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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 3:04pm

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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 1:46pm

 miamizsun wrote:


for anyone paying attention, this is it 
asking better questions/prompts gets better answers
i heard the term "prompt engineer" as in we need
so there are prompt generators popping up everywhere
this tech is a tool and it generally will do what you ask (within reason)
you just need to know how to ask/tell it what you want (in its language/understanding)


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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 9:22am

 geoff_morphini wrote:

Another interesting iteration in the scientific writing assignment was when I asked it to provide a reference list for the paper. It did, they were all fake. Real authors, real journals and books, just not the papers those authors had written. So, it gathers information but it really doesn’t seem to know where it gets it from. 

The secret sauce post below is an interesting recipe. 



yes models usually have an input and an output
the old saying garbage in = garbage out
there's not so much a shortage of info to go in, but more an issue of filtering
probably one of the reasons i'm really excited about stuff like wolfram alpha plugged into one of these models

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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 9:21am

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My take on AI (as an information goddess): Use it as A tool, not your only tool. And in regards to paper writing, if you aren't particularly interested in learning anything on the topic (or are so self-absorbed as to think you already know it all), use it for first drafts NOT final products.
 
Being self informed is golden except when it's not. I have learned so much that is wrong in my knowledge and opinions just by realizing that learning never ends and furthering my own inner wizard by allowing myself to be eternally curious.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 9:13am

My take on AI (as an information goddess):

Use it as A tool, not your only tool.

And in regards to paper writing, if you aren't particularly interested in learning anything on the topic (or are so self-absorbed as to think you already know it all), use it for first drafts NOT final products.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 9:10am

 Beaker wrote:
 geoff_morphini wrote:

Another interesting iteration in the scientific writing assignment was when I asked it to provide a reference list for the paper. It did, they were all fake. Real authors, real journals and books, just not the papers those authors had written. So, it gathers information but it really doesn’t seem to know where it gets it from.  The secret sauce post below is an interesting recipe. 

Yes.  The ChatGPT recipe as outlined is all about getting a better result from the AI.    The same can be said of  Google too - its often all in how you ask the question / conduct the search.  We've all seen many people who can't manage to use the very basics of Google to find an answer to a question.  I use Google, or other search engines multiple times a day.  It's a skill like anything else.  With the new emerging AIs , they're certain to make life easier for those who can't master Google - but again, they may also never master the AI.
 
Absolutely. I'm currently not interacting directly with any of the platforms, but if I were to experiment the first thing I would do is vary the way and words I used and repeat same fundamental task over and over just to see the results.
Maybe not vary. Just repeat initial request to see if result is same or evolves an answer.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 9:09am

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Elon Musk:
It somehow transitioned from an open source non-profit to a closed source for-profit.

Elon is again a bit loose with the truth.  The "somehow" still haunts him...obviously...

Elon was involved with OpenAI very early on (~2015/2016).  He left the board in 2018.  Here's the comment from OpenAIwhen he departed.  " Elon Musk will depart the OpenAI Board but will continue to donate and advise the organization."

Elon had committed $1B to OpenAI, a non-profit and what was intended to be an open-source tool.  At some point, he became unhappy with the progress and suggested that he should run the company.  That was rejected, so he left the board.  After leaving, Elon backed out of the commitment (ultimately giving $100M, but not enough to support the organization).  The new board decided that they couldn't generate the necessary capital as an NFP, so they incorporated it in 2019.   In 2020, Microsoft invested $1B.

$1B in 2019 for a company worth $30B today, or $42B last fall for a company worth $10B today (for stock option purposes, Elon valued the company at $20B this week) .   Elon's investment decisions recently suggest he's not as smart as the press clippings he reads.

What's really interesting...OpenAI is the hottest company in the world right now, and the CEO has no equity.  It's not the typical start-up.


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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 9:06am

 geoff_morphini wrote:

Another interesting iteration in the scientific writing assignment was when I asked it to provide a reference list for the paper. It did, they were all fake. Real authors, real journals and books, just not the papers those authors had written. So, it gathers information but it really doesn’t seem to know where it gets it from. 

The secret sauce post below is an interesting recipe. 



Yes.  The ChatGPT recipe as outlined is all about getting a better result from the AI.   

