Come forward noble Patriot... Trump's got a pardon on your horizon.
Killing the speaker of the house and her husband at their home dressed as a cop might even be a bridge too far for Trump to pardon.... we'll see.
EDIT: NYTimes....
In a news conference, the Minnesota State Patrol asked people not to attend todayâs planned anti-Trump demonstrations across Minnesota out of an abundance of caution. State Patrol Col. Christina Bogojevic said the suspectsâ vehicle contained fliers for the âNo Kingsâ events.
Mission accomplished.
And Missouri has mobilized their national guard to 'keep the peace'... 'proactively'...
Where are all the free speech absolutists now? And the Pro 2A because it keeps tyranny in check guys?
Come forward noble Patriot... Trump's got a pardon on your horizon.
Killing the speaker of the house and her husband at their home dressed as a cop might even be a bridge too far for Trump to pardon.... we'll see.
EDIT: NYTimes....
In a news conference, the Minnesota State Patrol asked people not to attend todayâs planned anti-Trump demonstrations across Minnesota out of an abundance of caution. State Patrol Col. Christina Bogojevic said the suspectsâ vehicle contained fliers for the âNo Kingsâ events.
two Minnesota members of the Democratic Farm Labor party have been shot by someone impersonating a police officer. A manhunt is underway, but the military is deployed in LA to 'keep the peace'.
two Minnesota members of the Democratic Farm Labor party have been shot by someone impersonating a police officer. A manhunt is underway, but the military is deployed in LA to 'keep the peace'.
Expecting the shooter to be immediately hospitalized to treat the shoulder dislocations that resulted from too many vigorous pats on the back.
two Minnesota members of the Democratic Farm Labor party have been shot by someone impersonating a police officer. A manhunt is underway, but the military is deployed in LA to 'keep the peace'.
oh, there are no historical examples of how truly peaceful protests have worked?
you're not going to get much sympathy from the common person waiving foreign flags while burning the stars and stripes and cars...
Plenty of examples where it worked. Also plenty of examples where more direct and more violent revolts have worked as well.
Sympathy isn't what they want. And frankly, that's a bit arrogant to think that's what they are after. These people are looking for opportunities to live their lives and feed their families. Many are fleeing significantly worse oppression than what these gravy seals are putting forth. They want to be treated like human beings, and if they don't get that, they will look for other avenues for their grievances.
There are plenty of other examples we can find where the oppression of people and theft of their labor has led to centuries of insurrection and gorilla violence. I don't see any of those places as shining examples. I think maybe we should seek another path. What's the end game.
Part of me thinks you are correct, but people are impassioned and discipline is very hard, so it's unlikely to happen.
Another part of me thinks that while you are correct, if one side playing by the rules (being peaceful, ect.) and the other side doesn't care about the rules, there is little chance of success.
Neither option above has much positive outcome.
I'm now wondering what the end game is. What does the radical right expect to have happen at the end of all this? How long does a civil war take? How much PTO do I need to save up?
oh, there are no historical examples of how truly peaceful protests have worked?
you're not going to get much sympathy from the common person waiving foreign flags while burning the stars and stripes and cars...
Lawsuit seeks $100 million in damages after their conviction, imprisonment for roles in Capitol attack
By Khadeeja Safdar
Five members of the Proud Boys, once convicted of masterminding the Jan. 6 breach of the U.S. Capitol, are accusing the federal government and FBI employees of violating their rights in connection with their prosecutions in a new lawsuit.
Top leaders of the far-right group were either pardoned or had their sentences commuted by President Trump earlier this year. On Friday, they filed a lawsuit in a Florida federal court claiming that the FBI agents and prosecutors were motivated by personal animus against them and their beliefs. The suit seeks $100 million in punitive damages.
Representatives for the Justice Department didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.
In 2023, Enrique Tarrio, Zachary Rehl, Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs and Dominic Pezzola were convicted for their involvement in the Capitol breach. Federal prosecutors at the time said they had directed, mobilized and led the mob.
The men, except Tarrio, were present on Jan. 6 but denied being behind the attack. Jurors found them guilty and Tarrio, the group's chairman, was sentenced to 22 years in prison for seditious conspiracy.
