oldviolin wrote:

I'm with you on Tim's overall take, and found he came across as humble, after he confessed to holding a strong position he'd osmosed from the MSM. I spent 7 years in the pharma testing industry, and jumped on the 'vaccinate' bandwagon for the couple of months. After noting the shaky certitude of the UK's Chief Medical Officer - his body language wasn't supportive of his "safe and effective" statements in the Autumn of 2020 - I really started pay attention to dissident voices, eg Dr Robert Malone.  This seed was supported in its growth by my knowing a little bit of the "perp sheet" of the likes of Pfizer, amongst other major pharma providers. So as a consequence of not "toeing the party line" at home (ie. England, UK) I've said goodbye to family and friends as a consequence of holding my line to what I consider as "right and true". That is, the Truth. That as the facts on the origins of SARS-Cov-2 build, of governments' collusion with big pharma, big tech, and  their ties to the WEF, holding our representatives to account is more vital than ever.

unfortunately china is going through the fire right now...

How Many Republicans Died Because the GOP Turned Against Vaccines?

No country has a perfect COVID vaccination rate, even this far into the pandemic, but America’s record is particularly dismal. About a third of Americans—more than a hundred million people—have yet to get their initial shots. You can find anti-vaxxers in every corner of the country. But by far the single group of adults most likely to be unvaccinated is Republicans: 37 percent of Republicans are still unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated, compared with 9 percent of Democrats. Fourteen of the 15 states with the lowest vaccination rates voted for Donald Trump in 2020. (The other is Georgia.)

We know that unvaccinated Americans are more likely to be Republican, that Republicans in positions of power led the movement against COVID vaccination, and that hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died preventable deaths from the disease. The Republican Party is unquestionably complicit in the premature deaths of many of its own supporters, a phenomenon that may be without precedent in the history of both American democracy and virology. (...)

More COVID More Measles?
There are a number of potential problems children are facing that are related to the ongoing SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, not the least of which is a rise in vaccine hesitancy and even anti-vaccine belief.

But I’m a pediatrician, so what about the kids? Won’t anyone think about them? Yes! Unsurprisingly, children have also suffered greatly over the past nearly three years. In the United States alone, there have been roughly 15 million documented pediatric COVID-19 cases, which is undoubtedly a massive underestimate of the true incidence. And in addition to the direct repercussions of infection, with a non insignificant number of deaths and many more hospitalizations for severe disease, children have also had to deal with a variety of other problems, not all of which could have been predicted. Nobody was expecting MIS-C in early 2020, for example.

Adding to the possibility of that severe and even life-threatening inflammatory condition, even children with only mild COVID-19 are at increased risk of developing diabetes, to give just one of several more examples. There have also been significant increases in ED visits and hospitalizations for mental health crises in our teen and young adult populations. This really is just the tip of the iceberg as there are a number of post-COVID-19 conditions that have been seen in children, with as many as 25% still having symptoms a month after diagnosis. Between 2% and 10% of children diagnosed with COVID-19 will ultimately develop the more disruptive syndrome of post-acute sequelae of COVID (PASC), also known as “long COVID”.

But today I want to discuss a different issue related to the pandemic that is indirectly harming children and has the potential to do so for a very long time. During the peak of the pandemic, when people were trying to stay home and avoid COVID-19, millions of children got behind on their routine immunizations. This was, and is, a worldwide phenomenon. The WHO recently estimated that 40 million children missed a dose of the measles vaccine in 2021 alone, putting them and potentially millions more around them at risk of developing this potentially deadly disease.

In addition to lack of access, the pandemic has also appeared to fuel a wave of anti-vaccine sentiment in the United States. Being against routine childhood immunization, something that has saved countless lives and prevented suffering in so many innocent children, is becoming a plank in the GOP platform. This growing number of people that are wary of vaccines is adding to the number of children who will not be protected from vaccine-preventable illnesses. (...)

 Steely_D wrote: 
Respectfully, he doesn't discuss the virus or vaccinations other than to say that he is on board with the science. He is speaking truth to power about the way it has been used as a hammer to silence alternative experiences and opinions or evolving if contrarian information. The overall societal bugs, as it were. IMHO worth listening to.

 westslope wrote:
Gotta say, just like how I don’t care what MTG has to say about medicine, I don’t care what Tim has to say. I’d rather hear from people who do it for a a living, after long periods of study of complex topics, for decades, for multiple administrations. If only we had someone with that much understanding of the problems of epidemics and public health…

 sirdroseph wrote:
Evil?  Mean-spirited, nasty, condescending, arrogant, sure!    Does it have to be "evil"?   

So what does Tim Robbins say?    How about summarizing the video in a paragraph or two?  Please.

 sirdroseph wrote:
Quite a big swing at people they've never met. Up until now everything posted was so thoughtful and measured.

Do COVID-19 vaccines cause “turbo cancer”?
Over the last several months, antivaxxers have been claiming that COVID-19 vaccines cause “turbo cancer”, cancers (or cancer recurrences) of a particularly aggressive and fast-growing variety diagnosed in younger and younger patients. “Turbo cancer” is not a thing, and the evidence cited is as weak as any antivax “evidence”, including anecdotes and misinterpretation of epidemiology.

 steeler wrote:

and thanks for caring
you know we all get caught up from time to time
i tend to have a risk adjusted pov and i blame work lol
thinking overall there's enough good data and evidence for people to make an educated decision one way or another
and even tho i might respectfully disagree with some i still feel it is worth engaging honest players

peace

 Steely_D wrote:

bingo

 sirdroseph wrote:
LOL

Also, essential oils. "Purity."

 steeler wrote:
And the subtext of “lookit me; I know more than the people who spent decades studying this topic because I fell into a YouTube algorithm that only feeds into my confirmation bias!” 

 miamizsun wrote:
You have followed it more closely than me, and most other lay persons. Thanks for your posts  here the past few years sharing  what you have found/learned.

 steeler wrote:
the data i've seen indicates that is accurate
i think the mrna lipid(fat) nanoparticle delivery system was originally developed with treating cancer as a primary goal
and it was just recognized for this on the news recently
it has a lot of promise/potential

vaccine technology, like all other biotech is riding the wave of exponential computing power
it looks like in the near future we are going to see some dramatic diagnosis and treatment options

covid can be a nasty bug, especially if you catch the virus
it may be safe to say that if a person had problems with the spike protein in the vaccine that catching it in the wild would be much worse
(obviously the virus replicates infinitely more of that protein than you get in a the shot - higher viral load = poorer outcomes)

 sirdroseph wrote:

consider your self fortunate
especially if your work setup allows you to do your job remotely

 sirdroseph wrote:
There is an element of luck of the draw in regard to becoming infected. Yes, there are those who have had vaccines and got Covid. There also are those who are unvaccinated and got Covid.  Conversely, there are those, vaccinated and unvaccinated, who have not had Covid. Not sure what — if anything — that proves?  My understanding is that the vaccinations mitigate the chances of being hospitalized or dying.

Fun game we all like to play ratio number of shots you have had to how many times you have had covid.  I am 0/0 and yes I have had an antibody test.  The only thing I know is I have not indirectly killed anyone from covid spread and sleep like a baby.