and freedom.
It is great to finally know where the idea came from and what the meaning and significance of Thanksgiving actually is.
So, thanks for that.
However, I reckon that your post may well be either lost on or shredded by many of the readers here simply because it makes reference to Almighty God.
As you know better than most, there are some here who have replaced the God-shaped hole in their lives with Scientism, Marxism, Socialism, Islamism, Trannyism etc etc.
Any reference to the original idea of God; against which all their -isms compete, might be found somehow threatening.
Expect some ribald mockery and denigration.
From me, Happy Thanksgiving to all in the USA - you truly have so, so much to be thankful for, despite your unending wailing about how shit everything is because of someone else's doing.
If you feel your life is shit...look in the mirror.
You live in the greatest country that has ever existed in our civilisational history, and though it may not be perfect it is still the best thing going.
Why seek to destroy it?
Peace all....
Do you have any example of anyone here seeking to "destroy" this country?
odd rhetoric to follow with "peace", maybe a gaze in your own mirror?
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Posted:
Nov 28, 2025 - 8:43am
The senile old man who can't read doesn't know what the word "vetted" means. So he lashes out and tosses a word salad.
And no one in the room defends her. Spineless children who don't deserve to be there .
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Posted:
Nov 28, 2025 - 8:24am
Nothing new here, folks. The senile old rapist felon just venting.
Tax the rich fairly, and you don't have to wring your hands so much. And you wouldn't be such a shitty president.
The response you posted to object to the DHS post is totally wrong...
It's not "totally wrong", though perhaps somewhat over-simplified. Thanksgiving celebrations took place in what would become the United States (especially in the Northeast) long before Lincoln's proclamation, particularly in Massachusetts and Virginia, where the two first permanent colonies were established. It's origins were based on the original settlers (particularly the Pilgrims' 1621 harvest celebration), though thanksgiving celebrations have been taking place all over the world to varying degrees.
Lincoln's proclamation seemed to want to make it something broader to the whole country and more relevant to the state of the nation at that time.
The response you posted to object to the DHS post is totally wrong.
Here is Lincoln's proclamation of making Thanksgiving a national day of remembrance. It quite frankly has nothing to do with the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock or anything else inferred by the response. It is totally different and much broader. Few people know the actual origin of Thanksgiving in the US since history ain't taught in school anymore. I did link the source so no one can say that I made this up.
The year that is drawing toward its close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and
healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the
source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature
that they cannot fail to penetrate and even soften the heart which is habitually insensible to the
ever-watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to
foreign states to invite and provoke their aggressions, peace has been preserved with all nations,
order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed
everywhere, except in the theater of military conflict; while that theater has been greatly
contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.
Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national
defense have not arrested the plow, the shuttle, or the ship; the ax has enlarged the borders of our
settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even
more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste
that has been made in the camp, the siege, and the battlefield, and the country, rejoicing in the
consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with
large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised, nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They
are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who while dealing with us in anger for our sins,
hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully
acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American people. I do, therefore,
invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and
those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of
November next as a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in
the heavens. And I recommend to them that, while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him
for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national
perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows,
orphans, mourners, or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably
engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty hand to heal the wounds of the
nation, and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes, to the full
enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United Stated
States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand
eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.
Abraham Lincoln
By the President: William H. Seward. Secretary of State.
I, as a non-US citizen, do appreciate that post, not least because I have been invited to Thanksgiving dinners in many homes outside the USA, oddly-enough hosted by people who have never lived in the USA.
In a way similar to how Halloween has appeared in many places outside of the USA, so has Thanksgiving.
Perhaps these have become additional USA cultural exports through movies and such, not unlike the ideas of personal liberty and freedom.
It is great to finally know where the idea came from and what the meaning and significance of Thanksgiving actually is.
So, thanks for that.
However, I reckon that your post may well be either lost on or shredded by many of the readers here simply because it makes reference to Almighty God.
As you know better than most, there are some here who have replaced the God-shaped hole in their lives with Scientism, Marxism, Socialism, Islamism, Trannyism etc etc.
Any reference to the original idea of God; against which all their -isms compete, might be found somehow threatening.
Expect some ribald mockery and denigration.
From me, Happy Thanksgiving to all in the USA - you truly have so, so much to be thankful for, despite your unending wailing about how shit everything is because of someone else's doing.
If you feel your life is shit...look in the mirror.
You live in the greatest country that has ever existed in our civilisational history, and though it may not be perfect it is still the best thing going.
Why seek to destroy it?
The response you posted to object to the DHS post is totally wrong.
Here is Lincoln's proclamation of making Thanksgiving a national day of remembrance. It quite frankly has nothing to do with the Pilgrims, Plymouth Rock or anything else inferred by the response. It is totally different and much broader. Few people know the actual origin of Thanksgiving in the US since history ain't taught in school anymore. I did link the source so no one can say that I made this up.
The year that is drawing toward its close has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature that they cannot fail to penetrate and even soften the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever-watchful providence of Almighty God.
In the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign states to invite and provoke their aggressions, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere, except in the theater of military conflict; while that theater has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union.
Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defense have not arrested the plow, the shuttle, or the ship; the ax has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege, and the battlefield, and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised, nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently, and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American people. I do, therefore, invite my fellow-citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next as a Day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the heavens. And I recommend to them that, while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners, or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty hand to heal the wounds of the nation, and to restore it, as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes, to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United Stated States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.
Abraham Lincoln
By the President: William H. Seward. Secretary of State.
My comment was meant to show that Trump immediately jumped to blaming Biden — a political response. Then he gratuitously added comments about Somalians in Minnesota to add to anti-immigrant fervor. Yes, I am aware of allegations of fraud and that Trump announced Friday that he wanted Temporary Protected Status immediately revoked for Somalians in Minnesota. This is totally unrelated to the shootings of the National Guard members in DC by a native Afghan who had been living in Washington State. There are about 37,000 people of Somalian descent living in Minnesota and about 500 on TP status.
The bottom line is if Trump was not POTUS, this would not have happened.
There would be no National Guard in DC to be shot at if Trump was not POTUS.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Nov 27, 2025 - 8:23am
kurtster wrote:
And then what happened ?
Are you aware of the newly discovered welfare fraud regarding Somalians living in Minnesota ? No ?
Doesn't matter.
Back to it is all Trump's fault. It always is. That is all that matters.
Happy T Day.
My comment was meant to show that Trump immediately jumped to blaming Biden â a political response. Then he gratuitously added comments about Somalians in Minnesota to add to anti-immigrant fervor. Yes, I am aware of allegations of fraud and that Trump announced Friday that he wanted Temporary Protected Status immediately revoked for Somalians in Minnesota. This is totally unrelated to the shootings of the National Guard members in DC by a native Afghan who had been living in Washington State. There are about 37,000 people of Somalian descent living in Minnesota and about 500 on TP status.
In the immediate aftermath of those shootings, Trump publicly blamed Biden. And, for some reason, he also took the opportunity to assail Somalians living in Minnesota.
And then what happened ?
Are you aware of the newly discovered welfare fraud regarding Somalians living in Minnesota ? No ?
Doesn't matter.
Back to it is all Trump's fault. It always is. That is all that matters.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Nov 27, 2025 - 8:07am
kurtster wrote:
Yep. It's Trump's fault.
Case closed.
Next.
In the immediate aftermath of those shootings, Trump publicly blamed Biden. And, for some reason, he also took the opportunity to assail Somalians living in Minnesota.