The same can be said of  Google too - its often all in how you ask the question / conduct the search.  We've all seen many people who can't manage to use the very basics of Google to find an answer to a question.  I use Google, or other search engines multiple times a day.  It's a skill like anything else.  With the new emerging AIs , they're certain to make life easier for those who can't master Google - but again, they may also never master the AI.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 8:35am

Another interesting iteration in the scientific writing assignment was when I asked it to provide a reference list for the paper. It did, they were all fake. Real authors, real journals and books, just not the papers those authors had written. So, it gathers information but it really doesn’t seem to know where it gets it from. 

The secret sauce post below is an interesting recipe. 
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 7:45am

Elon Musk:
As part of their investment, Microsoft gained exclusive access to the entire OpenAI codebase
ChatGPT is entirely housed within Microsoft Azure. When push comes to shove, they have everything, including the model weights.
It somehow transitioned from an open source non-profit to a closed source for-profit.

Source:
https://birdsite.xanny.family/elonmusk/status/1639138603371491329#m


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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 6:36am

 miamizsun wrote:
for anyone paying attention, this is it 
asking better questions/prompts gets better answers
i heard the term "prompt engineer" as in we need
so there are prompt generators popping up everywhere
this tech is a tool and it generally will do what you ask (within reason)
you just need to know how to ask/tell it what you want (in its language/understanding)


Exactly.


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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 6:30am

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I had planned to have students in a class write a short literature review on some physiographic provinces in western US. Have done this for a few years. First draft is typically pretty dreadful, then I edit/suggest and send back for final. Still often not that great (this is a common problem at many universities).  So, I did the assignment with ChatGPT this morning. First draft was pretty good with some bogus info. I went back and told it to write a more scientific version. In less than 2 minutes I had a passable paper (it did not pass review by GPTzero however). I told it to rewrite as a scientific paper written by a human. GPTzero only detected about 40% of text as AI. I'm glad I'm retiring in a few weeks...



for anyone paying attention, this is it 
asking better questions/prompts gets better answers
i heard the term "prompt engineer" as in we need
so there are prompt generators popping up everywhere
this tech is a tool and it generally will do what you ask (within reason)
you just need to know how to ask/tell it what you want (in its language/understanding)
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 6:24am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:



Is this what you call fake artificial or is it genuinely artificial / artificially genuine?  I'm getting lost. 


The cat analogy is odd.  Over the years I've had several cats who I taught to fetch.
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Posted: Mar 26, 2023 - 1:35am




Is this what you call fake artificial or is it genuinely artificial / artificially genuine?  I'm getting lost. 

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Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 4:49pm

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That is awesome. Is it possible that AI can help refocus our humility in regards to life? Like a compass? Or a telescope?

I had planned to have students in a class write a short literature review on some physiographic provinces in western US. Have done this for a few years. First draft is typically pretty dreadful, then I edit/suggest and send back for final. Still often not that great (this is a common problem at many universities).  So, I did the assignment with ChatGPT this morning. First draft was pretty good with some bogus info. I went back and told it to write a more scientific version. In less than 2 minutes I had a passable paper (it did not pass review by GPTzero however). I told it to rewrite as a scientific paper written by a human. GPTzero only detected about 40% of text as AI. I'm glad I'm retiring in a few weeks...

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Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 4:25pm

 Beaker wrote:
 oldviolin wrote:
That is awesome. Is it possible that AI can help refocus our humility in regards to life? Like a compass? Or a telescope?
Not just yet, apparently.  :-)
 
So that micro/macro level shaping is based on what? Decisions. Choices. Learned through environment and experiences. Interactions. Focus and discernment. "Agency" One of the older newcomer words relative to these sorts of discussions. An important word. Implying interaction through decisions even without choice. Hows and whys. What does it all look like when fed into a mechanical brain the size of humanity. I mean, juxtaposed with the information age.
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Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 4:11pm

 oldviolin wrote:
That is awesome. Is it possible that AI can help refocus our humility in regards to life? Like a compass? Or a telescope?


Not just yet, apparently.  :-)



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Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 3:51pm

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Posted: Mar 25, 2023 - 3:36pm

 Beaker wrote:
Wow!
 
That is awesome. Is it possible that AI can help refocus our humility in regards to life? Like a compass? Or a telescope?
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