haresfur wrote:

Yup. Maybe this is The Great Filter that ends us.

 haresfur wrote:

Correct. Given this information, antivax people still insist on taking the wrong stance. Just yesterday, I was in a little back-and-forth with someone who pre-vaccine was often heard shouting "masks don't protect me" and we said no, they protect others. So now the vax is out and the very same person said "I guess you're not aware but the vaccine doesn't protect others so get it for yourself and let me choose" so a year ago they wouldn't bother because it was only to protect others and now they won't bother because it's only to protect ourselves. Joke's on her though: the vaccine protects everyone if most of us get it. Otherwise it's a sand castle and eventually no one is protected. *sigh* 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Stop me if I said it before, but my nightmare scenario is that the rampant covid and resulting mutations in the unvaxxxed population result in something that the vaccinations don't protect against and it runs like crazy through the people who did the right thing and got vaccinated. The way to slow mutation is to reduce the number of cases.

COVID-19: Oklahoma, other US states run out of ICU hospital beds amid Delta strain surge

 black321 wrote:

Right, but I was under the impression that you were noting the 13% or so vaxxed+hospitalized. I don't think it's out of line, considering the raging infection rate among unvaxxed who are not taking any precautions anywhere.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Yes, sure breakthroughs...but most of the data I've seen has reported 90% of admissions were unvaxxed. 
Also need to consider some may not be willing to admit they weren't vaxxed, and got sick.

 black321 wrote:

The math people around here can probably help figure out what a 95% efficacy translates to in the real world, but nobody said it would be impossible to catch covid if you're vaccinated. If I'm vaccinated, you're vaccinated, and one of us catches it, it wasn't from me to you or vice versa. With a more-virulent strain running roughshod over the 1/2 the country that's unvaxxed, and those people have no qualms about sharing the virus with anyone and everyone, of course there's going to be a maximum level of breakthrough cases. I'm assuming the 95% figure was based on masking and distancing efforts in place, not fuckit-lets-party superspreaders everywhere.

 cc_rider wrote:

for the life of me, i don't understand this mask debate. 
yeah, I know politics, but how big of a hypocrite can you be?

 black321 wrote:

Perhaps because even the Okies smart enough to get vaccinated are still dumb enough to believe that makes them bulletproof.

 Red_Dragon wrote:

87% admitted to hospital unvaccinated seems like a lot of vaxxed patients?

Every hospital in the state is at or near capacity. People are dying waiting for beds. The ambulance services are overloaded.


Governor Stitt: "There's no emergency."

Oklahoma GOP likens vaccine mandates to persecution of Jews

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Coworker's dad is going to make a headline like this, but at least he didn't make a big stink about it, he just told his Dr. he got the shot when he never did.

OKC man who didn't believe in vaccine fighting for his life with COVID-19-induced pneumonia

Edmond residents freak out at City Council meeting over Pride Month declaration…

BTW... Edmond is like THE whitest, most evangelical town in a state filled with them.

The Stittwit did, in fact, sign the bill into law.

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Maybe you can just purchase a franchise of the government from another state so these people don't need to do anything except follow what's in the book.

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