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GeneP59

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 4:24pm

WTF!
This is the Obituary Page have some respect.

Start another page to rant like a whack-a-loon.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 3:53pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Please, for goodness' sake, don't engage. 


That's how America became great. Blind obedience. Obey. 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 11:12am

 Animal-Farm wrote:


Messaging. Coordinated messaging. Public health. Lock step.


Just as one example, Bill Gates has given billions of dollars. Any recipient would surely go along with the messages of the day. They certainly would not rain on the parade and end their career by publicly objecting to anything. 
He's given 300+ million dollars to public radio.
your local yoga studio gives nothing
So local public radio stations and the NPR are cheerleading anything and everything that induces fear and helps the public health vaccination drive. Boosters, testing, cases, deaths, all packaged up to get you vaccinated!! Let's help the herd reach it's goals.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:54am

 steeler wrote:

Who are “they?”



Messaging. Coordinated messaging. Public health. Lock step.
steeler

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:03am

 Animal-Farm wrote:

Right from the beginning one of the notable aspects of this pandemic was a huge desire to increase everybody's isolation many people have been de-platformed off of Facebook many people lost good community culture jobs you know going into an office and having a routine that's all gone so they wanted everybody isolated and alone. The masks is another big part of that.


Who are “they?”

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 9:48am

 rgio wrote:
It's a real problem, but who's got time to address it when everyone is so damn depressed and alone?

Right from the beginning one of the notable aspects of this pandemic was a huge desire to increase everybody's isolation many people have been de-platformed off of Facebook many people lost good community culture jobs you know going into an office and having a routine that's all gone so they wanted everybody isolated and alone. The masks is another big part of that.

rgio

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 9:21am

 westslope wrote:
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North American health outcomes are atrociously bad and ideally that should be addressed though to date there has been virtually no discussion of this despite SARS CoV2 being a respiratory disease.    Not so long ago, Case and Deaton published evidence that white American males were facing lower life expectancies.  Turns out that whether one has a 4-year university degree or not was a significant factor.   Very few are paying attention to this.

Life expectancy falling for adults without a bachelor’s degree

Agreed. There is a LOT there.  Stress, diet, occupation, and a ton of other things all contribute.  It was easy to increase life expectancy 40 years ago...cut out smoking and let the improved healthcare system keep you going.   Now, the baseline is higher, and the unintended consequences of eating out, portion size, stress, and God knows what else are starting to impact life expectancy.  A college degree is loosely associated with income, and it's hard to eat avocado and quinoa on the cheap.  

It's a real problem, but who's got time to address it when everyone is so damn depressed and alone?
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 9:20am

 westslope wrote:

It is weird.  Vaccines have been a significant contributor to longer life spans in the 20th century.    Yours truly would have died several times over if not for vaccines.  

The SARS Cov2 vaccines have reduced risk of infection and in particular the risk of morbidity and death.  The numbers are rather clear.

The messaging does appear to mostly originate from right-leaning media but I think the underlying driver is socio-economic.  I have yet to stumble across an anti-vaxxer who understand R factors and other mathematical aspects of the pandemic.  Many smoke tobacco, the world's most deadly, destructive recreational drug.  Tobacco usage is highly correlated with socio-economic status.  

More partisan polarization will not advance debates on these subjects in North America.  Dehumanization and demonization of anti-vaxxers are unlikely to advance the cause much.   

North American health outcomes are atrociously bad and ideally that should be addressed though to date there has been virtually no discussion of this despite SARS CoV2 being a respiratory disease.    Not so long ago, Case and Deaton published evidence that white American males were facing lower life expectancies.  Turns out that whether one has a 4-year university degree or not was a significant factor.   Very few are paying attention to this.

Life expectancy falling for adults without a bachelor’s degree





I suppose the laptop class ensconced in their warm homes are safe whole meanwhile service workers are out there getting chewed up. With everything delivered nowadays it's pretty easy to live like the queen of England until age 100 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 9:17am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


The internet is a series of tubes, and they're filled with liquid. 

This is why the amount of dipshittery around here remains constant.



It's honest work lol
westslope

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 8:51am

 rgio wrote:

That's true.  COVID is not preventable, but the impacts of being infected are largely preventable. 

Unvaccinated, often healthy people are dying of Omicron when they don't have to.  The vast majority of those deaths were preventable.

The misinformation on COVID has been primarily that the vaccines are dangerous or ineffective.  That messaging has been coming from Right-leaning media.




It is weird.  Vaccines have been a significant contributor to longer life spans in the 20th century.    Yours truly would have died several times over if not for vaccines.  

The SARS Cov2 vaccines have reduced risk of infection and in particular the risk of morbidity and death.  The numbers are rather clear.

The messaging does appear to mostly originate from right-leaning media but I think the underlying driver is socio-economic.  I have yet to stumble across an anti-vaxxer who understand R factors and other mathematical aspects of the pandemic.  Many smoke tobacco, the world's most deadly, destructive recreational drug.  Tobacco usage is highly correlated with socio-economic status.  

