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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 11:47am

Discerning Volodymyr Zelensky

Posted on March 8, 2022 by

By Lambert Strether of Corrente.

“‘Not A Very Nice Person At All,’ she read. ‘I wonder what kind of person would put that on a wallet?’ ‘Someone who wasn’t a very nice person,’ said William.” –Terry Pratchett, The Truth

In this extremely short and simplistic post, I will do what it says on the tin: Scrape away the already deeply impacted layers of wartime propaganda<1>. I propose to do this in the old-fashioned American way: By following the money. (I was inspired to write this post by Gonzalo Lira, former NC contributor (!), streaming from Kharkiv (!!). His video, “Who Is Zelensky? A Puppet—and Here’s Why,” is perceptive, lucid, and convincing, albeit NSFW. I recommend you listen to it, on the off chance that the more hits this video has, the more of a public figure — hence, safer — Lira will be.)

As a caveat: I’m going to be looking at the dealings of a billionaire, the armed militants he funds, and a politician he funds. All these relationships are so complicated and intricate as to make, say, The Clinton Foundation look like a child’s scribbled drawing. All these relationships are deeply rooted in the history of Ukrainian nationalism as well, with plenty of heroism and villainy to go around. By taking a transactional approach (“follow the money”) I abstract away from all that. (For example, Watergate exploded because it involved cash payoffs, not because of the often bizarre personal histories of the participants.)

With that, let’s begin with the money man.


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Reuters:

Some of Ukraine’s private battalions have blackened the country’s international reputation with their extremist views. The Azov battalion, partially funded by Taruta and Kolomoisky, uses the Nazi Wolfsangel symbol as its logo, and many of its members openly espouse neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic views. The battalion members have spoken about “bringing the war to Kiev,” and said that Ukraine needs “a strong dictator to come to power who could shed plenty of blood but unite the nation in the process.”

(There’s that “redemptive violence” thing.)

And besides funding the Azov Battalion, Kolomoyskyi is funding somebody else, seriously and for some time.

The Politician: Volodymyr Zelensky

That would be the current President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky<5>. From the BBC:

n the Ukrainian political television dramedy Servant of the People, Volodymyr Zelensky plays a teacher who becomes president after a video of him ranting against government corruption goes viral. It’s typical of the programme’s slapstick take on the country’s struggles with oligarchy and overindulgent bureaucrats during its 18 years as an independent, post-Soviet nation. But scenes like this one have taken on a new significance now that Zelensky has become the real president of Ukraine, thanks to his popularity as a fictional leader.

Ironic, history. More:

Servant of the People premiered in Ukraine in 2015, starring Zelensky – then known as a comic actor – as a regular guy-turned-president named Vasyl Petrovych Holoborodko. The show ran for three seasons on the country’s 1+1 channel

In terms of quality, Servant of the People holds its own against any internationally known prestige comedy, which likely contributed to its effectiveness in both pointing out such corruption and crowning a real president. It falls somewhere between Armando Iannucci’s dark, cutting political satires, The Thick of It and Veep, and the sunny American take on local politics, Parks and Recreation. Servant of the People hits close to the bone at times, but offers a ray of hope too, packaged in smooth production, tight writing, fine performances, and laugh-out-loud sequences.

It’s little wonder that such a series, coupled with Zelensky’s winning performance as a smart, moral everyman, added up to a presidential victory that exceeded the show’s fantasy version of election night: on Servant of the People, he won 67% of the vote; in real life, he won 73.2%.

And the kicker:

Kolomoisky owns 1+1, which broadcast Servant of the People and ostensibly helped to bring Zelensky to power.

“Ostensibly” is doing more work there than any mere adverb should every have to do. And Zelensky fits into the West Wing-shaped hole in the liberal Democrat brain. A telling detail on the 2019 election:

With the Ukrainian economy stalled and Poroshenko’s approval rating approaching single digits, it seemed likely that the 2019 presidential election would be a repeat of the 2014 contest, with the incumbent facing Orange Revolution veteran Yulia Tymoshenko. Instead, more than three dozen candidates entered the race, and Zelensky emerged as one of the front-runners virtually from the moment of the declaration of his candidacy. That announcement was made on 1+1 on December 31, 2018, preempting Poroshenko’s annual New Year’s address. The provocative move raised questions about the involvement of 1+1 owner Kolomoisky in Zelensky’s campaign.

