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Posted: Oct 11, 2021 - 8:43am

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Research report on Palm Oil, a very efficiently sourced vegetable oil, that still has significant environmental concerns due to deforestation.
Scroll down to get the full report, including a scorecard on manufacturers and retailers. 

http://palmoilscorecard.panda....


I looked for a list of companies.  Unsuccessfully.

Ecopetrol, the Colombian state-owned, publicly traded (EC.n) oil & gas company exploits a large heavy oil deposit in the Llanos basin named Campo Rubiales.  Much deep ground water is lifted with the oil.  That water is processed and then used to irrigate palm tree plantations in the relatively dry Savannah of the Llanos which lies in a rain shadow east of the Andes. 

Relatively little forest would have been removed for these Palm trees plantations.  The irrigation with deep processed water would likely increase the carbon sink potential of the area.  Social license is key to success in places like Colombia and I do not recall any local opposition to the Palm tree plantations. They would create employment opportunities for some local people.

When these palm oil plantations are carved out of more humid forests  the overall ecological outcomes can be very different.  Or so is my impression.  

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Posted: Oct 11, 2021 - 7:19am

Research report on Palm Oil, a very efficiently sourced vegetable oil, that still has significant environmental concerns due to deforestation.
Scroll down to get the full report, including a scorecard on manufacturers and retailers. 

http://palmoilscorecard.panda....
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Posted: Aug 31, 2021 - 3:07pm

Syrian oil spill spreads across the Mediterranean and could reach Cyprus on Wednesday
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Posted: Aug 19, 2021 - 3:52pm

people doing some good work here...enjoy


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Posted: Aug 12, 2021 - 1:19pm

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story from 2015...wonder what it looks like now


Oh, I'm certain that Trump made those awful Chinese clean it up.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2021 - 1:08pm

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story from 2015...wonder what it looks like now
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The dystopian lake filled by the world’s tech lust
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Posted: Jul 29, 2021 - 1:40pm

Plants Feel Pain and Might Even See
It’s time to retire the hierarchical classification of living things.
In 2018, a German newspaper asked me if I would be interested in having a conversation with the philosopher Emanuele Coccia, who had just written a book about plants, Die Wurzeln der Welt (published in English as The Life of Plants). I was happy to say yes.

The German title of Coccia’s book translates as “The Roots of the World,” and the book really does cover this. It upends our view of the living world, putting plants at the top of the hierarchy with humans down at the bottom. I had been giving a great deal of thought to this myself. Ranking the natural world and scoring species according to their importance or their superiority seemed to me outdated. It distorts our view of nature and makes all the other species around us seem more primitive and somehow unfinished. For some time now, I have not been comfortable with viewing humans as the crown of creation, separating animals into higher and lower life-forms, and treating plants as something on the side, definitively banished to a lower level. (...)

After our first cup of coffee, we were soon deep into our main topic: trees and plants in general. Coccia argued that our biological classifications are not grounded in science. They are strongly influenced by theology and are dominated by two ideas: the supremacy of the human race and the world as a place humans must bend to their will. And then there is our centuries-old compulsion to categorize everything. When you combine these concepts, you get a ranking system that puts humankind at the top, animals in the middle, and plants way down at the bottom.

I listened, fascinated by what he had to say. Here was a man of my own heart. I would prefer it, I told Coccia, if science categorized species one beside the other. That would still allow an order, a system of sorting, without imposing any kind of a hierarchy. He immediately agreed. He reiterated his belief that the ordering system we have today is not scientific but rather influenced by cultural, historical, and religious values. For Coccia, the hard boundary between the plant and animal world does not exist. He believes plants can experience sensations and even reflect on them. And he is not the only one who thinks this. (...)

Baluška was ready with other quite different discoveries. There’s a vine that grows in South America that adapts to the form of the tree or bush it is climbing on. Its leaves look just like the leaves on the host plant. You might think this is chemically controlled. In that case, the vine might be detecting scent compounds from the bush and changing the shape of its leaves in a way that was genetically predetermined. Three different leaf shapes had been observed. Then a researcher came up with the idea of creating an artificial plant with plastic leaves and relocating our botanical chameleon to its new home. What happened next was amazing. The vine imitated the artificial leaves, just as it had imitated the leaves in nature. For Baluška this is clear proof that the vine can see. How else could it get information about a shape it had never encountered before? In this case, the usual suspects—chemical messages released by the host plant or electric signals between both plants—were absent. He went further. In his opinion, it is conceivable that all plants might be able to see. (...)

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Posted: Jun 24, 2021 - 6:53am

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for the plastophobes among us?






Funny to think of something that is critical to breaking things down, could be used to protect.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2021 - 6:10am

it was only a matter of time  


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Posted: Jun 24, 2021 - 5:57am

for the plastophobes among us?




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Posted: Jun 24, 2021 - 5:54am

Gas infrastructure across Europe leaking planet-warming methane
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Posted: Mar 13, 2021 - 8:39am

After Ice
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Posted: Jan 27, 2021 - 1:15pm

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 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Sorry, but been burnt once. NZ installed quotas early on and I lived in blissful ignorance for ten years thinking we had well-managed fish stocks. Turned out it was bullshit. This is not about virtue signalling (which you have flagged up with me before - duly noted) but a change in consumer mindset. We just have to stop eating wild fish. Period. And this includes farmed fish fed on wild fish. Everything else is just whitewash. 
 

Well then, why not reform those quota fisheries that are in your opinion failing?

Is social cooperation that difficult in New Zealand?  Do your regard people in New Zealand and around the world as culturally deficient, i.e., incapable of solving the simplest of social dilemmas?   
 
That's not the point. Every fish you take out of an already heavily stressed environment, just adds to the stress on that environment. It is time we learned to leave them well alone (which would be to solve the social dilemma, which, being social, is never simple), at least until they start to resemble something normal, which at last count, none of the marine environments are close to.
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