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black321

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Posted: Jun 29, 2022 - 2:12pm

My money, my choice! (joking, of course)


Isabeau

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Posted: Jun 29, 2022 - 1:30pm

LOL. It tickles me how so many men are truly oblivious as to how this will affect them.
Court ordered Paternity DNA is a thing, gentlemen. Pretend to turn a blind eye. But you can bet the Republicans' ideas of what's uppermost in Voters Minds will dramatically change.
Barely the beginning of July 2022.  Guess how many times the words: "I'm late" or "I'm pregnant" will come up just by the end of August.
Not just thousands, but Millions.

Husbands and Fathers of Daughters will begin to hear that phrase too often enough to slash the Republican Party's self described 'priorities.'

It's a win-win for States to fund State agencies and Overwhelmed Foster Care Systems. 
Did you really think that Republicans would force their aristo-political class to pay to raise these unplanned babies? Did you really believe the wealthy class gives an excrement about the average dude in America?

Aw sweetcakes. You're so gullible.

"Ti-i-i-ime is on my side, yes it is..." — Rolling Stones



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Posted: Jun 28, 2022 - 8:46am


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Posted: Jun 28, 2022 - 6:16am

 kurtster wrote:

 

Deny that.  Every other word out of your mouth is an F bomb ...


Finally, you've figured his fiendish plan, foiling his future desire for any fun.
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Posted: Jun 28, 2022 - 6:12am

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Deny that.  Every other word out of your mouth is an F bomb ...



  Your point being?
kurtster

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 11:09pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

Not true at any level. To quote R_D ... Fuck you ... (and the horse you rode in on).
Leave me out of your denialism, you miserable fuck.
 
Red_Dragon wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

There is no and never was a constitutional right to an abortion.  There is and always has been a constitutional right to carry or bear arms.  It is a first class right.  That right does not end at the front door of one's home.  It extends outside beyond the home as well.  That is the essence of the ruling.

The Constitution is designed to limit the government's ability to limit the rights of the citizens.  Not the other way around.


So, make sure those kids are born so that they can be slaughtered in second grade. Fuck you.
 

Deny that.  Every other word out of your mouth is an F bomb ...
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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 9:32pm

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 9:12pm

 kurtster wrote:

Not true at any level.

To quote R_D ... Fuck you ... (and the horse you rode in on).



I won't go so far as to claim that you hate Obama because he's black but I can't recall your posting anything complimentary about the man. You seem to go out of your way to criticize him, though. IIRC you view the bailout of the economy and the Big Three automakers on Obama's watch as a Wall Street bailout with no benefit for the average American. And the ACA is a big sop for insurance companies.

Another case in point: your question about why Obama didn't push for federal law on abortion rights. Let's blame Barack! A shame you didn't try to address my points about those times btw. Were you in a coma back then, Kurt? Have you forgotten what the hell happened or are you just sticking to what Donnie and Tucker are telling you?

I also consider Trump's hatred of Obama and your knee-jerk adherence to Trump's views. So no, you ain't fooling no one.

Oh, and right back at ya, cowboy.



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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 9:00pm

 kurtster wrote:

Not true at any level.

To quote R_D ... Fuck you ... (and the horse you rode in on).


Leave me out of your denialism, you miserable fuck.
kurtster

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 8:17pm

 kcar wrote:
 But Obama's a black guy whom Trump hates so Kurt hates him too.
 
Not true at any level.

To quote R_D ... Fuck you ... (and the horse you rode in on).
kcar

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 5:07pm

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Yes, they should have, even if it would have meant we'd be listening to you and your fellow minions screeching about government overreach and states' rights.  Frankly, they also underestimated the extent of fascism in this country, which is likely another reason for their lack of action.


Democrats in Congress are not nearly as monolithic and sheep-like as their Republican counterparts. An attempt at passing federal law permitting abortion would have split the party. And why would Obama try to touch that third-rail issue when Roe v. Wade stood and SCOTUS was not yet lousy with lying idiots like Barrett and  Crybaby Kavanaugh?

Finally, perhaps Kurt doesn't remember that Obama was pretty f*ckin' busy trying to save the American economy from complete collapse. Dubya's Secretary of Treasury (and former chairman of Goldman Sachs) Hank Paulson could tell Kurt all about that.

Oh, and Obama got the ACA passed. But Obama's a black guy whom Trump hates so Kurt hates him too.


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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 3:35pm

 steeler wrote:

I think there are many of us who fall into that group!

.   
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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 2:30pm

 maryte wrote:


Yes, they should have, even if it would have meant we'd be listening to you and your fellow minions screeching about government overreach and states' rights.  Frankly, they also underestimated the extent of fascism in this country, which is likely another reason for their lack of action.

I think there are many of us who fall into that group!


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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 2:12pm

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my last thought on this subject ...

If this was such an important issue to democrats, why did they not pass a law in Congress during the Obama administration when they had a super majority and passage would be guaranteed ?

Obviously, to me, they had more to gain by keep making it an issue than by resolving it.

Have fun.  I'm going back to playing with music.



Yes, they should have, even if it would have meant we'd be listening to you and your fellow minions screeching about government overreach and states' rights.  Frankly, they also underestimated the extent of fascism in this country, which is likely another reason for their lack of action.
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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 11:37am

 R_P wrote:
It then follows that some states can't have IVF anymore either.
Isabeau

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 10:54am

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I'm good with infanticide if a reasonable of the citizenry also approves of infanticide.  But if the fellow citizens oppose infanticide, I am fine with the restriction.

As for erecting barriers to medically safe abortions I strongly oppose for a whole slew of personal, moral, ethical, collective security and economic reasons.  Human capital is so critical in today's economy that the quality of child rearing and education is just as or more important than ever. Presumably wanted, planned children stand a better chance.  



The treatment for An Ectopic pregnancy  is abortion.

The treatment for a Septic Uterus  is abortion.

The treatment for a miscarriage your body won't completely release  is abortion.

If you can't get these abortions, you die.

YOU DIE.



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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 10:42am

Many quivers can be used to fight back against this assault on women's rights. Now the SCOTUS has jettisoned personal privacy and body autonomy, we can move to legislate court ordered paternity dna child support - married or not. If biology dictates forced birth, then it can also force financial assistance.

No one wants baby mama's parents to show up and say, "Hey, I have results your son is this situation's co-producer, and I'm going to solicit the court to force him to help finance this project one way or the other."

Just the fear of that happening to one's son may mean stepping up the sex ed.
It may make young men think twice about unprotected sex.
It may encourage husbands to make that vasectomy appointment.
When testicles are as nervous as ovaries — support, finances and creative solutions are immediate.

Responsibility in the 21st century. It isn't just for girls anymore.

kurtster

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 9:01am

my last thought on this subject ...

If this was such an important issue to democrats, why did they not pass a law in Congress during the Obama administration when they had a super majority and passage would be guaranteed ?

Obviously, to me, they had more to gain by keep making it an issue than by resolving it.

Have fun.  I'm going back to playing with music.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jun 27, 2022 - 8:31am

It would take a lot, but I’d suggest that ALL women’s health care providers should just go about their business, without modification. What happens next? Prosecution (tying up the courts), imprisonment (really?), loss of license (more likely) and then - what happens to women’s health care in general in the nation? Not that it’s already great.

But just like police have to give up on arresting EVERYONE that takes a toke in states where it’s illegal, if provision of abortion is so widespread that it’s impossible to enforce the law practically…
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Posted: Jun 26, 2022 - 10:49am

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