I’ll bet!

Conclusion


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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 9:01am

Everything you always wanted to know about Ukraine*

*But were afraid to ask

AJC Boone is back with the kind of post that is destined to become the default reference for everyone trying to separate propaganda from empirical reality over the manufactured Ukraine crisis. A former diplomat, Boone is very much on her home turf here, and it shows: for the first time you will read about the real nature of Ukraine – its history, culture, leadership disaster and political corruption; and you can follow the evidenced blow-by-blow story of just how little Putin really ‘wants’ in relation to the country – as well as just how much diplomatic demonisation has been used by American and European media-military machines in search of an ethereal ‘threat’. In a theatre where Truth long ago left by the back door, Amy Boone is a class act. Enjoy.


What I Saw Then

In my Kievan summer of 1992, the US embassy was staffed largely by the diasporan-offspring of WWII Displaced Persons, slavically world-weary Americans called Ihor and Natalja and Bohdan. The subject of lunchtime chatter in the canteen ambled from no-goodnik relatives nicknamed “Snake,” to the unwelcome prospect of obligatory visits to country-cousins at the weekend. My own three staffers were not Americans but local-hires. These included an administrator-of-a-certain-age with dreamy blue Mitford eyes, who sighed like a Xanaxed Chekhov sister over lost romance; and soon-departing Oleh, who on the basis of his Jewish ethnicity had finagled permission to emigrate to Israel. This felt like a Willy Wonka Golden Ticket escape from a place whence there literally was no escape (the USSR a mere three years before had been exactly such a place). I could hardly imagine that any Jews survived the predations of the 20th c in this part of the world. Oh, hang on a second, Oleh was not, strictly-speaking, Jewish, I learned. His wife, from whom he was long-divorced – she was Jewish…. Oh.

Onto this Green Acres tableau of lassitude and mischief came a hard-assed US Ambassador, Roman Popadiuk. Formerly President Ronald Reagan’s press secretary, Popadiuk spoke quickly, walked briskly, and grilled his team of diplomats at morning meetings with the surly impatience of a Very Important Person who still expected to be called at any moment to the Situation Room under the West Wing. Emigré Popadiuk spoke native Ukrainian in meetings with actual Ukrainian functionaries who, characteristic of the residual Soviet elite, preferred to speak Russian.

I thought at the time that it must be Popadiuk’s peculiar self-regard that drove his outsized (not to say delusional) diplomatic expectations, so ill-matched to the place where he was stationed. He seemed occasionally to notice the mismatch himself, as his voice would taper off in mid-soliloquy, a sour twinkle in his eye reflecting the dawning realisation of the frankly comical limits of his environment. I now realise that Popadiuk was far more likely to have been carrying Washington’s brief than any private one. Popadiuk was therefore not so much an ambitious eccentric, as a man dangling in the abyss between what Washington needed Ukraine to be, and what Ukraine actually was.

What Washington has needed Ukraine to be since the end of the Cold War – given President George Bush Sr’s Administration’s fateful and oft-quoted (by Russians) promise to Gorbachev that NATO would not extend itself “eastward by a single inch” – is a plucky little damsel-in-distress, a restless democratic republic yearning-to-breathe-free, who will invite the Americans in to rescue her from the big bad monster next-door. In rescuing the damsel/Ukrainian land-mass, the US-NATO alliance will be able to snuggle right up against the pancreas of its old Soviet foe. And everybody will cheer and hoist the FBI/CIA operatives on their shoulders…

What I’ve Noticed Since

As for what Ukraine actually is, I offer this little string of pearls:


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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 7:30am

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BTW —-> AnimalFarm's html-table further down ist killing this thread for smaller screeens! 
Unfortunately, it was quoted by someone.... so now there'd be more than one post to edit, 
in order to fix that mess.  
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I was unable to fix via editing so I deleted it 
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Posted: Mar 8, 2022 - 5:03am

