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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 2:05pm

 Steely_D wrote:
It's just unpopular with the big money folks, and people who think that national cooperation, that a rising tide floats all boats, is a crime.

IGMFU!

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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 2:02pm

 black321 wrote:
Just when the dems have some momentum with the unpopular abortion ruling, 
they blow it with unpopular student loan forgiveness.



I think you may be seeing a small segment. As unpopular as it is with some, it probably is very popular with others.   I don't think it was necessarily the best approach, but I also don't think trillions in tax breaks to billionaires and profitable corporations was very smart. If we are going down a rabbit hole of debt, let's give some $s to people who aren't already hoarding a stash and see if they spend it.  The economy is all about the movement of money. Billionaires have a pretty spotty record so far, let's stop repeating the mistakes of reaganomics that have led us here. 

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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 2:00pm

 black321 wrote:
Just when the dems have some momentum with the unpopular abortion ruling, 
they blow it with unpopular student loan forgiveness.


Not unpopular to the young hip college age voters, although they were likely Democratic-leaning to start.
It's just unpopular with the big money folks, and people who think that national cooperation, that a rising tide floats all boats, is a crime.
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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 1:52pm

Just when the dems have some momentum with the unpopular abortion ruling, 
they blow it with unpopular student loan forgiveness.
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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 1:38pm

Contraception leads to licentiousness and broken marriages! 
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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 6:59am

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I am open to infanticide and am not willing to morally condemn the Inuit, Spartans and others who conducted the practice.  Abortion should be a choice between the woman and her professional medical advisors, nobody else.   It should be enshrined in law passed by a legislative assembly or assemblies.

My point here is that the journalist is trying to shoehorn a national debate into a local political outcome with no substantive evidence other than innuendo. 



Sure, there is some conjecture there, but it is an opinion piece. From what I understand, he far outperformed what the polls said. There is other anecdotal evidence as well. The straight up vote in Kansas. The number of women registering to vote far out pacing men.


It’s interesting the number of conservatives that are against contraception as well as abortion. Either they don’t understand what contraception is or they largely believe women to be breeding stock. It will be interesting to see how the vote goes in Congress affirming universal access to contraception.


update; it appears that vote already happened in the House
The vote was 228-195, with eight Republicans joining every Democrat in voting in favor. All 195 "no" votes came from Republicans.

So what is the reasoning for that? I don't think they are all Catholics.
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Posted: Aug 25, 2022 - 12:53am

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In some states, American Women are Free? .....


I am open to infanticide and am not willing to morally condemn the Inuit, Spartans and others who conducted the practice.  Abortion should be a choice between the woman and her professional medical advisors, nobody else.   It should be enshrined in law passed by a legislative assembly or assemblies.

My point here is that the journalist is trying to shoehorn a national debate into a local political outcome with no substantive evidence other than innuendo. 
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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 6:17pm

 westslope wrote:

Talk about trying to jam an election outcome into a national political narrative that is popular with one partisan group.....  This reminds me of western journalists trying to spin the Arab Spring into some kind of pro-democracy movement when it was really about cheap subsidized food and fuel.

Do we have polling for this riding before the Supreme Court justices struck down Roe vs. Wade?   Or since the riding err district voted for Biden? 




In some states, American Women are Free? In others their bodies and movements are watched by the State? That's easily dismissed, ...
When you're not a woman.

Indeed, let's speak of Unlawful Search and Seizure. For every single woman living in the Dysfunctional States of America, HER BODY HAS JUST BECOME THE PROPERTY OF 13 STATES.  Legislation has been passed based on personal BELIEF. Not Science.
NOT allowed to make her own personal choices about her own body, she has no future. Economic or otherwise. 

As long as this Country dismisses the Death Penalty, War and School Shooting Massacres it has zero credibility implying it values Life.
This is just an indulgence in SELECTIVE MORALITY. 




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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 12:49pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Talk about trying to jam an election outcome into a national political narrative that is popular with one partisan group.....  This reminds me of western journalists trying to spin the Arab Spring into some kind of pro-democracy movement when it was really about cheap subsidized food and fuel.

