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rgio

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Posted: Nov 13, 2022 - 9:13am

 thisbody wrote:


Keep going, Kurt. It is not THAT difficult, really. Here're some hints on How-To-Do-IT...
The configuration of your virtual machine in VirtualBox would be the same on any other host-system, be it Win11, MacOS, or Linux.

The virtual system's performance largely depends on the amount of RAM and CPU power, which you are able to assign to the machine, as VirtualBox is always running on top of your host-system. As Windows is always quite resource-hungry on CPU, RAM, and graphics power, it usually needs a strong hardware-setup for the Windows-host to run a VM in a productive environment, which seems to be your intention.

Parallells only runs on Macs, and afaik it does not run on-top of the host-system, but needs a reboot to decide, which system to start (MacOS or Windows). A different story... although I have never used Parallells Desktop so far, and I may be wrong there.



Parallels runs alongside OS...literally shares the desktop... you can save in OS native apps (say MS office) and open immediately in the Windows version.  It's cool...but...

You're right, it requires Mac as one of the systems...so VirtualBox is the choice for Kurt.

My guess...it'll take a while to get it set up...but once it runs it'll be surprisingly easy and fast for him.

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Posted: Nov 13, 2022 - 8:52am

 kurtster wrote:

It gives me a little bit of hope going forward.  I tried the virtual XP with Win 7 and it was very disappointing.  I saw Parallel and it actually has the entire alternate operating system in place and functional.  I will read up and explore the the Virtual Box going forward because standalone XP is motherboard dependent.  I recently found a rebuilt motherboard for around $200, but ...  I have an unused XP OS to install on my Win 11 box if need be if the Virtual Box works.


Keep going, Kurt. It is not THAT difficult, really. Here're some hints on How-To-Do-IT...
The configuration of your virtual machine in VirtualBox would be the same on any other host-system, be it Win11, MacOS, or Linux.

The virtual system's performance largely depends on the amount of RAM and CPU power, which you are able to assign to the machine, as VirtualBox is always running on top of your host-system. As Windows is always quite resource-hungry on CPU, RAM, and graphics power, it usually needs a strong hardware-setup for the Windows-host to run a VM in a productive environment, which seems to be your intention.

Also, sound-issues (crackling) are commonplace in VirtualBox, if listening directly from a VBox guest-session instead of listening from the host-system.

Parallels only runs on Macs, and afaik it does not run on-top of the host-system, but needs a reboot to decide, which system to start (MacOS or Windows). A different story... although I have never used Parallels-Desktop so far, and I may be wrong there.


EDIT:
Yes, I'm wrong. 
The same things apply to Parallels (running on top of the host-system), needing as much CPU, RAM and GPU-RAM as possible...

Caveat:
VirtualBox is free.
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Posted: Nov 12, 2022 - 9:44am

 rgio wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

This looks really interesting.  I could put XP on my Win 11 computer and run all of my music software on it. Anyone here ever use it ?

I had it running a few years ago, but it took me some time to configure it.   It's a lot faster and lighter than parallels.  I say that appreciating you aren't looking to do anything on a Mac, but I would think if you can get it running, it would work well. I upgraded from a 2010 MBP to a 2016 MBP 3 years ago and never migrated.  Edit - just looked, and they are up to VirtualBox 7.  I think I used 4.  I may give it a go if I need a VM again.
 
It gives me a little bit of hope going forward.  I tried the virtual XP with Win 7 and it was very disappointing.  I saw Parallel and it actually has the entire alternate operating system in place and functional.  I will read up and explore the the Virtual Box going forward because standalone XP is motherboard dependent.  I recently found a rebuilt motherboard for around $200, but ...  I have an unused XP OS to install on my Win 11 box if need be if the Virtual Box works.
rgio

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Posted: Nov 12, 2022 - 4:38am

 kurtster wrote:

This looks really interesting.  I could put XP on my Win 11 computer and run all of my music software on it.

Anyone here ever use it ?

I had it running a few years ago, but it took me some time to configure it.   It's a lot faster and lighter than parallels.  I say that appreciating you aren't looking to do anything on a Mac, but I would think if you can get it running, it would work well.

