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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 6:44pm

 rgio wrote:

I think we'll see the Republicans pivot to the center in 2028, assuming Trump loses.  

If he wins, there won't be an election, so it won't matter.  Either way, I just don't see Johnson as the "next".


Unless something should happen to Drumph AND his veep. 
rgio

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 3:25pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Which is why he’s gonna be a favorite of the GOP when T either loses or wins. 


I think we'll see the Republicans pivot to the center in 2028, assuming Trump loses.  

If he wins, there won't be an election, so it won't matter.  Either way, I just don't see Johnson as the "next".
Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 1:52pm

 rgio wrote:

He's got the same increasingly out-of-step conservative views as Trump, except with him, you know he believes it.   

Which is why he’s gonna be a favorite of the GOP when T either loses or wins. 


steeler

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 12:38pm

 rgio wrote:

Trump turns on everyone not named Ivanka.  Yes, Melania, you're on notice (thanks to your help with the campaign).

Johnson has no chance IMO.  His worldview can be found in the bible?  God made him speaker?  

He's got the same increasingly out-of-step conservative views as Trump, except with him, you know he believes it.   


Concur.
rgio

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 12:06pm

 steeler wrote:

If he survives the threatened motion to vacate and if Trump does not turn on him.

He might survive the former, probably not the latter.


Trump turns on everyone not named Ivanka.  Yes, Melania, you're on notice (thanks to your help with the campaign).

Johnson has no chance IMO.  His worldview can be found in the bible?  God made him speaker?  

He's got the same increasingly out-of-step conservative views as Trump, except with him, you know he believes it.   
islander

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 10:42am

 steeler wrote:

If he survives the threatened motion to vacate and if Trump does not turn on him.

He might survive the former, probably not the latter.



He's still got a shot at being trump's VP (doesn't mean trump won't turn on him).
steeler

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 9:35am

 Steely_D wrote:

Mike Johnson - GOP Presidential nominee 2028. You read it here first.
And he’d have a very good chance.


If he survives the threatened motion to vacate and if Trump does not turn on him.

He might survive the former, probably not the latter.

Steely_D

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Posted: Apr 12, 2024 - 9:07am

Mike Johnson - GOP Presidential nominee 2028. You read it here first.
And he’d have a very good chance.
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Posted: Apr 2, 2024 - 1:05pm

Republican 'Pro-Life' platform:

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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 31, 2024 - 1:33pm

Rep. Tim Walberg 'stands' by his belief Israel should nuke Gaza
islander

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 9:08am

 black321 wrote:


ahh, ok. 
misread, hadn't had coffee yet


That was probably his excuse too! "Women can vote after they bring me my coffee" seems right up his alley 
black321

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 8:56am

 islander wrote:


These quotes are from the 1920 republican platform. Do you really think he's 'a friend to Mexico'? or supportive of union labor? Or in favor of tax reform only after our obligations are covered? Equal pay and rights for all people? supporting the league of nations? fair housing and government support for people acquiring housing? 

I don't see him as an 'old timey republican' by any stretch.



ahh, ok. 
misread, hadn't had coffee yet
islander

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 8:37am

 black321 wrote:

Hmm, other than supporting trump, coops and unions...these quotes seem to paint him as an old time republican?



These quotes are from the 1920 republican platform. Do you really think he's 'a friend to Mexico'? or supportive of union labor? Or in favor of tax reform only after our obligations are covered? Equal pay and rights for all people? supporting the league of nations? fair housing and government support for people acquiring housing? 

I don't see him as an 'old timey republican' by any stretch.

black321

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 7:34am

 islander wrote:


Had to go look that one up. It's not quite correct, but not that much better. The extended quote is: 
"

'I absolutely want to go back to the America where women couldn't vote.' Do you know why? Because in those days, we had people who fought for real social change and they were called Republicans. And they are the reason why women can vote today.

"
The problem of course, is that now he's really trying to give republicans of today credit for getting suffrage passed. Here's a few other snippets from the Repulblican party platform of the day:

"We favor a liberal and generous foreign policy founded upon definite moral and political principle, characterized by a clear understanding of and a firm adherence to our own rights, and unfailing respect for the rights of others."

