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oldviolin

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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:47am

 Proclivities wrote:

That's about as bad as when someone says a book was "authored" by someone, instead of just saying it had been "written".

 
What if you were arrested for, I don't know, deceitful composure or something, and they slap the Manbirds on you. How would you feel then? Huh?
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:46am

 Proclivities wrote:

That's about as bad as when someone says a book was "authored" by someone, instead of just saying it had been "written".

 

That depends on how the phrase is coined.
Proclivities

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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:44am

 olivertwist wrote:


Another word that some people like using is "wordsmith" - as in, "we'll wordsmith that copy before it goes out." I guess it's considered a verb now.

 
That's about as bad as when someone says a book was "authored" by someone, instead of just saying it had been "written".


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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:42am

Back in the olden days, I never heard "Where do you office?"  Now it's everywhere, along with "I gifted him with a new book."  It makes me cringe.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:42am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

I have always understood/used verbiage to refer to something like body copy. Saying "text" or "body copy" could mean the same thing but also could be too specific. From a layout standpoint, if I say there will be some verbiage on this area, I don't personally care if it's a headline, caption, slogan, legal disclaimer, or the actual body copy of the piece, only that it's some frickin' words. AND it usually implies that I don't have the text yet so the person I'm talking to should understand that we're not going any further until I get some verbiage to put there. Whether or not it's verbage makes me no nevermind.

 
I guess it's essentially just a word choice.  When I did book covers in the pre-historic era of the 1980s, the editors I dealt with were usually very specific about elements like body copy and captions, so they seemed to expect the lowly designers to be just as specific.  If they used the word "verbiage" it was usually referring to some ramblings submitted by the author, which they were going to edit down.
It's still mildly annoying when I hear a co-worker say something like "...there's some verbiage about that on page 23 of the manual".


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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:41am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Oh, no, that's a capital offense.

 

A former boss of mine used the word that way. It's just one of many reasons I didn't have the utmost respect for her {#Lol}
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:39am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Oh, no, that's a capital offense.

 
right up there with comic sans?
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:38am

 olivertwist wrote:


Another word that some people like using is "wordsmith" - as in, "we'll wordsmith that copy before it goes out." I guess it's considered a verb now.

 
Oh, no, that's a capital offense.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:34am

 Proclivities wrote:
On two different occasions this week, co-workers have used the word "verbiage" to describe the "body copy" of some materials which were sent out to clients.  I had always considered the word to have a negative connotation - indicating that the author indulged in too many words or deliberately-obscure terminology.  Now, it seems, people are eager to use the term as just meaning generic, written content.  It turns out that is the secondary definition.  Oh, well.

from the O.E.D.
1. Wording of a superabundant or superfluous character, abundance of words without necessity or without much meaning; excessive wordiness.
2. Diction, wording, verbal expression.




 

Another word that some people like using is "wordsmith" - as in, "we'll wordsmith that copy before it goes out." I guess it's considered a verb now.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:31am

 Proclivities wrote:
On two different occasions this week, co-workers have used the word "verbiage" to describe the "body copy" of some materials which were sent out to clients.  I had always considered the word to have a negative connotation - indicating that the author indulged in too many words or deliberately-obscure terminology.  Now, it seems, people are eager to use the term as just meaning generic, written content.  It turns out that is the secondary definition.  Oh, well.

from the O.E.D.
1. Wording of a superabundant or superfluous character, abundance of words without necessity or without much meaning; excessive wordiness.
2. Diction, wording, verbal expression.