I upgraded from a 2010 MBP to a 2016 MBP 3 years ago and never migrated. 

Edit - just looked, and they are up to VirtualBox 7.  I think I used 4.  I may give it a go if I need a VM again.

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 10:14pm

 rgio wrote:

or for the more adventurous VirtualBox?
 
This looks really interesting.  I could put XP on my Win 11 computer and run all of my music software on it.

Anyone here ever use it ?
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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 6:48pm

 miamizsun wrote:

yes, i have installed ubuntu and mint on several old machines to breathe some life back into them
not to mention wipe the drive
the challenge i have is compliance for my professional life
i have to install certain software on any machine that i use for accessing anything work related
practically all of it is MS Windows based
some progress is being  and i could use Mac OS ofr all of my programs save one
and it is an important program in my niche

options would be to install my niche program on a windows laptop and use it for that only


Thanks!   

Allow me to sneak in a question then.

If budget and time was no obstacle and security was not a concern, which operating system family would you chose for music?    Ubuntu, Mac OS, MS Windoze?   


rgio

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 11:32am

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jeez i just glanced at the ram reqs

Be careful on the RAM settings.  I think the published numbers in the comparison (ie 8 vs. 32 or 64) are the Maximum allocation, not the requirement.  You can set the RAM allocation inside the app, to use more or less of your available memory. 

If you're talking about migrating to a new machine, I'd recommend getting at least 16GB of RAM (or more).  Quick rule I've followed is buying as much RAM as you can...you never get upset having it (just maybe paying for it).   I run parallels on a 2016 MBP with 16GB of RAM...and it works fine.  I think I have 4GB allocated to the VM when it's running.

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
Oh, sorry, didn't scroll down enough.

I'm pretty sure you were typing your response as I was...I honestly doubt it was there when you started (i think your post was 3 mins after mine).

First the exact same picks last week...now this.  
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 9:27am

 miamizsun wrote:


jeez i just glanced at the ram reqs


Oh, don't look, just get out your wallet. 
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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:49am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


I've been using it for years. Just make sure you max your RAM as you are basically running two systems at the same time.


jeez i just glanced at the ram reqs
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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:36am

 miamizsun wrote:

wow 
possible game changer
will look into that
thx



I've been using it for years. Just make sure you max your RAM as you are basically running two systems at the same time.
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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:35am

 rgio wrote:

Jinx!



Oh, sorry, didn't scroll down enough.
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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:23am

 rgio wrote:

Have you considered Parallels.... or for the more adventurous VirtualBox?

You can run all of your windows stuff on the Mac...in parallel (thus the name). 

Parallels works really well...but it's a bit of a hard drive hog... it uses a lot of storage, as you have full windows inside.

wow 
possible game changer
will look into that
thx

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:19am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


The only part of this I would be able to contribute to is the CD ripping. No Apple devices have CD burners anymore, but a SuperDrive is $79. iTunes (now "Music") will rip the CDs just fine and once you do, you can upload the CD info to CDDB and when someone inserts your burnt CD into their machine, it will "know" what the songs are. Sweet deal.



that's a beautiful drive
i love the small form factor equipment!
use the hp mini workstation now at the office
good processor and smaller ssd
however, it is getting a little long in the tooth
the powers that be with work are suggesting i upgrade from windows 10 pro to 11 pro
processor is shade below the required to do that
so there's that

really like the apple design and efficiency
feel like our work eco system is on the edge of accommodating mac ios all the way around
which is practically true except for the one niche program our office uses for gov't employees









rgio

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:07am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Don't know anything about the ripping issue, but you do know you can run Parallels on MacOS right.. works a charm,

Jinx!

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:06am

 miamizsun wrote:

other half has been mac os for a decade
i'm truly in awe of the m1 chip efficiency on the mac mini
bench testing confirms that it literally crushes the competition 
m2 is here and m3 chips are in the works

microsoft has been working on similar chip architecture, volterra
it may take a couple of years to catch up tho


 




Don't know anything about the ripping issue, but you do know you can run Parallels on MacOS right.. works a charm, just like another window open and you can drag and drop between the Windows environment and the MacOS environment. So you can run all your Windows-based software on the Mac. I normally open all my email in MacOS but use Outlook for client-related encrypted mails and it works fine. 

