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Posted: Dec 7, 2009 - 1:37pm

 dionysius wrote:


Thanks for the nods and links to Barney McAll and Ian Dogole and Koblas Kesecker—always good to hear new jazz being made. Never been a big Alice Coltrane fan—always found her stuff noodle-y and without the rigor and depth of her late husband's explorations—but I've always liked Pharaoh. His space jazz makes Alice C (and perhaps even Sun Ra) sound silly and pointless. (Except when Pharaoh is playing on it.)

 
You may enjoy UK saxophonist Alvin Davis, too. I don't care for his vocal tracks, but I like most of everything else he does. Let It Blow is a particularly stong album.


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Posted: Dec 7, 2009 - 1:15pm

 jagdriver wrote:

Cool! Upper & Lower Egypt is my favorite track on that album. Later in his career, Pharoah teamed up with Lonnie Liston Smith and out of that collaboration came two of my all-time favorites—Thembi and Astral Traveling.

An oldie but a goodie is Alice Coltrane's dreamy Journey In Satchidananda album (below). Pharoah plays on it, too.

Australia's Barney McAll Unit is terrific. 33 sends chills down my spine whenever I hear it (it starts about 38 seconds into the YouTube video below).

I had the opportunity to hear Ian Dogole's Hemispheres (with Oregon's Paul McCandless on woodwinds) front-row live at 142 Throckmorton Theatre in Mill Valley, CA. Orca Stroll is my favorite track, but I couldn't find a video. Here's another of their tracks, filmed at that same venue to give you a taste.

And a more recent find is the Koblas Kesecker Ensemble No Gravity album.

 

Thanks for the nods and links to Barney McAll and Ian Dogole and Koblas Kesecker—always good to hear new jazz being made. Never been a big Alice Coltrane fan—always found her stuff noodle-y and without the rigor and depth of her late husband's explorations—but I've always liked Pharaoh. His space jazz makes Alice C (and perhaps even Sun Ra) sound silly and pointless. (Except when Pharaoh is playing on it.)


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Posted: Dec 7, 2009 - 10:58am

 schtan wrote:
hello jagdriver , i downloaded ' Tauhid ' this morning and was going to take it to work and thought i had better wait till tonight so i can listen to properly with headphones ...
and i found a copy of ' Elevation ' while i was looking for a Grateful Dead cd
some good ideas there , thanks ...

 
Cool! Upper & Lower Egypt is my favorite track on that album. Later in his career, Pharoah teamed up with Lonnie Liston Smith and out of that collaboration came two of my all-time favorites—Thembi and Astral Traveling.

An oldie but a goodie is Alice Coltrane's dreamy Journey In Satchidananda album (below). Pharoah plays on it, too.



Australia's Barney McAll Unit is terrific. 33 sends chills down my spine whenever I hear it (it starts about 38 seconds into the YouTube video below).



I had the opportunity to hear Ian Dogole's Hemispheres (with Oregon's Paul McCandless on woodwinds) front-row live at 142 Throckmorton Theatre in Mill Valley, CA. Orca Stroll is my favorite track, but I couldn't find a video. Here's another of their tracks, filmed at that same venue to give you a taste.



And a more recent find is the Koblas Kesecker Ensemble No Gravity album.
schtan

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Posted: Dec 7, 2009 - 8:17am

Take Five's Top 10 Jazz Records Of 2009

this will be nice on a rainy monday morning ...{#Music}

schtan

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Posted: Nov 23, 2009 - 7:28pm

hello jagdriver , i downloaded ' Tauhid ' this morning and was going to take it to work and thought i had better wait till tonight so i can listen to properly with headphones ...
and i found a copy of ' Elevation ' while i was looking for a Grateful Dead cd
some good ideas there , thanks ...
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Posted: Nov 23, 2009 - 8:48am

 schtan wrote:
101 ways to get into jazz

book and 4 discs

on my wish list ...
 
The way I got into jazz was by just listening to it. Actually, I was about 10 or 11 (~1964) when I discovered a copy of Take Five in my brother's room and gave it a spin. I was blown away! While doing homework, or just listening to the radio before drfiting off to sleep, I'd spin the dial over to WJZZ or WDET (Detroit) just to hear what was happening. Sometimes it was a winner, othertimes not so. My ears were always open, and I'd listen for track IDs (much easier today with playlists being posted on the innertube). With whatever LP money I had, I'd frequently rifle through the record store bins and play hunches on such artists as Yusef Lateef, Rahsaan Roland Kirk, Gerry Mulligan, McCoy Tyner and the likes. Not very efficient, but there were several pleasant surprises, such as The Flowering of the Charles Lloyd Quintet.

The big breakthrough was when Miles' Bitches Brew crossed over. After that I started picking up on all of those artists who, at one time or another, were a part of Miles' ensembles: Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, John McLaughlin, Ron Carter... the list is quite lengthy. A seminal moment came when a former English teacher inadvertently introduced me to Pharoah Sanders' groundbreaking Tauhid LP back in '69.

For those wanting to know the background, look no further than Ken Burns' excellent Jazz series, which Netflix subscribers can stream to their PCs or set-top boxes. Many well-stocked municipal libraries also have a copy you can borrow for free. Speaking of municipal libraries, they often have a surprisingly-interesting CD collection; that's how I first got turned on to many artists such as Gabor Szabo and Jeremy Steig. Netflix has a lot of other great stuff for rent, too, including some intriguing Montreaux Jazz Festival presentations.

schtan

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Posted: Nov 23, 2009 - 8:32am

 dionysius wrote:

I tried "My Favorite Things" (and numerous other Coltrane tracks) long ago. All sorried. Good luck with this attempt. The "Flamenco Sketches" I love, but is also an unlikely add (though I did have some success—my very first add ever!—with "One for Daddy-O" by Miles and Cannonball). Now, the Coleman Hawkins reading of "Body and Soul" is both classic and an RP-friendly length, so if I were a betting man, I would lay even odds on Rebecca giving it the RP seal of approval.

