R_P wrote: 




Lol, ya think? But every country does, there are no true allies and it is naïve and quite possibly dangerous to think so.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
China has its own agenda and national interest.

 R_P wrote: 





Aye, but what prompted the change from China. I am not assigning credit or blame here, I just wonder what prompted the change in behavior because up until now China has been passive aggressively belligerent in any assistance with North Korea.

The biggest trade partner with NK is the one with the most influence. Any change of attitude is likely driven by them, not Orange Machismo.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
No, I was generally agreeing with you in that it's possible he could be feeling the elephant on his way toward something you and I would consider a positive.  I'm with Lazy, tho, too, so I'm just watching.
 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 








I just found it interesting that you seemed to think that I was praising Trump for positive and thoughtful action rather than just pointing out that Jung Un seems to respond better to a more Neanderthal approach and unlikely long sought for progress might end up being the result heaven forbid.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I am honestly not sure what you think you read that prompted this reply. 

Seems a little early to assign credit for this uuuge breakthru. After all we've been here—right here—before. And North Korea has played smarter people than Donald Trump before.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
He belongs to all of us. Like all the others. They are just emanations of the hamster wheel we run on. 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 




My boy, interesting. Looking to find somewhere my comments would indicate that I was a supporter of Trump or that Trump purposely did anything that displayed any intelligence, forethought or competency. You will not find any comments like that from me nor did I vote for him nor have I ever said anything that would compliment him in the slightest as a human being, I think I have been quite clear in this dissemination, but he's my boy.....interesting.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I'm pretty sure that 2 or 3 years ago, some of us were wishing for a president who would break with the conventional wisdom, say to NK, "we honestly DGAF what sort of government you inflict on yourselves. These 2 or 3 things are off limits (war on SK, Japan, general mayhem) but otherwise, have at it. Oh by the way, we'd love to sell you all some food and cars."
 
If that's what our boy is intending to do, fine. Just show them the respect they're due, and Kim as leader of a nation capable of sciencing some scary shit. Calling him Little Rocket Man doesn't seem like part of the game plan, but whatever.

 Red_Dragon wrote: 




I am not going to call you names, that is just silly but I could not disagree more. Believe it or not at least in this specific circumstance Trump's style is what Jung or whatever his name is responds to. You know sometimes ya just gotta be happy about something good without having your perpetual game face on. It is ok if Trump accidentally does something productive in spite of himself. Your world will not end, Hell in this case the chance may have even been lessened a bit.

let's stay on track here

you all may be underestimating the power of a well placed dennis rodman

 Beaker wrote: 
Hey, who are you calling an idiot? 

Kim would be suspending his weapons program at this point no matter who was in the White House. His objective has been accomplished; he has the world's attention. Just my two cents.

 Proclivities wrote: 

 R_P wrote:Maybe they can stream it on Netflix.  

 

 sdwright wrote: 
folks aren't missing a damn thing. they know who you are.

 Proclivities wrote:

 Proclivities wrote: 
the people in that restaurant looked scared.