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Posted: May 15, 2025 - 11:31am

The Trump Administration Leaned on African Countries. The Goal: Get Business for Elon Musk.
Reporting Highlights
  • “Maximum Pressure”: The State Department conducted a monthslong campaign to push a small African country to help Musk’s satellite internet company, records and interviews show.
  • “Ram This Through”: Working closely with executives at Starlink, the U.S. government has made a global push to help expand Musk’s business empire in the developing world.
  • “Crony Capitalism”: Diplomats said the events were an alarming departure from standard practice — because of both the tactics used and the person who would benefit most from them.

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Posted: May 1, 2025 - 10:07am

New images reveal Elon Musk’s xAI datacenter has nearly doubled its number of polluting, unpermitted gas turbines



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Posted: Apr 25, 2025 - 4:13pm

The Guerrilla Marketing Campaign Against Elon Musk
As Tesla’s profits drop, a group called Everyone Hates Elon is going viral for plastering London with fake advertisements for the company, infiltrating a car showroom, and inviting the public to trash a Model S.

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Posted: Apr 24, 2025 - 8:31am

 islander wrote:

...  The robots, so far, are slightly less autonomous than his cars...

Fewer fatalities so far... but when he arms them we'll see what happens.

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Posted: Apr 24, 2025 - 8:17am

 rgio wrote:

You're right, but that sort of logical thinking very early on has come at a pretty high price (personally... thought the early insanity in the late teens was too much ).

FWIW... Elon would likely never compare Toyota and Tesla.  He's gonna ignore the hardware, and jump right to robotics, automation, AI and software.  The call the other day focused on the robot army coming to take the manufacturing jobs that are coming back to the US.  MAGA baby!



He actually has a point there.  There is a lot of technology that can be leveraged out and used in different areas under license. That is a valid are reasonable model - Tesla itself (when they were a company prior to musk declaring himself a 'founder') used a platform licensed from Lotus. It probably does help their valuation, but there is no justification for a 110 P/E unless you think that nearly all 4 wheel transportation would shift to a tesla platform in the future.  The robots, so far, are slightly less autonomous than his cars.  He's a hype machine (not necessarily a bad thing), we'll see what the future really brings.
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Posted: Apr 24, 2025 - 8:02am

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Tesla is a meme stock. The price is not supported by any 'normal' metric of valuation. The P/E is over 100 still and the price is half what it was a month ago. Meanwhile, Toyota makes money, makes a lot of hybrids, makes progress on their autonomous driving (without accidents), and has a P/E of 7. 

You're right, but that sort of logical thinking very early on has come at a pretty high price (personally... thought the early insanity in the late teens was too much ).

FWIW... Elon would likely never compare Toyota and Tesla.  He's gonna ignore the hardware, and jump right to robotics, automation, AI and software.  The call the other day focused on the robot army coming to take the manufacturing jobs that are coming back to the US.  MAGA baby!

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Posted: Apr 23, 2025 - 8:51pm

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So the stock is up 6% today.

I saw comments that people have bought into the idea that the company is now focused on Robots and other "non-car" things.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has his AI company merge with Tesla to use the veil of AI as protection against his cars.

This was an interesting new scandal, which doesn't surprise anyone....

Tesla odometer uses “predictive algorithms” to void warranty, lawsuit claims

How to turn your 50k warranty into a 40k warranty without even trying.


Tesla is a meme stock. The price is not supported by any 'normal' metric of valuation. The P/E is over 100 still and the price is half what it was a month ago. Meanwhile, Toyota makes money, makes a lot of hybrids, makes progress on their autonomous driving (without accidents), and has a P/E of 7. 
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Posted: Apr 23, 2025 - 9:28am

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Q1 earnings are out. They are bad. 400M$ in operating income, 595M$ in regulatory credits. Profits down, sales down, and we haven't yet seen the full impact of him pissing off a good portion of his customer base.    Also, for all the newly minted fans that love a rugged individualist pulling himself up by his bootstraps, that regulatory credit number is government subsidies. If not for tax money directed his way, they would have negative revenue.

Somewhere way back in this thread there are people calling him a business genius and saying 'just wait, you'll see'.


So the stock is up 6% today.

I saw comments that people have bought into the idea that the company is now focused on Robots and other "non-car" things.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has his AI company merge with Tesla to use the veil of AI as protection against his cars.

This was an interesting new scandal, which doesn't surprise anyone....

Tesla odometer uses “predictive algorithms” to void warranty, lawsuit claims

How to turn your 50k warranty into a 40k warranty without even trying.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:04pm

Q1 earnings are out. They are bad. 400M$ in operating income, 595M$ in regulatory credits. Profits down, sales down, and we haven't yet seen the full impact of him pissing off a good portion of his customer base.    Also, for all the newly minted fans that love a rugged individualist pulling himself up by his bootstraps, that regulatory credit number is government subsidies. If not for tax money directed his way, they would have negative revenue.

Somewhere way back in this thread there are people calling him a business genius and saying 'just wait, you'll see'.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 10:09am

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That's what they are going for, but this is what I see: 


Yeah, pretty much...

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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 10:05am

 Proclivities wrote:





That's what they are going for, but this is what I see: 

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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 10:02am

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Something circulated among tech bros many years ago and they all started doing it as a conscious thing to signal dominance . I think it's also a thing in the 'alpha male' crowd.  Now I see it everywhere and I think it really sends a different signal. 



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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:56am

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Something circulated among tech bros many years ago and they all started doing it as a conscious thing to signal dominance . I think it's also a thing in the 'alpha male' crowd.  Now I see it everywhere and I think it really sends a different signal. 
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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:37am

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The 'steeple hand' gesture thing the 'alpha male' crowd does is such a tell on their insecurity. 



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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:11am

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The 'steeple hand' gesture thing the 'alpha male' crowd does is such a tell on their insecurity. 


It's also a photo of someone who has never actually worn a ball cap. 

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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 8:49pm

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Enjoying the irony of Truck-drivin' Real 'Muricans (who used to blockade Tesla charging stations and roll coal at Teslas on the road) circling the wagons around a Tesla dealership to "defend" it. And not a single electric vehicle among them.

Can't think of a better way to keep customers from actually visiting to buy a car, btw.


< Squinting to see if it's an onion headline or not >
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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 5:34pm

 R_P wrote:

Enjoying the irony of Truck-drivin' Real 'Muricans (who used to blockade Tesla charging stations and roll coal at Teslas on the road) circling the wagons around a Tesla dealership to "defend" it. And not a single electric vehicle among them.

Can't think of a better way to keep customers from actually visiting to buy a car, btw.
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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 4:25pm

 R_P wrote:

The 'steeple hand' gesture thing the 'alpha male' crowd does is such a tell on their insecurity. 
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