To much jazz!
 
say yes to jazz ... the trick is divining what would fit in with the rp flow as so many have wondered ... {#Think}
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Posted: Nov 23, 2009 - 8:18am

 schtan wrote:
1john coltrane - my favorite thingsnew0/0 (0%)320
2coleman hawkins - body and soulnew0/0 (0%)320
3miles davis - flamenco sketchesreviewing0/0 (0%)320

well , we will see ...

now i know why i never uploaded ' my favorite things '
it has been rejected twice before , which stopped me before , but not this time !!!
which leads me to believe that it may be the version or a tech snafu that gets a song rejected
which means we should all re encode and try try again ... {#High-five}
 
I tried "My Favorite Things" (and numerous other Coltrane tracks) long ago. All sorried. Good luck with this attempt. The "Flamenco Sketches" I love, but is also an unlikely add (though I did have some success—my very first add ever!—with "One for Daddy-O" by Miles and Cannonball). Now, the Coleman Hawkins reading of "Body and Soul" is both classic and an RP-friendly length, so if I were a betting man, I would lay even odds on Rebecca giving it the RP seal of approval.

To much jazz!

schtan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 10:39pm

 edieraye wrote:
Wait!  You aren't allowed to have a conversation about jazz without me.  It says so in the rules.

 
ooops ... my bad , i am new here , welcome aboard the jazz cruise ship ... all are welcome {#Wave}
schtan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 10:28pm

1john coltrane - my favorite thingsnew0/0 (0%)320
2coleman hawkins - body and soulnew0/0 (0%)320
3miles davis - flamenco sketchesreviewing0/0 (0%)320

well , we will see ...

now i know why i never uploaded ' my favorite things '
it has been rejected twice before , which stopped me before , but not this time !!!
which leads me to believe that it may be the version or a tech snafu that gets a song rejected
which means we should all re encode and try try again ... {#High-five}

edieraye

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 9:47pm

 Prodigal_SOB wrote:

Well where were you?

 
Evidently I was writing the definitive guide to gift-giving.  Or at least a three-page treatise on the subject. {#Lol}
 
I see the thread started (years ago) with a comment about Patricia Barber.  I was on a huge Patricia Barber kick this summer.  Perfect for driving around after dark with the top down.  Oddly, I tried to listen to her the other day and it just wasn't the same.  I couldn't get into it at all.  But that is one of the great things about jazz, isn't it?  It is as if the music has a personality of its own.  Maybe all music has a personality, I don't know.  But much of jazz has a very definite, distinct personality.  Some of it is joyful.  Some of it is angry.  Some of it is downright sexy but if you asked me what was sexy about it I probably couldn't answer.
 
Wait, that has nothing to do with what ya'll are discussing.  Nevermind, back to the regularly scheduled programming.  I'm off to bed and maybe I'll have something to say worth reading tomorrow.  But don't count on it!

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 9:40pm

 edieraye wrote:
Wait!  You aren't allowed to have a conversation about jazz without me.  It says so in the rules.

 
Well where were you?


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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 9:36pm

 schtan wrote:

hey , there you go ... must be a short version

my older brother took me to the record store for ' my first album ' perhaps to pick jazz or classical ?

ah no , not that , i choose iron butterfly / in a gadda da vida

at least a classically trained organ player in the group
 
They probably had to get it in between commercials.  They're pros, they can handle it.  I almost always got my little brother albums for Xmas, but I certainly didn't let him pick them out.  He is eight years my junior and started high school at the onset of the disco era.  I felt sorry for him and was trying to do what I could to help out him and his poor friends some of whom didn't have older siblings.




edieraye

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 9:28pm

Wait!  You aren't allowed to have a conversation about jazz without me.  It says so in the rules.
schtan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 9:12pm

 Prodigal_SOB wrote:

Gee look what I found in just a couple of links from that.

John Coltrane - My Favorite Things - 1961

Sadly though old enough to have seen this stuff when it was on, my taste in music had not quite progressed far enough yet and don't remember any of this stuff.
 
hey , there you go ... must be a short version

my older brother took me to the record store for ' my first album ' perhaps to pick jazz or classical ?

ah no , not that , i choose iron butterfly / in a gadda da vida

at least a classically trained organ player in the group

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 7:09pm

 schtan wrote:
david sanborn on tv

i guess we have to do it ourselves
 
Gee look what I found in just a couple of links from that.

John Coltrane - My Favorite Things - 1961

Sadly though old enough to have seen this stuff when it was on, my taste in music had not quite progressed far enough yet and don't remember any of this stuff.

schtan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 6:49pm

david sanborn on tv

i guess we have to do it ourselves

schtan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 6:47pm

1958 ... the subject is jazz

b/w series on tv back in the day ...

schtan

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 10:56am

 Prodigal_SOB wrote:

It's always worth a try, you really never can tell.  I've actually gotten a seven minute Stanley Jordan cut added and played.   It was of course hated by God and Manbird alike, but that doesn't bother me.

 
{#Lol} ... ok , it is worth a try ...

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Posted: Nov 22, 2009 - 10:52am

 schtan wrote:

heh heh , around this time of year i get to thinking if rp could handle ' my favorite things ' by coltrane

' no , too long , too many . you know , notes , get it away ... '
 
It's always worth a try, you really never can tell.  I've actually gotten a seven minute Stanley Jordan cut added and played.   It was of course hated by God and Manbird alike, but that doesn't bother me.


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