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Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 23, 2026 - 4:28am

We talking nonexistent unimportant voter fraud? 

rgio

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Posted: Jul 23, 2026 - 4:19am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
400 is not nothing. It's 0.00925514372% of the total votes though, so any businessman or statistician will tell you that the literal cost of eliminating those 400 will bankrupt New Jersey. They blame the Motor Voter bill? I didn't read it. Fix that loophole and there will be other holes. And when you consider that New Jersey might be the worst in the nation (or they wouldn't be held up as a bad example, right?), the problem is even less significant. Of course you'll come at me with an "every vote counts" argument and sure that's right but any actuary will tell you that 0.00925514372% is not worth correcting. "Worth" meaning the actual dollar cost of eliminating an error so tiny.

I was going to post something when this came out 2 days ago, but figured I'd leave it for Kurt... who never fails to fall in line with the Republican propaganda.

What's important is your commentary.  Found it last week, fired the vendor, fixed the voter registration, issue addressed.

The registrants in NJ were on the Democrat, Republican, and Independent rolls.  They were scattered across our 21 counties and 560 municipalities.  It's theoretically possible that a local election was impacted (not something that will ever be determined based on the insane complexity in voting in NJ... a long discussion for another day), but it's statistically very unlikely.

This is an example of the system working... in defense of the democracy.  
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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 9:31pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


400 is not nothing. It's 0.00925514372% of the total votes though, so any businessman or statistician will tell you that the literal cost of eliminating those 400 will bankrupt New Jersey. They blame the Motor Voter bill? I didn't read it. Fix that loophole and there will be other holes. And when you consider that New Jersey might be the worst in the nation (or they wouldn't be held up as a bad example, right?), the problem is even less significant. Of course you'll come at me with an "every vote counts" argument and sure that's right but any actuary will tell you that 0.00925514372% is not worth correcting. "Worth" meaning the actual dollar cost of eliminating an error so tiny.


The article indicates that the error was caused by a "software glitch" and not a determined effort by non-voters to game or cheat the voting system. Non-citizens, when applying for a driver's license or ID, indicated on a form that they were not citizens. The software ignored that and stated they were eligible to vote. Apparently the applications were not cross-checked to a database of the Division of Elections to verify eligibility to vote. 

The state and the Motor Vehicle Commission should have caught and addressed the error more quickly, but the error existed only for a year. 

Sorry, Kurt, not a big deal. 


https://newjerseymonitor.com/2...

About 6,600 non-citizens were registered to vote in New Jersey because of a software glitch in the state Motor Vehicle Commission’s automatic voter registration system, and about 400 of them cast ballots, Gov. Mikie Sherrill said Tuesday.

Sherrill, who said the error began in June 2023 and was not fixed until a year later, said the state has no evidence at this time that any elections were swayed. She noted that the error occurred when her predecessor, Phil Murphy, was governor. Sherrill assumed office in January.

“This entire situation is unacceptable,” Sherrill said. “It’s unacceptable that the vendor released software with such a glaring error. It’s unacceptable that the MVC took a year to get this issue fixed, and it’s unacceptable that no one, in the previous administration, brought this to light, demanded accountability.”

Sherrill said she learned about the issue just last week, is investigating the software error, and will make the probe’s findings public.

A spokesman for Murphy, like Sherrill a Democrat, did not return a request for comment.

Sherrill said the error happened when some non-citizens applied for driver’s licenses or identification cards at the Motor Vehicle Commission and were asked if they wanted to register to vote. They indicated on a form that they were non-citizens, but the software marked them as citizens eligible to vote anyway, Sherrill said.

Idemia, the state vendor identified by Sherrill on Tuesday, sent an unsigned statement defending its work with the Motor Vehicle Commission and placing blame for any voter registration mistakes with state officials.

“Idemia’s role is to transmit information through the motor vehicle system. The voter registration information is transmitted to the New Jersey Department of State, Division of Elections, which is ultimately responsible for verifying eligibility to vote. Information submitted by Idemia must still be validated and adjudicated by the Division of Elections,” the statement reads.

Sherrill said Idemia’s software would be phased out.



ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 9:13pm

 kurtster wrote:

So drivers licenses have nothing to do with illegals voting ?  The Motor Voter Law is how.