The group of self-described "Western chauvinists" rose in prominence after violent clashes with left-wing protesters. Trump drew national attention to the Proud Boys when he referred to the group in a 2020 presidential debate. The group lost members after Jan. 6, 2021, but in the lead-up to Trump's 2024 election win, members have again coalesced.
The lawsuit claims prosecutors used a new legal theory to hold them accountable for the actions of the crowd on Jan. 6. The suit says that the government lacked probable cause to raid their homes after they turned themselves in and that FBI employees reviewed communications protected by attorney-client privilege. They said a confidential FBI informant was spying on their legal teams.
The issue of the informant was raised by defense lawyers during the trial. Prosecutors said the FBI's informant was never asked about the trial defense. The trial judge allowed the case to continue, saying there was no evidence of wrongdoing by the government.
The new lawsuit also claims the government used a document titled "1776 Returns" that the suit says was planted in Tarrio's email inbox and provided a basis for its argument on seditious conspiracy. The lawsuit says the government knew Tarrio didn't compose, read or share the document.
The suit also highlights their prison conditions during their prosecutions. They say they were subjected to prolonged pretrial detention without bond and held in solitary confinement without cause.
In an interview, Tarrio said the legal environment has changed since Trump's re-election. He said he attempted to pursue legal action against social-media companies and banks for allegedly deplatforming members of the group for their political beliefs before his prison sentence, but attorneys weren't willing to take up the cause because of reputational risks.
For this lawsuit, Tarrio said he had no trouble. "We were able to shop," he said, adding that he spoke to more than a dozen law firms. "I believe attorneys are going to do backflips trying to get J6ers on board with a lot of lawsuits."
The plaintiffs are being represented by Thomas F. Ranieri, who has a small law firm in Virginia, and Augustus Invictus, a far-right political activist and attorney in Florida.
Earlier this year, the U.S. Justice Department reached an agreement to settle a wrongful death case brought by the family of Ashli Babbitt, a Trump supporter who was fatally shot by police inside the Capitol during the breach. The Justice Department had opposed the lawsuit and defended police conduct last year but changed course after Trump returned to the White House.
Folks need to bring bottled water, gum, bagged unopened snacks, pillows, blankets, and just leave them there and WALK THE FUCK AWAY. Go do something else instead of give them a reason to fight. Protest in a different way at a later time, and not so predictably.
Part of me thinks you are correct, but people are impassioned and discipline is very hard, so it's unlikely to happen.
Another part of me thinks that while you are correct, if one side playing by the rules (being peaceful, ect.) and the other side doesn't care about the rules, there is little chance of success.
Neither option above has much positive outcome.
I'm now wondering what the end game is. What does the radical right expect to have happen at the end of all this? How long does a civil war take? How much PTO do I need to save up?
Yes, there have been thousands of protests and marches in this country since Mango Mussolini took office; peaceful ones. This is escalation on the fascist's part to find an excuse for even more escalation and eventually marshal law.
Folks need to bring bottled water, gum, bagged unopened snacks, pillows, blankets, and just leave them there and WALK THE FUCK AWAY. Go do something else instead of give them a reason to fight. Protest in a different way at a later time, and not so predictably.
Video footage shows one woman and two shirtless men singing âFleisch ist Fleischâ (âMeat is meatâ) â apparently spoofing Austrian band Opusâ 1984 pop song âLive is Lifeâ â with scythes and dancing with the dead chickens on a stage in front of Paderborn Cathedralâs altar.
I always imagine the workshopping that precedes things like this.
âHey, how about if we use chickens? Wouldnât that be cool?â
âHans - wait - put them in diapers!â
âOh, thatâs even better. People are gonna love our message.â
Trump WANTS violence so he can declare Martial Law. He's deliberately exacerbating this situation. Someone will get killed or die and the poor Guard, ICE agent or Marine that does it will be raked over the coals â not Trump. I can't believe those in secret ops, former spycraft, military expertise and skill haven't gathered together to take him out yet.
The First Felon is salivating at starting a war between Americans. Next he'll call in the favor for the Jan 6 bros he pardoned.
And I thought the overriding goal of this administrationâs Department of Defense was to eliminate distractions so our soldiers could focus upon being warriors.
