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Posted: Apr 6, 2016 - 11:39am


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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 9:44am

Xenophobia, racism, exceptionalism, nationalism... what a bunch of crap.

 
meower

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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 9:27am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 rotekz wrote:
Nope. Just one way.

 

As Saint Teddy was saying this there was a huge influx of immigrants fleeing pogroms in eastern Europe and rigid social orders and poverty in western Europe. They formed enclaves where they could speak their native languages and practice familiar culture. Some of them were my ancestors.

They assimilated just fine, thank you, but the rest of the country absorbed some of their culture and language as well. Teddy was right about one thing—those immigrants became fiercely loyal to the culture that welcomed them. He was wrong about how that happened, tho. He was a patrician representative of the old order, who thought that American meant only the kind of American he was.

Saint Teddy couldn't sense the contradiction between treating people equally and expecting them to be identical. He wanted the dominant culture—at the time his culture—to be able to bully all the others. He lost that fight. My ancestors and I are grateful.

 

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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 9:15am

Softball Flipside
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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 7:56am

 rotekz wrote:
Nope. Just one way.

 

As Saint Teddy was saying this there was a huge influx of immigrants fleeing pogroms in eastern Europe and rigid social orders and poverty in western Europe. They formed enclaves where they could speak their native languages and practice familiar culture. Some of them were my ancestors.

They assimilated just fine, thank you, but the rest of the country absorbed some of their culture and language as well. Teddy was right about one thing—those immigrants became fiercely loyal to the culture that welcomed them. He was wrong about how that happened, tho. He was a patrician representative of the old order, who thought that American meant only the kind of American he was.

Saint Teddy couldn't sense the contradiction between treating people equally and expecting them to be identical. He wanted the dominant culture—at the time his culture—to be able to bully all the others. He lost that fight. My ancestors and I are grateful.
kurtster

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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 5:08am

 rotekz wrote:

Nope. Just one way.

 

 
This is the basis of my thinking on the matter here in America.  Still a valid position.
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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 4:42am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
There was a discussion going on in the End of Europe thread and it was said that the USA was doing a great job in assimilating our immigrants.

I've been thinking on that for awhile now ...

If we are doing such a great job, then why do we have to press 1 for English 10 or more times a day ?

Because assimilation works both ways.

 
yea. my mom had to learn English when she arrived here. I'm glad she was allowed to stay.
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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 2:16am

 kurtster wrote:
There was a discussion going on in the End of Europe thread and it was said that the USA was doing a great job in assimilating our immigrants.

I've been thinking on that for awhile now ...

If we are doing such a great job, then why do we have to press 1 for English 10 or more times a day ?

 
We should just thank our lucky stars that we are in North America and it is Latinos that are our main source of immigrants, I for one welcome them, their language and their culture.  We got it good compared to Europe,sorry that is just a personal preference.


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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 12:27am

 kurtster wrote:
B  This thread is the closest thing to the End of America thread there is here considering the opinion of most regarding Trump.
 
Agreed. The end if he does not get elected POTUS. 
rotekz

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Posted: Apr 5, 2016 - 12:24am

 Lazy8 wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
There was a discussion going on in the End of Europe thread and it was said that the USA was doing a great job in assimilating our immigrants.

I've been thinking on that for awhile now ...

If we are doing such a great job, then why do we have to press 1 for English 10 or more times a day ?

Because assimilation works both ways.

 
Nope. Just one way.

 
islander

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Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 9:10pm

 kurtster wrote:

A.  I did not pop into the EOE thread and see the ongoing discussion until now and, 

B  This thread is the closest thing to the End of America thread there is here considering the opinion of most regarding Trump.

C  Is is possible to discuss assimilation in Europe vs America in one thread and keep things straight ?  Evidently, so never mind, I'll express my thoughts on the matter over there.
 

 
Okay , I hadn't gone there (yet).

and C - well enough, I did think this was an odd place for the comment.  There is finally some decent content in that thread - let it run!
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Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 8:46pm

 islander wrote:

What's that got to do with Trump? Is he going to tell private businesses how to interact with their customers now?

 
A.  I did not pop into the EOE thread and see the ongoing discussion until now and, 

B  This thread is the closest thing to the End of America thread there is here considering the opinion of most regarding Trump.

C  Is is possible to discuss assimilation in Europe vs America in one thread and keep things straight ?  Evidently, so never mind, I'll express my thoughts on the matter over there.
 


islander

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Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 6:12pm

 kurtster wrote:
There was a discussion going on in the End of Europe thread and it was said that the USA was doing a great job in assimilating our immigrants.

I've been thinking on that for awhile now ...

If we are doing such a great job, then why do we have to press 1 for English 10 or more times a day ?

 
What's that got to do with Trump? Is he going to tell private businesses how to interact with their customers now?
Lazy8

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Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 5:55pm

 kurtster wrote:
There was a discussion going on in the End of Europe thread and it was said that the USA was doing a great job in assimilating our immigrants.

I've been thinking on that for awhile now ...

If we are doing such a great job, then why do we have to press 1 for English 10 or more times a day ?

Because assimilation works both ways.
kurtster

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Gender: Male


Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 5:38pm

There was a discussion going on in the End of Europe thread and it was said that the USA was doing a great job in assimilating our immigrants.

I've been thinking on that for awhile now ...

If we are doing such a great job, then why do we have to press 1 for English 10 or more times a day ?
rotekz

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Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 4:10pm

Bank Money vs State Money. 



 
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Posted: Apr 4, 2016 - 8:05am

 R_P wrote:
 
He's reminded me of Anne Elk for a while now...
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Posted: Apr 3, 2016 - 10:05pm

 R_P wrote: 
His words are too scattered and self-contradictory to meet the lowest standard for categorization as political thought. 

It's hysterical to think that the GOP establishment loathes its two leading candidates for president...and apparently the feeling is mutual.

gif of train locomotive and cars falling hundreds of feet  

Enjoy the show while it lasts, folks. The GOP at the local and state level is surviving through gerrymandering and restrictive voting laws, but as a national party it's imploding. 

Trump? Not worth your time or energy. You couldn't have such a relentlessly narcissistic, bloviating bigot in a movie or book and get away with it.  
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