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rgio

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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 2:46pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

I think it is going to go faster than you think. AI has reached a point where its ability to learn is outpacing its  drawbacks.  In my own field (translation) there have been serious inroads by AI tools but we have learned to incorporate them. Last year was my busiest ever. This year is also busy (so far).. but prices have plummeted. I can't afford to keep my employee on anymore, which means loss of quality and ultimately less competitiveness on  a market dominated by increasingly powerful AI machines. I have lost one major client so far (well, two actually, but won three others) but still..  It's only a matter of time.  Time to think about becoming a professional athlete I guess. 

Speed comes in many forms.  The ability to consume is now immense, but machines must be trained by humans for true AI.  The training speed is going to take time.  Google has the internet mapped, and the first few answers I got from Bard were fabricated crap.  

There is also a reality that content and mediation/training are quickly forming teams, and will charge more for focused knowledge.  Chat GPT might do an OK job translating, but I'm sure you have a favorite or two already.  You using those systems will train the datasets you have access to, but they won't improve translation for everyone.  The moats will get wider and the barriers to entry greater.

This year everyone will use as much as they can.  Soon, errors will begin to matter, and people will pull back from the blind acceptance of AI that's going on now.   We have entered the peak of inflated expectations per Gartner's Hype cycle....the trough of disillusionment awaits. 

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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 2:21pm

A greed bias
Medicare Advantage Uses Algorithms to Block Care for Seniors
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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:47pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


ok, scratch artists. 

what's left?    clergy, diplomats, plumbers..  might go for plumber.

I have a few friends who are plumbers - one can make a good living at it once you get established, but among the building trades, fewer people seem to want that one - especially when starting out.  Yeah, I can't see AI being able to do much of what it involves - at least unless/until the methods and materials of construction change drastically.
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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:39pm

 rgio wrote:

It's going to be a long time before AI replaces almost all jobs.  What will happen quickly is that it will separate occupations into "those using AI" and those not.  A lawyer who effectively uses it will be much more productive than one who doesn't.  Accountants, coders, and dozens of others. 

#20 on the list is Small business owners.  While it may not eliminate the need for people to run small companies, it very well may be a requirement to successfully market, manage, and grow a company.  At some point, not using AI as a small business owner is going to put your company at a competitive disadvantage.

FWIW - I've been using both GPT4 and Bard, and they both have some serious problems.


I think it is going to go faster than you think. AI has reached a point where its ability to learn is outpacing its  drawbacks.  In my own field (translation) there have been serious inroads by AI tools but we have learned to incorporate them. Last year was my busiest ever. This year is also busy (so far).. but prices have plummeted. I can't afford to keep my employee on anymore, which means loss of quality and ultimately less competitiveness on  a market dominated by increasingly powerful AI machines. I have lost one major client so far (well, two actually, but won three others) but still..  It's only a matter of time.  Time to think about becoming a professional athlete I guess. 


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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:31pm


rgio

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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:28pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


ok, scratch artists. 

what's left?    clergy, diplomats, plumbers..  might go for plumber.

Professional athlete.  

rgio

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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:26pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Typed up from twitter (yeah, I know)

secure jobs that AI can't replace:

1. therapists
2. social workers
....
19. plumbers
20. small business owners


It's going to be a long time before AI replaces almost all jobs.  What will happen quickly is that it will separate occupations into "those using AI" and those not.  A lawyer who effectively uses it will be much more productive than one who doesn't.  Accountants, coders, and dozens of others. 

#20 on the list is Small business owners.  While it may not eliminate the need for people to run small companies, it very well may be a requirement to successfully market, manage, and grow a company.  At some point, not using AI as a small business owner is going to put your company at a competitive disadvantage.

FWIW - I've been using both GPT4 and Bard, and they both have some serious problems.

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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:22pm

 Proclivities wrote:

There are already quite a few people (entities?) selling prints of AI-generated "art" for substantial amounts of money.  Midjourney is one of the popular apps (among very many) - just type in a prompt/description and it makes a "painting".   Not necessarily "replacing" artists or designers, but not helping either, except perhaps in the cases of artists or designers using the apps as a visualization/layout tool.


ok, scratch artists. 

what's left?    clergy, diplomats, plumbers..  might go for plumber.
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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:18pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Typed up from twitter (yeah, I know)

secure jobs that AI can't replace:

1. therapists
2. social workers
3. early childhood educators
4. nurses
5. artists
6. writers
......
ok, I'm going for 6 and 7.   or maybe an occupational therapist for ethical marine biologists. choices!


