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oldviolin

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Posted: Sep 22, 2022 - 6:03am

 phineas wrote:
I hardly can't  believe I missed the logo contest...
 
softly can often works in a pinch...
sunybuny

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Posted: Sep 22, 2022 - 5:59am

 MiMa wrote:


+1



Me too - I'd like to see the album cover sometimes.
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 11:15pm

I like the new website, but the light grey text is not clear enough against dark grey background IMO.  I think white text would make it easier to read (that said, these eyes are getting pretty old lol).
MiMa

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 9:17pm

 The_Enemy wrote:

New website looks great!

My only quibble is.... in the "info view", is there a way to hide the slideshow?



+1
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 8:59pm

I'm with The_Enemy, having a way to remove the slideshow would be great.

Bit of a surprise when I tuned in yesterday.  But change is (can be) good.  Have to train myself to yell 'Go William!' during a natty segue session.  WooHoo!

Miss the ability to add columns to the info view (using Firefox app on linux PC).  Saw reference to caret (shift 6?) but not working.
ExpatLarry

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 3:48pm

I just want to say that after using the new the player for a few days and after stabbing around and figuring out where things are, it's good. I had to figure out that the way to see the album cover that was no longer at the top of the page was to click the album title. duh. I got used to the floating photos at the top of the page pretty quickly. Good stuff. There are layers to go through, clicking gets you to interesting places, like seeing what songs you 'voted for' on any given album and being able to clear or change the ratings, which to me is important because I like to use the 'My Favorites' channel. So to me, once I figured things out, this new player really is a change for the better.  


Zuzet

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 1:49pm

Congratulations with the new website and the team for the future. That explains the new jingles and the new music past weeks.

I hope the top lists coming back.

Greetings from Belgium.
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 1:43pm

Someone else mentioned this, probably in the RP bugs and fixes thread, but I miss not being able to see my ratings on songs when watching on the info view.  
You do get the corresponding color to your rating.  I know you can get your ratings on the 3 horizontal bar view, but that seems unnecessary, to me anyway.

Also on the profile view you used to see all your song ratings and for that matter any other listeners rankings on their profile page.
As well as comments and forum posts.  I enjoyed that feature.
  
Can still see my rankings on the legacy site for myself, but not anyone else when using my old Mac.
When I try clicking on another listener's handle it takes me to the new site, which doesn't work for my old Mac.
On the legacy site I can see others song ratings when using a PC.  But no previous comments for myself or others.
Yes, comments can be seen in the thread they were posted.  That's just not the same for me.

Proclivities

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 1:13pm

 The_Enemy wrote:

New website looks great!

My only quibble is.... in the "info view", is there a way to hide the slideshow?


I'm not sure if it works in all systems or players, but in the web/browser view if I click on the "Music" tab, then click "What's Playing" from that drop-down, it will show the list of songs with the currently-playing song on top.  If you click that song title it shows the "old" view for the song, with the album art - not the slideshow - in that "info" space.
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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 12:58pm

I can't hardly believe I missed the logo contest...
The_Enemy

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 12:02pm

New website looks great!

My only quibble is.... in the "info view", is there a way to hide the slideshow?
kbs

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Posted: Sep 21, 2022 - 10:28am

I use the Windows App on my PC while listening on Sonos. It took me a good while to work out how to track at the last change, but alas I appear to be back as square one again, sometimes stuck on a long-gone track, and unable to find 'Sonos' in the list of things I want to track...
A pointer would assist me! 

*edit* - found a 'add services from your phone (not PC) app' advice entry, so went round that circle again a couple of times and now have tracking back on Sonos on the PC app, albeit showing the old site look and feel... This was all set up and working before the change.

The ability to remove the player from the screen for those listening via Sonos would be icing on the Cake (speaking of which...)

The 'toggle autorefresh' icon logic was not clear to me - locked or unlocked. Which is on and which is off? Empirically I find locked is on, which does make sense when you find it out.


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 10:37pm

 kcar wrote:


You raise good points.

On your first thought: I don't know if William and Co. take a song's average rating into account when determining the planned frequency of its airplay. I'd be surprised if they give it primary place of consideration; if they did, they'd create a risk of an undesirably constraining and self-reinforcing listener bias. And yes, then you'd have less variety and eclectic sampling of music getting airplay here.


The average rankings of songs are interesting but they only give you a limited sense of whether your musical tastes agree with other RP listeners. For the most part, my rating of a song is pretty close to the average—I'm in the sweet spot of listeners—but other times my rating is way off.

My own rating of a song fluctuates—some days  it's a 5, other times it's an 8. I don't think there's any point in trying to create set universal rules for rating a song. The average rating of a song doesn't provide an accurate empirical, unfluctuating, universally accepted rating of the song's quality. The average rating of a song captures a lot of different things—the quality of the mix/DJ's ability to set a mood, bandwagoning, and occasionally widespread, unchanging common opinion that a song is universally great or bad.

My collection of song ratings might give some great insight into what kinds of music I like and don't like, my personality, etc. But the collection of numbers I chose when listening to music needs other metrics to provide those great insights. I didn't choose those numbers rationally or systematically, and again my rating of any song is subject to great change.

Why do we need to have a system or science for rating songs here? I think such a thing would be doomed to failure. 