I'm toying up with upgrading to the M2 chip where the emulation is burdened (naturally) by the need to emulate the old architecture, but apparently performance in Parallels is still on a par with a fairly standard Windows machine. 

rgio

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 8:02am

 miamizsun wrote:

yes, i have installed ubuntu and mint on several old machines to breathe some life back into them
not to mention wipe the drive
the challenge i have is compliance for my professional life
i have to install certain software on any machine that i use for accessing anything work related
practically all of it is MS Windows based
some progress is being  and i could use Mac OS ofr all of my programs save one
and it is an important program in my niche

options would be to install my niche program on a windows laptop and use it for that only


Have you considered Parallels.... or for the more adventurous VirtualBox?

You can run all of your windows stuff on the Mac...in parallel (thus the name). 

Parallels works really well...but it's a bit of a hard drive hog... it uses a lot of storage, as you have full windows inside.
miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 11, 2022 - 7:56am

 westslope wrote:

miamizsun,  Did you consider moving to a Linux or other Unix-based operating system?   


yes, i have installed ubuntu and mint on several old machines to breathe some life back into them
not to mention wipe the drive
the challenge i have is compliance for my professional life
i have to install certain software on any machine that i use for accessing anything work related
practically all of it is MS Windows based
some progress is being  and i could use Mac OS ofr all of my programs save one
and it is an important program in my niche

options would be to install my niche program on a windows laptop and use it for that only

westslope

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Posted: Nov 10, 2022 - 9:40am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Always the #1 least-helpful comment, always offered whenever someone asks something Apple-related. Please stop. 


Customer: "I'm going to buy this car. Will the glovebox hold my gloves"
Helpful friend: "You should really to to Detroit and scavenge the parts from dumpsters. I did that and now I'm legendary hitmaker, Johnny Cash."



LOL!   It was a question, not a comment.  

But if you are comparing Linux and other UNIX-based operating systems to dumpster diving, that is an interesting comment.

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Posted: Nov 10, 2022 - 9:32am

Miamizsun, I googled "is there an iOS app for ripping CDs" and got a buncha hits.

This 2019 Macworld article was the first result:

Best alternatives to iTunes for ripping CDs to MP3

https://www.macworld.com/artic...

I'm pretty sure that Apple Music (the new name for iTunes, I believe) can rip the audio on the CD to other audio file formats like FLAC. But if you want to look at alternatives to Apple Music, check out the Google results.

There's an app called Toast that's been on the Mac platform forever. It's now called Roxio Toast Pro. It's fully compatibles with M1 Macs and the latest MacOS. I don't know if it's turned into bloatware over the years but Toast was a big deal when ripping CDs was what all the cool kids were doing. These days the cool kids would stare in confusion or snicker at you if you mentioned CDs.

https://www.roxio.com/en/produ...

There's a series called Take Control Books that offers general overviews and detailed instructions on MacOS, iOS, Apple apps and 3rd party apps. I think there's one about "Apple Media" that might help you.

I've read reports that disagree with GeneP59's prediction that Apple will merge iOS and MacOS. I'm pretty sure that Apple will continue to make it easier to work with the two OSes, though.

You might find it helpful to scheduler an appointment with a "media specialist" at your nearest Apple Store. I haven't been to one in a long time but when I asked a question about Macs for a friend with vision impairment, I was introduced to an in-store specialist who focused on such issues. 

Good luck!

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Nov 10, 2022 - 8:35am

 westslope wrote:

miamizsun,  Did you consider moving to a Linux or other Unix-based operating system?   



Always the #1 least-helpful comment, always offered whenever someone asks something Apple-related. Please stop. 


Customer: "I'm going to buy this car. Will the glovebox hold my gloves"
Helpful friend: "You should really to to Detroit and scavenge the parts from dumpsters. I did that and now I'm legendary hitmaker, Johnny Cash."


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