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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:35pm

 Animal-Farm wrote: 
um, they are not the problem here.
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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:27pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

{#Lol}



American volunteer in Ukraine and the same video on Twitter

British guy goes to Ukraine and reports what he sees


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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:15pm

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 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Great. Authoritative conspiracy nuts stirring up a big batch of Nofuckinshit for us. So what? Why is this a problem, and why publicize it? Who benefits from this knowledge? 
I also read and saw videos of an English guy who went to Ukraine and said it was like a movie set, and an American soldier I guess trying to be a mercenary or something and he went there and he was like scared out of his mind because he said that they were being used as cannon fodder and then they were being counted as Ukrainian deaths and he was like get me the hell out of this place he didn't think things were legit either.
 
{#Lol} Try thinking.  
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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:12pm

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Great. Authoritative conspiracy nuts stirring up a big batch of Nofuckinshit for us. So what? Why is this a problem, and why publicize it? Who benefits from this knowledge? 


I also read and saw videos of an English guy who went to Ukraine and said it was like a movie set, and an American soldier I guess trying to be a mercenary or something and he went there and he was like scared out of his mind because he said that they were being used as cannon fodder and then they were being counted as Ukrainian deaths and he was like get me the hell out of this place he didn't think things were legit either.
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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 12:04pm

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John Helmer: “Zelensky Himself Is Now in Polish Hands;” March 15 Summit with Polish, Czech, and Slovenian Prime Ministers in Przemysl, Poland, Not Kiev

Posted on March 17, 2022 by

Yves here. John Helmer makes a bombshell revelation in his latest post, that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky participated in an in-person summit on March 15, not as widely touted in Ukraine, but in Poland. It is virtually certain that given the difficulty of assuring safe passage that Zelensky has not returned to Kiev.

This allegation matters because it vitiates the effort to depict Zelensky as the second coming of Winston Churchill, heroically holed up in his capital as bombs are falling. Zelensky staying, or appearing to stay, in Kiev, is also a rallying point for the sure-to-lose-but-still fighting Ukrainian army and the civilians who still unrealistically hope that Ukraine can win on the battlefield.

Admittedly, Helmer relies significantly on the debunking of visual evidence….which has not proven difficult to do with a lot of Ukrainian propaganda. Helmer was a master well before the wor, having made the downing of MH-17 a pet project (he not only finely parsed photographs, but made careful readings of inconsistent and shifting claims of experts and prosecutors).

One might point out that showing that the official visual narrative of the meeting is faked does not necessarily prove that Zelensky was not in Kiev. Helmer presents other evidence that supports his contention, including reports from sources in Poland. What I found was compelling was that it was utterly implausible that the Polish, Czech, and Slovenian leaders made a long, overland trek to Kiev, as official accounts claimed. That would be disastrously risky in the absences of Russian assurances of safe passage, which were never made. That then begs the question of what actually happened.




Great. Authoritative conspiracy nuts stirring up a big batch of Nofuckinshit for us. So what? Why is this a problem, and why publicize it? Who benefits from this knowledge? 
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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 11:18am

John Helmer: “Zelensky Himself Is Now in Polish Hands;” March 15 Summit with Polish, Czech, and Slovenian Prime Ministers in Przemysl, Poland, Not Kiev

Posted on March 17, 2022 by

Yves here. John Helmer makes a bombshell revelation in his latest post, that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky participated in an in-person summit on March 15, not as widely touted in Ukraine, but in Poland. It is virtually certain that given the difficulty of assuring safe passage that Zelensky has not returned to Kiev.

This allegation matters because it vitiates the effort to depict Zelensky as the second coming of Winston Churchill, heroically holed up in his capital as bombs are falling. Zelensky staying, or appearing to stay, in Kiev, is also a rallying point for the sure-to-lose-but-still fighting Ukrainian army and the civilians who still unrealistically hope that Ukraine can win on the battlefield.

Admittedly, Helmer relies significantly on the debunking of visual evidence….which has not proven difficult to do with a lot of Ukrainian propaganda. Helmer was a master well before the wor, having made the downing of MH-17 a pet project (he not only finely parsed photographs, but made careful readings of inconsistent and shifting claims of experts and prosecutors).

One might point out that showing that the official visual narrative of the meeting is faked does not necessarily prove that Zelensky was not in Kiev. Helmer presents other evidence that supports his contention, including reports from sources in Poland. What I found was compelling was that it was utterly implausible that the Polish, Czech, and Slovenian leaders made a long, overland trek to Kiev, as official accounts claimed. That would be disastrously risky in the absences of Russian assurances of safe passage, which were never made. That then begs the question of what actually happened.