Do we have polling for this riding before the Supreme Court justices struck down Roe vs. Wade?   Or since the riding err district voted for Biden? 

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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 11:42am

 Lazy8 wrote:

Wow, a .6% margin of victory. Clearly a ringing mandate!

Don't count that chicken yet.

Well, 2.6%, but still, not ringing.

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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 8:49am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Wow, a .6% margin of victory. Clearly a ringing mandate!

Don't count that chicken yet.
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Posted: Aug 24, 2022 - 8:29am

Democratic win in New York signals power of abortion issue in midterm vote
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Posted: Jul 27, 2022 - 3:44pm

Red and Blue America Will Never Be the Same *
There are long-term trends for both parties to be happy about.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2022 - 1:31pm

“If you want to be a good Republican in the current party, you have to signal to the voters who have bought into the election fraud story,” (...)
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 2:33pm

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty.

~Joseph Goebbels
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 2:30pm

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Barry Morphew told law enforcement he figured “all these other guys are cheating” and that his wife Suzanne would have voted for Trump anyway, according to an affidavit acquired by KKTV Colorado.



That's it. Everyone else cheats, so I might as well to offset it.
Other people voted down that good (not great) song so I'm gonna give it a ten to offset them.
I don't want all those brownies but other people might take them so I should take them all to make sure I have enough.
Everyone else has a gun, so I'm gonna need one or more to defend myself.

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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 2:12pm

 Steely_D wrote:


Since the only objective proof of voter fraud I've seen in the past years has ALL been Republican in nature - and even that is a piddling amount - putting all these voting obstructions in to "prevent voter fraud" is about as honest as the four Supreme Court justices saying they believe Roe is established law. 


From The Hill today (more “special” people):

A man who was tried in connection to his wife’s disappearance pleaded guilty Thursday to submitting a fraudulent ballot on her behalf for President Trump during the 2020 election.

Barry Morphew told law enforcement he figured “all these other guys are cheating” and that his wife Suzanne would have voted for Trump anyway, according to an affidavit acquired by KKTV Colorado.



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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 9:10am

 kurtster wrote:

The new voter laws in Georgia that everyone railed against as racist, oppressive and guaranteed to lower turnout and caused MLB's Allstar game to move from Atlanta to Colorado had the opposite effect.  They had a record turnout in their last election and there were few complaints overall as well IIRC.



Instead of taking a position that might be defensible*, you go with this? 

It's well known (fact? sure) that access to valid ID was more difficult for some of the population. It was very common to have that come up when I was in California; the state went on a multi-year multimillion dollar project to get people to get their ID card, and various orgs stepped in to cover the costs. But that was a couple of generations ago. I have to imagine that the problem is somewhat less than it used to be, but maybe in Georgia it's still serious. So the question to be answered is: how many eligible voters don't have a valid ID? I don't know, but maybe it's not actually a problem.

Doesn't negate the fact that the motivation behind the law is not vote integrity.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 9:09am

 kurtster wrote:

The new voter laws in Georgia that everyone railed against as racist, oppressive and guaranteed to lower turnout and caused MLB's Allstar game to move from Atlanta to Colorado had the opposite effect.  They had a record turnout in their last election and there were few complaints overall as well IIRC.



FTA: "As critics have correctly said, the law imposes significant new obstacles to voting. It also gives the Republican-controlled state government new power to assert control over the conduct of elections in Democratic counties.

The law does, however, contain some provisions that can be reasonably be described as pro-voting, and critics have not always described all of the text accurately."

But I can imagine that hearing that there are obstacles would be an incentive to get out there and stick it to the Man (aka Good Trouble). No harm in that. Who would be against more people voting?
(Me, for one, if the voters are ill-informed.)


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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 5:17am

The new voter laws in Georgia that everyone railed against as racist, oppressive and guaranteed to lower turnout and caused MLB's Allstar game to move from Atlanta to Colorado had the opposite effect.  They had a record turnout in their last election and there were few complaints overall as well IIRC.
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