Mexico got name checked:"The Republican party is a sincere friend of the Mexican people. In its insistence upon the maintenance of order for the protection of American citizens within its borders a great service will be rendered the Mexican people themselves; for a continuation of present conditions means disaster to their interests and patriotic aspirations."

"The Republican party stands for agreement among the nations to preserve the peace of the world."

farm labor: "The Republican party believes that this condition can be improved by: practical and adequate farm representation in the appointment of governmental officials and commissions; the right to form co-operative associations for marketing their products, and protection against discrimination; the scientific study of agricultural prices and farm production costs, at home and abroad, with a view to reducing the frequency of abnormal fluctuation"

industrial labor:"We recognize the justice of collective bargaining as a means of promoting good will, establishing closer and more harmonious relations between employers and employees and realizing the true ends of industrial justice."

taxes: "The burden of taxation imposed upon the American people is staggering; but in presenting a true statement of the situation we must face the fact that, while the character of the taxes can and should be changed, an early reduction of the amount of revenue to be raised is not to be expected."

There is a lot more, but this guy wouldn't be a Republican in 1920.

Hmm, other than supporting trump, coops and unions...these quotes seem to paint him as an old time republican?

Proclivities

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 7:23am

 islander wrote:


Had to go look that one up. It's not quite correct, but not that much better. The extended quote is: 
...
There is a lot more, but this guy wouldn't be a Republican in 1920.

He's also a "casual" holocaust denier, among several other things.
islander

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 6:36am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Had to go look that one up. It's not quite correct, but not that much better. The extended quote is: 
"

'I absolutely want to go back to the America where women couldn't vote.' Do you know why? Because in those days, we had people who fought for real social change and they were called Republicans. And they are the reason why women can vote today.

"
The problem of course, is that now he's really trying to give republicans of today credit for getting suffrage passed. Here's a few other snippets from the Repulblican party platform of the day:

"We favor a liberal and generous foreign policy founded upon definite moral and political principle, characterized by a clear understanding of and a firm adherence to our own rights, and unfailing respect for the rights of others."

Mexico got name checked:"The Republican party is a sincere friend of the Mexican people. In its insistence upon the maintenance of order for the protection of American citizens within its borders a great service will be rendered the Mexican people themselves; for a continuation of present conditions means disaster to their interests and patriotic aspirations."

"The Republican party stands for agreement among the nations to preserve the peace of the world."

farm labor: "The Republican party believes that this condition can be improved by: practical and adequate farm representation in the appointment of governmental officials and commissions; the right to form co-operative associations for marketing their products, and protection against discrimination; the scientific study of agricultural prices and farm production costs, at home and abroad, with a view to reducing the frequency of abnormal fluctuation"

industrial labor:"We recognize the justice of collective bargaining as a means of promoting good will, establishing closer and more harmonious relations between employers and employees and realizing the true ends of industrial justice."

taxes: "The burden of taxation imposed upon the American people is staggering; but in presenting a true statement of the situation we must face the fact that, while the character of the taxes can and should be changed, an early reduction of the amount of revenue to be raised is not to be expected."

There is a lot more, but this guy wouldn't be a Republican in 1920.
rgio

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Posted: Mar 15, 2024 - 6:23am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

This guy might single-handedly get Biden elected.  

3 bankruptcies, several court cases for non-payment of his bills, tax liens for 7 years of non-filing... and the conservative BONUS item: admitted to paying for an abortion in 1989.

Make America Great Again!

MAGA - where you can fool all of the people all of the time.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Mar 14, 2024 - 3:00pm

GOP nominee to run North Carolina public schools called for violence against Democrats, including executing Obama and Biden
Steely_D

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Posted: Mar 14, 2024 - 2:40pm

MAGA Gov. Kristi Noem Is Now Being Sued for Her Weird Teeth Surgery Ad


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Posted: Mar 14, 2024 - 12:03pm

Haha https://www.msnbc.com/the-reid...
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