More partisan polarization will not advance debates on these subjects in North America.  Dehumanization and demonization of anti-vaxxers are unlikely to advance the cause much.   

North American health outcomes are atrociously bad and ideally that should be addressed though to date there has been virtually no discussion of this despite SARS CoV2 being a respiratory disease.    Not so long ago, Case and Deaton published evidence that white American males were facing lower life expectancies.  Turns out that whether one has a 4-year university degree or not was a significant factor.   Very few are paying attention to this.

Life expectancy falling for adults without a bachelor’s degree



ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 8:30am

 Animal-Farm wrote:


The flu is a coronavirus (variety of circulating coronavirus)

Covid is a coronavirus

By becoming endemic covid will join the other circulating coronavirus and will be part of what we call flu.

note that flu and covid are different than other non-coronavirus such as measles, chicken pox, polio. 




The internet is a series of tubes, and they're filled with liquid. 

This is why the amount of dipshittery around here remains constant.

ptooey

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:35am

 Animal-Farm wrote:


The flu is a coronavirus


Orthomyxoviridae



Coronaviridae
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:27am

 rgio wrote:


The notion that the flu and COVID are even remotely similar in death rates is wrong.  COVID is not the flu.




The flu is a coronavirus (variety of circulating coronavirus)

Covid is a coronavirus

By becoming endemic covid will join the other circulating coronavirus and will be part of what we call flu.

note that flu and covid are different than other non-coronavirus such as measles, chicken pox, polio. 


KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 6:52am

 rgio wrote:


The notion that the flu and COVID are even remotely similar in death rates is wrong.  COVID is not the flu.


People die from all kinds of things.
Unfortunately, Covid is just another way to die.
Is it preventable. Just like the flu/ car deaths... maybe.
I wear seat belts. Drive a truck that doesn't have air bags.
I never got a flu shot.
I rolls the dice I guess.



rgio

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 6:47am

 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

I agree with this comment.

How about deaths from cars?




The notion that the flu and COVID are even remotely similar in death rates is wrong.  COVID is not the flu.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 6:46am

 Proclivities wrote:

"Original" is kind of a stretch, there was an abundance of misinformation long before then.

Since Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden.

KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 6:37am

 Animal-Farm wrote:

You are saying 1600 people died from covid yesterday

How many died from the flu?

Compare that to how many died of the flu in an average year.

Are you sure the flu has not just been re-labeled as covid?


I agree with this comment.

How about deaths from cars?


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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 6:36am

 Steely_D wrote:

Better: the death rates are falling. Those of us who survived are cautiously optimistic. 
Sadly, we lost more than 1600 Americans just yesterday. And yet we commemorate the attack on the WTC as something horrific when we lose so many more Americans through a preventable disease each week. It's reprehensible that folks are so resistant to helping their fellow citizens with some simple measures. Particularly when they make this political. That's just infantile.

Check the data.








I wasn't making it political. If that's what you were referring to.
I wore a mask where it was required. I'd complain, but I was compliant. I did not drive around in my car with one on though. When it's over 100 outside... they are miserable.
My wife's a teacher of head start. She is required to wear a mask and face shield. She also caught a very nasty cold at the end of the school year 2021. An sinus/ ear infection, pink eye, etc.
She then tested positive for Covid soon after the start of this school year. It passed without an issue... another bad cold basically.
I got a bad cause of bronchitis for around three weeks. It went away after getting a Z Pack from the doctor.
This morning she woke up with a sore throat.  Still wearing a mask and face shield at school. 
From what I witnessed ... mask are somewhat useless.
We both have been vaccinated because we thought it best. Not because we were forced to. Well, my wife was told by her district she should get it. And she still got Covid. 



rgio

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 6:27am

 kurtster wrote:

Fair enough on that.  Does not change what Biden said though, over and over again.

So which is more dangerous... Someone telling you to get vaccinated and improving your chance of survival 20X, or someone running around saying:

“People are refusing to take the Vaccine because they don’t trust his Administration, they don’t trust the Election results, and they certainly don’t trust the Fake News, which is refusing to tell the Truth.”

DJT - July 2021

Kurt, if you wear a seatbelt, you won't die in a car accident.  That of course is something no one can guarantee, but statistically, you're odds are greatly improved.   You're arguing that the guy who promised you'd be safe is somehow misleading people while supporting the guy who suggests that seatbelts don't work? C'mon Kurt...you're better than that.
kurtster

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 5:46am

 Proclivities wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

The original misinformation came from Biden himself who many times said that in no uncertain terms, the vaccines will prevent those who take it from getting Covid.  There are many soundclips available to back this up.

"Original" is kind of a stretch, there was an abundance of misinformation long before then.
 
Fair enough on that.  Does not change what Biden said though, over and over again.
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