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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 12:17pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Are you advocating a return to, you know, um, feudalism?  
 
Serf's up !  We have long been on this path in case you haven't noticed.  It is the goal of the Great Reset.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 12:15pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
As for calling those three, et al, oligarchs, I gotta disagree.

Republicanism and oligarchy co-exist just fine. Russian oligarchy is just as real, whether it's the backers of Putin or of Navalny...
 
I do not disagree with that at all. And it is a problem to be sure.  And it is a problem on both sides of the aisle here in the USA to be clear although you do not seem to agree by omission of democrats in your statement.

I just disagree with calling those three POTUS' oligarchs.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 12:08pm

 Ohmsen wrote:

ADD?



Yes, it's something I suffer from more frequently as time goes by it seems. 
So go on, tell me just what you are advocating.
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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 11:18am

 kurtster wrote:
As for calling those three, et al, oligarchs, I gotta disagree.

Republicanism and oligarchy co-exist just fine.

Russian oligarchy is just as real, whether it's the backers of Putin or of Navalny...
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Posted: Feb 5, 2022 - 10:50am

 Ohmsen wrote:

I get it. So, the Bidens, Trumps, Bushs, etc. aren't oligarchs. Ahum.

I suggest, you ignorancies (hinesses) study up on the histories (plural!) of monarchies in Europe, esp. the early modern era. Although that might just be askin' a little wee bit too much.



Are you advocating a return to, you know, um, feudalism?  

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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 11:43pm

 Ohmsen wrote:
I get it. So, the Bidens, Trumps, Bushs, etc. aren't oligarchs. Ahum. I suggest, you ignorancies (hinesses)

study up on the histories (plural!) of monarchies in Europe,

esp. the early modern era. Although that might just be askin' a little wee bit too much.
 
That is what I thought you were referring to.  Could not have been anything else, at least for anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of general world history.  Worse is that everyone is related.  Not too many branches on the family tree.

As for calling those three, et al, oligarchs, I gotta disagree.  While the Bidens and Bushs' take/took orders from them, Trump is not and took no orders from any that I am aware of.  Most anti war POTUS in my lifetime, too.
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 8:12pm

 phineas wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

... obviously by installing a totalitarian blanket regime over the entire continent. Yeah, right. Great way to do it. 
And what possible axis from Paris to Moscow are you referring to that lasted for centuries? 
"Totalitarian" is such a judgmental term. They prefer "oligarchy", if you don't mind. And even if you do.
 
{#Lol}  HEY PHIN!!!!  great to see you back!
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Posted: Feb 4, 2022 - 6:25pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

... obviously by installing a totalitarian blanket regime over the entire continent. Yeah, right. Great way to do it. 
And what possible axis from Paris to Moscow are you referring to that lasted for centuries? 


"Totalitarian" is such a judgmental term. They prefer "oligarchy", if you don't mind.

And even if you do.

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Posted: Feb 3, 2022 - 10:24pm

 Ohmsen wrote:

Whatever you may be meaning to observe, Hubert. 
My colors are transparently pro-peace.

... obviously by installing a totalitarian blanket regime over the entire continent. Yeah, right. Great way to do it. 
And what possible axis from Paris to Moscow are you referring to that lasted for centuries? 
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Posted: Feb 3, 2022 - 10:09pm

 Ohmsen wrote:


That's not even a veiled justification for endless wars and killings, imo. There used to be an axis (sic!) from Moscow over Berlin to Paris that held for centuries. Just saying. 



sic(k) indeed.  Nice of you to show your true colours

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Posted: Feb 3, 2022 - 9:59pm

hey, how about we let all Eastern bloc countries decide for themselves who they want to be affiliated to and we leave the US and Russia out of it. 
That work for you?
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