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Posted: Mar 17, 2022 - 3:59am

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satellite photos show it had the word children painted on the ground outside 



seeing some early info on line that says most of the people are alive
just buried/trapped in the rubble
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 8:44pm

Where else?
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 8:29pm

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This news I heard regarding Taiwan is coming from a whistleblower who just stepped forward.  No link for this.  Just heard in passing.  A high likely hood of being correct.  No reason to discount it.  No reason to ignore it either.  Time will tell.  Me, I have long been thinking that Xi would invade right after our November elections.  That would be the optimum time imo, or was until Putin went and invaded Ukraine and the subsequent reactions.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 8:01pm

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An interesting perspective.  Took awhile to get through and I will likely reread it for further digestion. Interesting to call NATO's expansion an act of imperialism.  Hard for me to call voluntary geopolitical reorganizing a form of imperialism.  That would in kind make the UN an imperialistic organization, no ? Another fallout from Ukraine is the apparent revelation that Xi has evidently put off his planned invasion of Taiwan for this fall as a result of all the international economic fussing going on and its potential implications for China should he do the deed.  Putin may be screwing Ukraine, but he has temporarily saved Taiwan, for now.

If you have hard intel about China's plans you should forward it to the Pentagon immediately! Your sources are obviously far more advanced than theirs, which is only to be expected— they're probably behind on their cable bill.
 
This news I heard regarding Taiwan is coming from a whistleblower who just stepped forward.  No link for this.  Just heard in passing.  A high likely hood of being correct.  No reason to discount it.  No reason to ignore it either.  Time will tell.  Me, I have long been thinking that Xi would invade right after our November elections.  That would be the optimum time imo, or was until Putin went and invaded Ukraine and the subsequent reactions.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 5:26pm

looks like the people of belarus aren't happy ...


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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 2:50pm

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satellite photos show it had the word children painted on the ground outside 



well this isn't good
from five days ago


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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 1:59pm

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not exactly sure what's happening but i think a theater (with people) was shelled
working and can't watch the tube, but i saw something in a news feed
 
satellite photos show it had the word children painted on the ground outside 

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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:55pm

A jarring illustration of two different presidential opinions:

Biden
 
Putin = War Criminal
 
Trump
 
Putin = Genius
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:53pm

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An interesting perspective.  Took awhile to get through and I will likely reread it for further digestion.

Interesting to call NATO's expansion an act of imperialism.  Hard for me to call voluntary geopolitical reorganizing a form of imperialism.  That would in kind make the UN an imperialistic organization, no ?

Another fallout from Ukraine is the apparent revelation that Xi has evidently put off his planned invasion of Taiwan for this fall as a result of all the international economic fussing going on and its potential implications for China should he do the deed.  Putin may be screwing Ukraine, but he has temporarily saved Taiwan, for now.

If you have hard intel about China's plans you should forward it to the Pentagon immediately! Your sources are obviously far more advanced than theirs, which is only to be expected— they're probably behind on their cable bill.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:49pm

not exactly sure what's happening but i think a theater (with people) was shelled
working and can't watch the tube, but i saw something in a news feed
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:43pm

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Nice to see you posting something in favour of government intervention to manage Covid for a change.
Lol it's amazing how everything has overt or subliminal messages, everything is propaganda it was linked to by naked capitalism which is really into masks they feel the virus is from aerosols not droplets and so they think everybody should wear masks forever and they literally tweak the many articles that they link to if it's in favor of that anything about masks.
 
tbh, I don't really care what you think - as long as you think.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 12:22pm

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Nice to see you posting something in favour of government intervention to manage Covid for a change.


Lol it's amazing how everything has overt or subliminal messages, everything is propaganda

it was linked to by naked capitalism which is really into masks they feel the virus is from aerosols not droplets and so they think everybody should wear masks forever and they literally tweak the many articles that they link to if it's in favor of that anything about masks.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 11:54am

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The Superpower Of Admitting the Obvious

MARCH 15, 2022

It really is weird to have the “superpower” of being able to see the obvious.

 
Nice to see you posting something in favour of government intervention to manage Covid for a change.
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Posted: Mar 16, 2022 - 11:41am

The Superpower Of Admitting the Obvious

MARCH 15, 2022

It really is weird to have the “superpower” of being able to see the obvious.


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