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Posted: Jul 12, 2024 - 11:35pm

Elon Musk:
The European Commission offered 𝕏 an illegal secret deal: if we quietly censored speech without telling anyone, they would not fine us.
The other platforms accepted that deal.
𝕏 did not.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 10:38pm

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Care to explain?

See this article.

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Posted: Jul 11, 2024 - 10:35pm

Ursula Von der Leyen is the enemy of the people — and she’s proving it.
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Posted: Jul 7, 2024 - 9:59pm

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Beware of the French people, against all the media - NOT AI - ! ! !


Care to explain?
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Posted: Jul 7, 2024 - 9:57pm

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Peace needs to be made. If you don't engage in it, it won't happen.


We all agree with you (I think) ....  we need to engage with Putin so that he gets out of Ukraine. 
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Posted: Jul 7, 2024 - 9:52pm

  best news this year. Now, on to November.
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Posted: Jul 7, 2024 - 3:45pm


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Posted: Jul 7, 2024 - 2:23pm

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Having second thoughts?




Peace needs to be made. If you don't engage in it, it won't happen.
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Posted: Jul 7, 2024 - 1:51pm

Not the right, but the left...

Beware of the French people, against all the media - NOT AI - ! ! !

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Posted: Jul 6, 2024 - 9:16am

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Make Europe Great Again


Not by the growing crop of nationalist xenophobic right-wing reactionaries.

Having second thoughts?

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Posted: Jul 5, 2024 - 2:08pm

Make Europe Great Again

Not by the growing crop of nationalist xenophobic right-wing reactionaries.
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Posted: Jul 5, 2024 - 4:13am

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This bullshit is what happens when you ignore the wise advice of women folk through time.   




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Posted: Jul 5, 2024 - 12:44am

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Enzo, again you miss the points not fitting your bubble. - From the article:

Our survey confirms that the majority of people in France are eager to end the war, even without an outright Ukrainian victory. In fact, when we asked Europeans whether NATO member countries should push for a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia, “yes” answers were selected more than twice as often as “no” answers.



No, that is your bubble. The war is completely secondary to the other concerns that are fuelling the AfD / RN and other far-right groups in Europe, some of which I already mentioned below.

For most of those who want an end to the war, it is primarily because they think those funds could be better spent locally to alleviate their issues. This is the only argument with any merit IMO.  (plus see my edit at the bottom)

Finally, it is not within their remit to decide whether to end the war or not. That is solely Ukraine's decision. If I understand the Ukrainians correctly, after all the shit the Russians have thrown at them, the Ukrainians would keep fighting with pitchforks if they have to.   The only thing the French people can decide is whether to keep supporting Ukraine with weapons or not. That is their fair decision. 

Thing is, a lot of people in Europe, understand it is in OUR OWN interest to push back Russian expansionism, or would you prefer to live in GDR V.2 with the FSB watching your every word?


btw.  that quote is not actually accurate, most Europeans are still in favour of supporting Ukraine.   


https://www.europarl.europa.eu...


"Across Europe, there continues to be broad
support for the EU's response to the Russian invasion: humanitarian aid (supported by 89%
of EU citizens), welcoming refugees (84%), sanctions on Russia (72%), and financial support
for Ukraine (72%)."

and this survey of French youth:

"One of the questions specifically mentioning Ukraine was : "If France's defence required its participation in the war in Ukraine, would you be willing to join to defend your country?" Here 51% of French young men and women answered "yes" with 17% saying "definitely yes and 34% answering "probably yes"

https://www.polskieradio.pl/39....

Edit:  also note: that high number in favour of a negotiated settlement is no surprise. Who isn't in favour of that? The only thing stopping it is Russian intransigence. 

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Posted: Jul 5, 2024 - 12:10am

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The trouble is, the far right are unlikely to find any solutions to the problems either:  aging populations still wanting their pensions but not wanting the young immigrants to come in to do the work that would actually fund them,  farmers (who are heavily subsidised by the EU) wanting to leave the EU, rural citizens who want cheap fuel but ignore the impact of global warming..  the contradictions abound.

Enzo, again you miss the points not fitting your bubble. - From the article:

Our survey confirms that the majority of people in France are eager to end the war, even without an outright Ukrainian victory. In fact, when we asked Europeans whether NATO member countries should push for a negotiated settlement between Ukraine and Russia, “yes” answers were selected more than twice as often as “no” answers.

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:30pm

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French president Macron in the desperate hours
His insistence on a bold pro-Ukraine strategy turned out to be tone-deaf and now his power is on the line

That's quite a good synopsis. All across Europe a wave of disaffection is getting exploited by the far right (and fuelled to no small extent by funding and disinformation from Voldemort).  So focus is shifting back to local concerns over national or even international solutions.

The trouble is, the far right are unlikely to find any solutions to the problems either:  aging populations still wanting their pensions but not wanting the young immigrants to come in to do the work that would actually fund them,  farmers (who are heavily subsidised by the EU) wanting to leave the EU, rural citizens who want cheap fuel but ignore the impact of global warming..  the contradictions abound.



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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:14pm

French president Macron in the desperate hours
His insistence on a bold pro-Ukraine strategy turned out to be tone-deaf and now his power is on the line
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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 5:18pm

"Two cheeks of the same arse."

(...)
The Labour Party sold out 50 years ago
Millions of British voters will head to the polls today to elect a new House of Commons and government. Labour is slated to win by a landslide, though not for its own merits or those of its lacklustre leader, Keir Starmer — but simply because people are desperate to get rid of the incumbent Tory government. That said, it’s unlikely much will change: the Labour Party today is little more than a more culturally progressive (i.e., woker) version of the Conservative Party; on all major economic and foreign policy issues, the two are virtually indistinguishable: pro-war, pro-NATO, pro-Israel and neoliberal to the core. Unfortunately, the Labour Party lost its way a long time ago, well before Starmer — or even Blair — came along. The roots of Labour’s rightward shift can be traced all the way back to the crisis of the 1970s. (...)

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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 11:06am

Trump’s Plan for NATO Is Emerging
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Posted: Jul 4, 2024 - 10:48am

Millions head to polls to cast their votes in general election – live
People across the UK have begun casting votes in a general election expected to sweep Rishi Sunak’s Conservatives out of power and usher in Labour’s Keir Starmer as prime minister.
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Posted: Jul 2, 2024 - 11:53pm

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Decolonizing Russia: a Moral and Strategic Imperative

Kallas approves.

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد), was the U.S.- and British-instigated, Iranian army-led overthrow of the elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favor of strengthening the monarchical rule of the shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, on 19 August 1953, with one of the significant objectives being to protect British oil interests in Iran.

In August 2013, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. role in the coup by releasing a bulk of previously classified government documents that show it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup. According to American journalist Stephen Kinzer, the operation included false flag attacks, paid protesters, provocations, the bribing of Iranian politicians and high-ranking security and army officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda. The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government". In 2023, the CIA took credit for the coup, contradicted by previous scholarly assessment that the CIA had botched the operation.



um.. are you srsly trying to draw some equivalence between the coup in Iran in 1953 and the pending collapse of Russia due to its insistence on waging a war of aggression on its neighbours and pursuing its own CIA-type hybrid campaign against the West?   Looks like something got lost along the way there.. 
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