AFAICT, the ratings are entirely independent of the decision to play or not play a track, with the possible exception of some outliers that cause mockery. I think our incessant grumbling about songs they thought would be surefire hits... that might color William's opinion over time. Yet Porcupine Tree persists, so even that method has its limitations. 

Certainly a 9+ rating on RP should kill its chances of being played more often than once or twice a year. Because it means we all know it and love it and/or it's Beethoven and what frickin' moron is going to downvote a Beethoven track? I mean a lot of our 10s are things we deeply respect but... don't necessarily want to hear very often, TBH, am I right? 

I've said it before that a playlist of my favorite songs or my 10-rated songs would be miserable to listen to more than once or twice. Unless the segues were just amazing as well. 
kcar

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 10:11pm

 thisbody wrote:

Thinking about it, a simple like / dislike would really do. What good is this ranking from 1-10 anyway? It sometimes feels to me as if likes assemble on a certain average peak per song (1-10, usually around 6-7), and I can't help but feel that it may lower the variety of music being played here in a conservatice way... just like in, "Hey, we've played this 8 times this month, because people really like it".

If one rates a song, what difference does it make? For me, personally, I don't care if it is 6, 7, or 10. The great drawback to me seems, the more I listen to it, the less special it (that particular tune) becomes in the long run... until I've simply listened to it way too often... and a former 8 or 9 may eventually lead to a simple shrug.

For long-time listeners, I think the only reason to keep up their continued listening to RP lies in greater variety of sounds. Especially when so many musicians and music-afficionados keep listening, as they do on this webradio, I guess that is what drives music forward. Inspiration through more ecletic sound-material can't be underrated in this context, imho. 

Maybe a bit provocative to ask, but hey?



You raise good points.

On your first thought: I don't know if William and Co. take a song's average rating into account when determining the planned frequency of its airplay. I'd be surprised if they give it primary place of consideration; if they did, they'd create a risk of an undesirably constraining and self-reinforcing listener bias. And yes, then you'd have less variety and eclectic sampling of music getting airplay here.


The average rankings of songs are interesting but they only give you a limited sense of whether your musical tastes agree with other RP listeners. For the most part, my rating of a song is pretty close to the average—I'm in the sweet spot of listeners—but other times my rating is way off.

My own rating of a song fluctuates—some days  it's a 5, other times it's an 8. I don't think there's any point in trying to create set universal rules for rating a song. The average rating of a song doesn't provide an accurate empirical, unfluctuating, universally accepted rating of the song's quality. The average rating of a song captures a lot of different things—the quality of the mix/DJ's ability to set a mood, bandwagoning, and occasionally widespread, unchanging common opinion that a song is universally great or bad.

My collection of song ratings might give some great insight into what kinds of music I like and don't like, my personality, etc. But the collection of numbers I chose when listening to music needs other metrics to provide those great insights. I didn't choose those numbers rationally or systematically, and again my rating of any song is subject to great change.

Why do we need to have a system or science for rating songs here? I think such a thing would be doomed to failure. 
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 7:45pm

 haresfur wrote:


I don't advocate limits on ratings but someone who rates a shit-ton of songs as 1 should probably be listening to another radio station
Here ! Here!
Even the songs I don't care for... I don't rate lower than 3.
I figure the artist made the attempt initially. As my parents taught me years ago... If you don't have anything nice to say... don't say anything at all.


haresfur

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 6:20pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, limiting the amounts of any specific scores seems sort of unnecessary - though I have not rated everything a 10.


I don't advocate limits on ratings but someone who rates a shit-ton of songs as 1 should probably be listening to another radio station
KurtfromLaQuinta

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 3:42pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Yeah, limiting the amounts of any specific scores seems sort of unnecessary - though I have not rated everything a 10.
Just the ones I really like... which is a lot.


thisbody

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 2:34pm

 Proclivities wrote:
Yeah, limiting the amounts of any specific scores seems sort of unnecessary - though I have not rated everything a 10.

Thinking about it, a simple like / dislike would really do. What good is this ranking from 1-10 anyway? It sometimes feels to me as if likes assemble on a certain average peak per song (1-10, usually around 6-7), and I can't help but feel that it may lower the variety of music being played here in a conservatice way... just like in, "Hey, we've played this 8 times this month, because people really like it".

If one rates a song, what difference does it make? For me, personally, I don't care if it is 6, 7, or 10. The great drawback to me seems, the more I listen to it, the less special it (that particular tune) becomes in the long run... until I've simply listened to it way too often... and a former 8 or 9 may eventually lead to a simple shrug.

For long-time listeners, I think the only reason to keep up their continued listening to RP lies in greater variety of sounds. Especially when so many musicians and music-afficionados keep listening, as they do on this webradio, I guess that is what drives music forward. Inspiration through more ecletic sound-material can't be underrated in this context, imho. 

Maybe a bit provocative to ask, but hey?

Proclivities

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 12:40pm

 kurtster wrote:

So what about someone like good old Romeotuma / Lazarus or what ever he is these days ?  He rated everything a 10.

Yeah, limiting the amounts of any specific scores seems sort of unnecessary - though I have not rated everything a 10.
Steely_D

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Posted: Sep 20, 2022 - 12:29pm

 kurtster wrote:

So what about someone like good old Romeotuma / Lazarus or what ever he is these days ?  He rated everything a 10.


It's like "I love everyone!" which then means your love is indiscriminate and therefore unremarkable. 
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