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BTW —-> AnimalFarm's html-table further down ist killing this thread for smaller screeens! 
Unfortunately, it was quoted by someone.... so now there'd be more than one post to edit, 
in order to fix that mess.  
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took care of my post if that is what you were referring to.
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 10:00pm

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 kurtster wrote:

You have revealed your true self. On behalf of all the blue collar white trash in flyover country (who cling to their guns and Bibles, to complete the thought) ... you can go fuck yourself. Lord only knows what you think of all the minorities that also live here. .
Hear! Hear!
What amazes me... the ones who tout this stuff are the same ones who condemn "those rich people!"
Who can afford to live to live on those coast? 
 
Thanks. 

As a refugee from the West Coast before it became the Left Coast, the only way old natives like yourself can afford to still live there in some kind of comfort is Prop 13.  Otherwise, you have to be either rich, come in illegally and sponge off the system or have lots of roommates.

Oh, there is another option ... be a self contained bio hazard unit living on the street somewhere, aka as a homeless person.
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 9:52pm

 kurtster wrote:

You have revealed your true self.

On behalf of all the blue collar white trash in flyover country (who cling to their guns and Bibles, to complete the thought) ... you can go fuck yourself.

Lord only knows what you think of all the minorities that also live here.

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Hear! Hear!
What amazes me... the ones who tout this stuff are the same ones who condemn "those rich people!"
Who can afford to live on those coast? 






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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 9:38pm

 Animal-Farm wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

.. maybe you should then quieten down a bit and go out for a walk.  (ps deleting your post doesn't count as exercise)
I was building on the previous comments. No worries.
 
I'm not sure I'd call that building but if you want some real world info, we have Ukrainian refugees arriving here now. It's real. Civilians are getting bombed, cities destroyed. Just like it ever was..
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 9:34pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

.. maybe you should then quieten down a bit and go out for a walk.  (ps deleting your post doesn't count as exercise)


I was commenting on the previous comments. Perhaps in response to what you had offered. No worries.

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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 9:25pm

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Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Arthur Koestler  are all easy reading and great novelists.  .. and none of them are any bleaker than the news is at the moment. 
And I don't even know what the news is saying or if I can believe it
 
.. maybe you should then quieten down a bit and go out for a walk.  (ps deleting your post doesn't count as exercise)
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 9:09pm

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Nightime reading
 
Aldous Huxley, George Orwell, Arthur Koestler

 are all easy reading and great novelists. 

.. and none of them are any bleaker than the news is at the moment. 
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 8:45pm

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 kurtster wrote:

The remark that got Bill Maher fired from his original show, Politically Incorrect, way back when ... Israel is our girlfriend and Saudi Arabia is our dope dealer. I saw that show when it aired.  Within a week it was over.

We've always been at war with Eastasia

just government Though Police. The people themselves participate, willfully, in "double think". I point this out because the rise of online journalism has meant the rise of editing old articles to conform to changing political realities — just like in 1984, but done willfully, without government mandate. Wikipedia articles and news stories change subtly, "corrected" not because of factual errors, but because of political errors. Consider the example in the book 1984 regarding the ongoing war between the three superstates of Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia (representing English, Russian, and Chinese empires respectively). At the start of the book, Oceania is at war with Eurasia. They have always been at war with Eurasia. That's the political consensus, and all historic documents agree. However, Winston Smith (the protagonist) remembers a time five years ago when Oceania was instead at war with Eastasia. Winston Smith struggles with philosophical idea of "truth". Which is more true, what everyone knows and what's in the newspapers, or the memories within his head? Then Ocean's allegiance switched back again. On the sixth day of Hate Week, as crowds gathered to denounce Eurasia, the Party switched enemies to Eastasia. In a particularly rousing speech against their enemy, the speaker was handed a slip of paper, and in mid-sentence, without pause, without change in content or tone, he changed the name of the enemy he was speaking against to Eastasia. Eurasia was now their dearest friends. Those holding banners denouncing their enemy were suddenly embarrassed to discover they had unaccountably written the wrong name, and quickly trampled and destroyed them. This change meant work for Winston in the Ministry of Truth:
Oceania was at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with
Eastasia. A large part of the political literature of five years was now
completely obsolete. Reports and records of all kinds, newspapers, books,
pamphlets, films, sound-tracks, photographs—all had to be rectified at
lightning speed. Although no directive was ever issued, it was known that
the chiefs of the Department intended that within one week no reference
to the war with Eurasia, or the alliance with Eastasia, should remain in
existence anywhere.
 