NJ governor says 6K non-citizens were registered to vote, 400 voted ...

White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson said New Jersey’s news underscores the importance of the SAVE America Act, a bill that proposes to restrict voter access by adding requirements to register and cast ballots, including photo IDs. Trump supports passage of the bill but it has yet to clear Congress.

“Democrats and their media allies have repeatedly said it is impossible for noncitizens to register to vote, let alone cast a ballot. Time and again, they have been proven wrong,” Jackson said.

The Trump administration is suing New Jersey in federal court for access to the state’s unredacted voter rolls.

New Jersey Republicans are calling for investigations and for an end to automatic voter registration at motor vehicle locations.

“To protect the sanctity of our elections, we must end automatic voter registration at every MVC immediately,” state Sen. Mike Testa (R-Cumberland) posted on social media.

The New Jersey GOP last month said it had identified hundreds of non-citizens who had been registered to vote and at least 30 cases of them illegally casting votes, citing a “key vulnerability” at the Motor Vehicle Commission. On Tuesday, the party’s chair, Christine Giordano Hanlon, texted a New Jersey Monitor reporter about Sherrill’s revelations.






400 is not nothing. It's 0.00925514372% of the total votes though, so any businessman or statistician will tell you that the literal cost of eliminating those 400 will bankrupt New Jersey. They blame the Motor Voter bill? I didn't read it. Fix that loophole and there will be other holes. And when you consider that New Jersey might be the worst in the nation (or they wouldn't be held up as a bad example, right?), the problem is even less significant. Of course you'll come at me with an "every vote counts" argument and sure that's right but any actuary will tell you that 0.00925514372% is not worth correcting. "Worth" meaning the actual dollar cost of eliminating an error so tiny.
buddy

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 9:06pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Another one bites the dust.  ðŸ™„

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 8:58pm

 Steely_D wrote:


We talking voting and illegal immigrants?
How about something more real - since no significant fraud has EVER been found - and on topic?
 
So drivers licenses have nothing to do with illegals voting ?  The Motor Voter Law is how.


NJ governor says 6K non-citizens were registered to vote, 400 voted ...

White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson said New Jersey’s news underscores the importance of the SAVE America Act, a bill that proposes to restrict voter access by adding requirements to register and cast ballots, including photo IDs. Trump supports passage of the bill but it has yet to clear Congress.

“Democrats and their media allies have repeatedly said it is impossible for noncitizens to register to vote, let alone cast a ballot. Time and again, they have been proven wrong,” Jackson said.

The Trump administration is suing New Jersey in federal court for access to the state’s unredacted voter rolls.

New Jersey Republicans are calling for investigations and for an end to automatic voter registration at motor vehicle locations.

“To protect the sanctity of our elections, we must end automatic voter registration at every MVC immediately,” state Sen. Mike Testa (R-Cumberland) posted on social media.

The New Jersey GOP last month said it had identified hundreds of non-citizens who had been registered to vote and at least 30 cases of them illegally casting votes, citing a “key vulnerability” at the Motor Vehicle Commission. On Tuesday, the party’s chair, Christine Giordano Hanlon, texted a New Jersey Monitor reporter about Sherrill’s revelations.




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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 4:22pm

Learning the ropes

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 4:22pm

This Is Why Our Fresh Produce Keeps Making Us Sick
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 4:17pm

Well, go figure...
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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 3:43pm

 kurtster wrote:

The 2019 report has been gone over ad nauseum. I read it again.  What it is regarding Trump, is hearsay originating from an unidentified source.  You want to convict on that, be my guest.

What I also have learned about Epstein is that he tried his damnedest to come up with evidence of Trump doing anything in order to get himself help with his own case with the FBI.  He failed, with all of his resources.  That says a lot.  To me anyway.

Everybody loves the J Carroll case but their are too many things wrong with that to conclude that this was nonconsensual.  Carroll is a gold digger at best. imo.

I presented the Walz pardon to see if there would be any kind of reaction by the people here who feel so strongly about child rape.  I conclude based on the reactions (lack of) that it only matters based on who the perp is.  As was expected.