There are already quite a few people (entities?) selling prints of AI-generated "art" for substantial amounts of money.  Midjourney is one of the popular apps (among very many) - just type in a prompt/description and it makes a "painting".   Not necessarily "replacing" artists or designers, but not helping either, except perhaps in the cases of artists or designers using the apps as a visualization/layout tool.
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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 1:08pm

Typed up from twitter (yeah, I know)

secure jobs that AI can't replace:

1. therapists
2. social workers
3. early childhood educators
4. nurses
5. artists
6. writers
7. chefs
8. hairstylists
9. personal trainers
10. event planners
11. construction workers
12. occupational therapists 
13. archaeologists
14. marine biologists
15. ethicists
16. diplomats
17. clergy
18. electricians
19. plumbers
20. small business owners

ok, I'm going for 6 and 7.   or maybe an occupational therapist for ethical marine biologists. choices!
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Posted: Mar 22, 2023 - 11:03am

ChatGOP, alternative aggrieved intelligence
Conservatives Aim to Build a Chatbot of Their Own
Elon Musk, who helped start OpenAI in 2015 before departing three years later, has accused ChatGPT of being “woke” and pledged to build his own version.

Gab, a social network with an avowedly Christian nationalist bent that has become a hub for white supremacists and extremists, has promised to release A.I. tools with “the ability to generate content freely without the constraints of liberal propaganda wrapped tightly around its code.”

“Silicon Valley is investing billions to build these liberal guardrails to neuter the A.I. into forcing their worldview in the face of users and present it as ‘reality’ or ‘fact,’” Andrew Torba, the founder of Gab, said in a written response to questions.

He equated artificial intelligence to a new information arms race, like the advent of social media, that conservatives needed to win. “We don’t intend to allow our enemies to have the keys to the kingdom this time around,” he said.


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Posted: Mar 8, 2023 - 2:34pm

 R_P wrote:
Now that's spiffy. NYT garmenting themselves with the voice of the No. 1 intellectual of our times.
Alas, the message revealed just seems to fit their usual slime (otherwise, they've never made any intellectual fame in quoting Chomsky so far, afaik).

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Posted: Mar 8, 2023 - 2:27pm

Noam Chomsky: The False Promise of ChatGPT
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Posted: Feb 15, 2023 - 1:31pm

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Posted: Jan 17, 2023 - 8:25am

everyone should have a look at wolfram alpha
interesting, fun and helpful
apparently some are diddling with the open ai chat interface and using wolfram as one of the sources
potentially a fantastic tool





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Posted: Jan 13, 2023 - 12:10pm

 miamizsun wrote:







Just listened for a few minutes, but these seem compelling. 
Will give a listen later when time allows.
Thanks!

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Posted: Jan 13, 2023 - 5:01am

none of this should be considered investment advice (see proper disclaimers below the vids)
i have always recommend getting that advice from a trusted professional
nor do i endorse any of the numerous people hosting emad conversations

if people want to understand the tools that are here and the tools that coming regarding this type of ai these vids might be a good place to start
how this is being developed and given away and the exponential growth/speed of these tools/models is truly remarkable
emad is a brilliant guy on a mission to level the playing field and opportunity to build/create what he calls models
pushing this to tech to the edge v the middle is a bold move and creativity is about to into warp drive
for better or worse, i also can agree his reasons and concerns are valid
if i were you, i'd search for his conversations and listen carefully 
enjoy












ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Dec 5, 2022 - 8:15pm

 rgio wrote:


Ignoring content and automatically posting 5-star reviews doesn't sound like AI... it sounds like an if/then statement within process automation code.


Yeah it's the companies that call it AI; they have access to a database and can sometimes know what vehicle the person bought or repaired so it will mention that, but it's all just programming.

It doesn't post all 5-star reviews, but it seems to identify certain phrases and says "welp, that's good!" and posts it. So if you start out with "everyone was very friendly and helpful..." and then proceed to say how everything else is terrible, that's a combination that says "Post it!"
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Posted: Dec 5, 2022 - 7:29pm


rgio

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Posted: Dec 5, 2022 - 5:14pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

If somebody gives our company a good review in the middle of the night, a robot answers it and sometimes posts it online. It's usually pretty good AI; every reply is slightly different and responds in a way that usually sounds like it read what was said. Fun fact: If you absolutely ROAST a company in your review but give them 5 stars, the robots will thank them and post that to your facebook page.



Ignoring content and automatically posting 5-star reviews doesn't sound like AI... it sounds like an if/then statement within process automation code.

The OpenAI interactions are still very basic.  They are crazy impressive with certain coding languages (wonder why?), but when you get away from Google-type searches, it starts to fail pretty easily.  Painting, poetry, etc are fun, but real intelligence comes from creating correct output that can be verified or investigated, not just appreciated.

OpenAI's dalle2 or Midjourney are fun to play on and create "artwork".   Like this from Midjourney...the last selfie ever taken:https://www.gadgetany.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Midjourney-.png
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