I never did read 1984 or any Orwell for that matter that I can recall.  Attempted to read 1984 but it was just too dark for me in 1968.  I went with Aldous Huxley instead.  1984 to me was about "Big Brother" and social manipulation.  Never got to the back story, was irrelevant to me, then  Also never read Animal Farm, but I know the gist.  Too late in life to find and read them now.  The take away's will likely not change. 

People will be sheeple and quite willingly.  News feeds are tailor made for confirmation bias reinforcement purposes, imo.  Don't have any or use any.  I prefer to find news on my own and take it to wherever it leads me, rather then be fed and led by algorithms. 

I could relate to Huxley and his future take was a little brighter and his indulgence with psychedelics also helped.  He made sense to me.

Soma do and Soma don't, I've always said.  :)
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 8:11pm

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We've always been at war with Eastasia

Orwell's point in 1984 was that it's more than just government Though Police. The people themselves participate, willfully, in "double think".

I point this out because the rise of online journalism has meant the rise of editing old articles to conform to changing political realities — just like in 1984, but done willfully, without government mandate. Wikipedia articles and news stories change subtly, "corrected" not because of factual errors, but because of political errors.

Consider the example in the book 1984 regarding the ongoing war between the three superstates of Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia (representing English, Russian, and Chinese empires respectively).

At the start of the book, Oceania is at war with Eurasia. They have always been at war with Eurasia. That's the political consensus, and all historic documents agree. However, Winston Smith (the protagonist) remembers a time five years ago when Oceania was instead at war with Eastasia. Winston Smith struggles with philosophical idea of "truth". Which is more true, what everyone knows and what's in the newspapers, or the memories within his head?

Then Ocean's allegiance switched back again. On the sixth day of Hate Week, as crowds gathered to denounce Eurasia, the Party switched enemies to Eastasia. In a particularly rousing speech against their enemy, the speaker was handed a slip of paper, and in mid-sentence, without pause, without change in content or tone, he changed the name of the enemy he was speaking against to Eastasia. Eurasia was now their dearest friends. Those holding banners denouncing their enemy were suddenly embarrassed to discover they had unaccountably written the wrong name, and quickly trampled and destroyed them.

This change meant work for Winston in the Ministry of Truth:
Oceania was at war with Eastasia: Oceania had always been at war with
Eastasia. A large part of the political literature of five years was now
completely obsolete. Reports and records of all kinds, newspapers, books,
pamphlets, films, sound-tracks, photographs—all had to be rectified at
lightning speed. Although no directive was ever issued, it was known that
the chiefs of the Department intended that within one week no reference
to the war with Eurasia, or the alliance with Eastasia, should remain in
existence anywhere.




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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 7:11pm

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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 7:05pm

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Moody's has upgraded the rating for Iran, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia to LE- - (Lesser Evil- -)

Now if one were really principled (on matters of both human rights and sovereignty)...
 
The remark that got Bill Maher fired from his original show, Politically Incorrect, way back when ...

Israel is our girlfriend and Saudi Arabia is our dope dealer.

I saw that show when it aired.  Within a week it was over.
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 6:54pm

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Fantastic, thoughtful analysis. It’s what we’ve come to expect of you. “I don’t follow the herd, but look what I saw on Imgur”


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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 1:47pm

Moody's has upgraded the rating for Iran, Venezuela and Saudi Arabia to LE- - (Lesser Evil- -)

Now if one were really principled (on matters of both human rights and sovereignty)...
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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 11:44am

Still the same...

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Posted: Mar 7, 2022 - 10:46am

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We have two sovereign states with conflicting views. When one says I have a red line and it involves restricting the sovereign rights of the other smaller state we don't have to accept that.

We all know the obvious, and yet...

There is no justification implied.

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