Epstein had plenty of evidence on Trump. Trump was all over Epstein's appointment books for "massages." Epstein once mentioned in an email to a third person that Trump had been at Epstein's townhouse for a week with a model. 

"Katie Johnson" provided an affidavit to a court swearing that Trump had raped her. The FBI interviewed four times IIRC and found her story credible. She withdrew her legal case against Trump after she and her family received death threats. 

Interesting that you claim "their (sic) too many things wrong with" E. Jean's Carroll's case but fail to enumerate any of those things. You avoid the fact that a jury of her peers found her story credible and awarded her $5+ million in damages. Let's not forget that a second jury awarded her $80+ million in damages for Trump's defamation of her character and story. 

And Kurt, if E. Jean Carroll were just a gold digger, why didn't she sue Trump right after their encounter? 

And then, of course, there is the 20+ women who claimed that Trump assaulted and/or raped them. 

I don't know enough about "the Walz pardon" to comment. Stop playing Whatabout. 

Start owning up to the fact that Trump belongs in prison for the rest of his life. 
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 3:19pm

 Lazy8 wrote:

Assuming even a single word of this is true and presented in accurate context, how would that excuse Trump raping children?

And it's not guilt by association, it's suspicion by way of allegations documented by the FBI and redacted from the files released by DoJ. This one, for instance. 

He has also been accused of sexual assault by numerous adult women. But you knew that.

And defend him anyway.

The 2019 report has been gone over ad nauseum. I read it again.  What it is regarding Trump, is hearsay originating from an unidentified source.  You want to convict on that, be my guest.

What I also have learned about Epstein is that he tried his damnedest to come up with evidence of Trump doing anything in order to get himself help with his own case with the FBI.  He failed, with all of his resources.  That says a lot.  To me anyway.

Everybody loves the J Carroll case but their are too many things wrong with that to conclude that this was nonconsensual.  Carroll is a gold digger at best. imo.

I presented the Walz pardon to see if there would be any kind of reaction by the people here who feel so strongly about child rape.  I conclude based on the reactions (lack of) that it only matters based on who the perp is.  As was expected.


islander

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 2:47pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Scott! Tee shirts!


He's busy with Tourist astroturfing for his 'nature' series. 
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 2:12pm

 Steely_D wrote:


You're not using Kalshi?
All the cool kids, and trump teleprompter operators, are using it. The White House has no integrity now, so we might as well all be scofflaws, amirite?


Scott! Tee shirts!
Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 2:08pm

 rgio wrote:

Speak for yourself.  I pay $10/month for "patriot access" to all of his messages 5 mins before they post here.



You're not using Kalshi?
All the cool kids, and trump teleprompter operators, are using it. The White House has no integrity now, so we might as well all be scofflaws, amirite?
buddy

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 12:51pm

 kurtster wrote:
"probably raped kids." ? Guilty by accusation, right ?

You are absolutely the least self-aware person I know.

Isabeau

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 12:45pm

 rgio wrote:

Speak for yourself.  I pay $10/month for "patriot access" to all of his messages 5 mins before they post here.



rgio

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 12:43pm

 Isabeau wrote:
Too bad we can't make a killing on a Kurster predictability market...  

Speak for yourself.  I pay $10/month for "patriot access" to all of his messages 5 mins before they post here.

Isabeau

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 12:40pm

 Steely_D wrote:

We talking voting and illegal immigrants?


How about something more real - since no significant fraud has EVER been found - and on topic?

Too bad we can't make a killing on a Kurster predictability market...  
Isabeau

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Posted: Jul 22, 2026 - 12:34pm

 steeler wrote:

Yep. Shifting the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused. Requiring proving a negative. 



Guilty until proven innocent.
Lazy8

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Posted: Jul 21, 2026 - 9:30pm

 kurtster wrote:
While we are on the subject ...

So do you all approve of this ?

Tim Walz board awarded repeat child rapist pardon

primarily to keep him from being deported.

Assuming even a single word of this is true and presented in accurate context, how would that excuse Trump raping children?

And it's not guilt by association, it's suspicion by way of allegations documented by the FBI and redacted from the files released by DoJ. This one, for instance. 

He has also been accused of sexual assault by numerous adult women. But you knew that.

And defend him anyway.
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