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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:26am

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Makes one thing, what are the odds the Russians themselves might put an end (Ceasar like) to this?
 
{#Sick} omg, the look of fear on his face. 

as to internal solutions.. one can only hope.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:25am

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as foolish as it is i'm pretty sure this was going to happen regardless peace
 
This is the bottom line.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:22am

btw, this twitter thread from Prof Talmadge is a bit sobering - because lucid.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:22am


Makes one thing, what are the odds the Russians themselves might put an end (Ceasar like) to this?
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 10:18am

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Taking this as a check list, Putin has achieved more than 50%: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Another interesting perspective: https://twitter.com/PeterZeiha...
 
That fits the neo-fascist mold, wie das Faust aufs Auge, to use an apposite German phrase.. Fighting imaginary demons to gain control of .. . what exactly? Your own people??

It will only be a matter of time before any neo-fascist enterprise fails:

1. Either it is beaten down from outside forces  
or
2. it succeeds and starts consuming itself from within for want of a perceived enemy.

Nazi Germany suffered from both of these. It didn't manage to rid itself of its demons even when it conquered most of Europe and had exterminated literally millions of its perceived enemies (who were quite innocent) and even before it got push-back (from Russia ironically enough) and the other allies it was already crippled by internal fighting. 

Putin's Russia is an attempt to resurrect the one-party state of the Soviets and extend Russian influence. To do this it needs imaginary enemies (in this case the allegation that NATO is adversarial and out to invade it) and is willing to exterminate its own people to reinforce this narrative. Sooner or later it will devour itself from within. It's already corrupt as hell, dependent on exporting oil and gas to earn revenue but it can't help but frame the very people it sells to as its enemies.

there is no way this can end well for Russia. 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 8:38am

Was wondering how much US debt russia owned...not much, last i saw it was about $5-$6B in mid 2021...down from over $160B in 2014. 
China still owns over $1T, so there's that. 
This article dates back to 2018, when they cut another chunk.



Russia dumped 84% of its American debt. What that means

by Matt Egan @MattEganCNNJuly 30, 2018: 1:28 PM ETMnuchin: U.S. debt to China does not give them leverage

Russia has rapidly sold off the vast majority of its stash of American debt.

Between March and May, Russia's holdings of US Treasury bonds plummeted by $81 billion, representing 84% of its total US debt holdings.

The sudden debt dump may have contributed to a short-term spike in Treasury rates that spooked the market. 10-year Treasury yields topped 3% in April for the first time since 2014.

It also sparked a guessing game about Moscow's motivations. Maybe Russia just wanted to diversify its portfolio, as the central bank stated. Or perhaps Russia was seeking revenge for Washington's crippling sanctions on aluminum maker Rusal.

Either way, there's little debate over the long-term impact. Russia's selling has not hurt America's ability to borrow money.

That's because investors — particularly life insurers and pension funds that serve aging baby boomers — have a big appetite for fixed income. Treasury rates quickly descended back below 3% because demand for bonds continued to grow.

russia us debt chart



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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:52am

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This was a done deal based on how Biden handled Afghanistan.



Yup, if Trump wasn't such a dumbass...loosing the election, or letting it get stolen from him, none of this would have happened.
If you really want to blame one person, pretty sure who that man is.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:47am

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Aka Comic Relief...



Well, he has said to call him Crazy. He always proves it an apt name.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:47am

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Regarding the “why now” question: I read an interesting take on this yesterday, before the start of the invasion. Trump talked about NATO being obsolete and perhaps US withdrawing from it during his campaign and at times during his presidency. That plus Trump’s expressed disdain for allies, such as Germany. The gist: Putin may have thought the weakening and maybe even dissolution of NATO would occur under Trump.
 
That makes sense. I'd even go further and say it is not just the weakening and dissolution of NATO he hoped for. At the same time there was (still is) a simultaneous dearth of Russian troll factories and widespread swing to right-wing nationalism throughout many western countries. This may have given Putin cause to think the weak and decadent west would simply dissolve by itself due to its moral turpitude and he could stride forward as the leader of a new (old) era of Soviet glory and regain its  place as the leader of (Soviet) nations or something equally bizarre. The strong man bashing old fashioned morality into people by force if necessary. Neofascism is what I would call it, plain and simple. 

A chilling parallel: the Nazi invasion was announced with "4 am, bombing of Kyiv". This time around its "5 am, bombing of Kyiv".  Putin huilo indeed.

Now those dreams of neo-fascist glory are fading, it's kind of a last ditch, now or never thing. Just now we can all see his true face, as if anyone was in any doubt.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:46am

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Hey Crazy!

Aka Comic Relief...

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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:45am

 kurtster wrote:

This was a done deal based on how Biden handled Afghanistan.



Sorry, no. 

Russia's invasion is massive and well-coordinatef. It required a great deal of planning and preparation. Russia likely started planning this attack long before Biden's and even Trump's announcements on pulling out of Afghanistan.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:42am

 kurtster wrote:

This was a done deal based on how Biden handled Afghanistan.



Hey Crazy!
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:38am

 kurtster wrote:

This was a done deal based on how Biden handled Afghanistan.



You mean for finishing what Trump wanted and started? It was a no win situation, unless you wanted to invest a lot more into it. Frankly I blame Obama for not getting us out sooner. Clearly Russia also did not learn anything for their time there.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:21am

Regarding the “why now” question:

I read an interesting take on this yesterday, before the start of the invasion. Trump talked about NATO being obsolete and perhaps US withdrawing from it during his campaign and at times during his presidency. That plus Trump’s expressed disdain for allies, such as Germany. The gist: Putin may have thought the weakening and maybe even dissolution of NATO would occur under Trump.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 7:10am

as foolish as it is i'm pretty sure this was going to happen regardless

peace
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 5:59am

This was a done deal based on how Biden handled Afghanistan.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 5:27am

Thanks Donny, you miserable fuck.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 4:57am

Well, fuck.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 4:44am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
I imagine your internet will be down, but if not, we are thinking of you. Stay safe during this passing shitstorm. I see it as the dying throes of a political dinosaur. Here's hoping things develop quickly for the better. They must. 
 
yes, both russia and china are facing obvious demographic and political challenges
putin is basically saying that ukraine is a fiction and that he as russia's dictator has a higher claim on their lives, liberty and resources
he has zero credibility as a human being and his human rights record is predictably horrible 

on another note


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Posted: Feb 24, 2022 - 12:59am

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The lanes at all closed airports are blocked by tractors to prevent the possible landing of enemy aircraft with troops
 
I imagine your internet will be down, but if not, we are thinking of you. Stay safe during this passing shitstorm. I see it as the dying throes of a political dinosaur. Here's hoping things develop quickly for the better. They must. 
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