 
I have always understood/used verbiage to refer to something like body copy. Saying "text" or "body copy" could mean the same thing but also could be too specific. From a layout standpoint, if I say there will be some verbiage on this area, I don't personally care if it's a headline, caption, slogan, legal disclaimer, or the actual body copy of the piece, only that it's some frickin' words. AND it usually implies that I don't have the text yet so the person I'm talking to should understand that we're not going any further until I get some verbiage to put there. Whether or not it's verbage makes me no nevermind.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:25am

 oldviolin wrote:

what, no kiss?{#Grumpy}

 
kiss alive
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:21am

 Proclivities wrote:
On two different occasions this week, co-workers have used the word "verbiage" to describe the "body copy" of some materials which were sent out to clients.  I had always considered the word to have a negative connotation - indicating that the author indulged in too many words or deliberately-obscure terminology.  Now, it seems, people are eager to use the term as just meaning generic, written content.  Apparently, that is the secondary definition.  Oh, well.

from the O.E.D.
1. Wording of a superabundant or superfluous character, abundance of words without necessity or without much meaning; excessive wordiness.
2. Diction, wording, verbal expression.




 
what, no kiss?{#Grumpy}
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 - 7:11am

On two different occasions this week, co-workers have used the word "verbiage" to describe the "body copy" of some materials which were sent out to clients.  I had always considered the word to have a negative connotation - indicating that the author indulged in too many words or deliberately-obscure terminology.  Now, it seems, people are eager to use the term as just meaning generic, written content.  It turns out that is the secondary definition.  Oh, well.

from the O.E.D.
1. Wording of a superabundant or superfluous character, abundance of words without necessity or without much meaning; excessive wordiness.
2. Diction, wording, verbal expression.





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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 - 9:13am

The word passion has changed meaning.

Now it is used to refer to strong emotion, such as anger or sexual desire.  It's original meaning in English was physical suffering (from the Latin "passio", "suffering").

It is still also used to refer to the suffering of Jesus Christ.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 - 8:17am

 Zep wrote:
And Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint in North by Northwest.
 
It was on TCM recently. Archie had some great lines:

" I've got a job, a secretary, a mother, two ex-wives and several bartenders that depend upon me, and I don't intend to disappoint them all by getting myself "slightly" killed."

"No. No, Mother, I have not been drinking. No. No. These two men, they poured a whole bottle of bourbon into me. No, they didn't give me a chaser."
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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 - 8:14am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Apparently, "behemoth" means "small-to-ordinary" now.
 
 Blue Jays' BBQ Chicken Nachos

 As the only baseball stadium in Canada, Rogers Centre (home of the Toronto Blue Jays) had to really ramp up its food game. And it stepped up to the challenge with BBQ Chicken Nachos. As it sounds, it's a behemoth pile of nachos topped with chicken and barbecue sauces as well as cheese, salsa, and sour cream.

 

 
I do not think that word means what they think it means....
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Mar 30, 2012 - 8:12am

Apparently, "behemoth" means "small-to-ordinary" now.
 
 Blue Jays' BBQ Chicken Nachos

 As the only baseball stadium in Canada, Rogers Centre (home of the Toronto Blue Jays) had to really ramp up its food game. And it stepped up to the challenge with BBQ Chicken Nachos. As it sounds, it's a behemoth pile of nachos topped with chicken and barbecue sauces as well as cheese, salsa, and sour cream.

 
Prodigal_SOB

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Posted: Feb 8, 2009 - 11:36am

 oldslabsides wrote:
I'm tired of hearing "prodigal" being used to mean "wandering, given to running away or leaving and returning."  The parable in the book of Luke tells of a son who squanders his father's money.  Prodigal means "recklessly wasteful or extravagant."  And if you say popular usage has changed that, I say, fuck popular usage!

~ George Carlin

 
I think I have to side with George here.

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Posted: Feb 7, 2009 - 8:03pm

 Inamorato wrote:

make loveThe original meaning was "to woo or court" but changed into a genteel expression for sexual intercourse. This makes for some unintentional humor when hearing old movie dialogue. Similarly, the 1960 movie with Marilyn Monroe and Yves Montand, Let's Make Love, was not a bedroom farce.

1960...

1970...

 
And Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint in North by Northwest.

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Posted: Feb 7, 2009 - 3:41pm

 manbirdexperiment wrote:

A head of their time...
 

 
Another song of theirs, "She's a Muscular Boy"

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