I want to know when this entire family is going to be prosecuted!

 cc_rider wrote: 

Is Fraud Part of the Trump Organization’s Business Model?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/is-fraud-part-of-the-trump-organizations-business-model

 steeler wrote: 
He's gonna be re-elected no matter what it takes.  He'll cheat the system again and then will appoint himself president for life.  Especially if the house and the senate are in his back pocket after midterms.  Make no mistake about it.  This guy is dangerous.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 

I am hoping that when we reach the end of this debacle, that the Trump presidency will serve at least as a handy rejoinder for whenever someone says: If only we had a businessman as President.  

 cc_rider wrote:
 

“Atlantic City fueled a lot of growth for me. The money I took out of there was incredible”, Trump recalled. At one point, his casinos employed over 8,000 people, almost all of whom lost their jobs.

 R_P wrote: 
I just read a New Yorker article that suggests, with mounting evidence, the Trump Organization's business model is fraud. Not real estate or casinos or even branding, but good old-fashioned fraud.

I know you are shocked.
c.

Trump subverts our democracy with his lies

President Trump’s constant, relentless, remorseless lying is a central feature of his presidency, an unprecedented threat to our democracy and — in my view — an impeachable offense.

I realize it does not qualify as news that Trump lies all the time. I  also realize it is not always possible to draw a bright line between  untruths Trump knows are untrue and conspiratorial nonsense he might  foolishly believe. But never before have we had a leader who so pollutes the national discourse with garbage that he at least ought to know is  false — and I fear the consequences will be with us long after Trump is  gone.

At his inauguration, Trump swore to “faithfully execute the office of president.” He violates that oath when he speaks to the nation in bad faith. Other presidents have lied — Lyndon B. Johnson about Vietnam, Richard M. Nixon about Watergate, Bill  Clinton about Monica Lewinsky. But never have we had a president who lies about everything , who invents his own fake facts, who continues to trumpet patent falsehoods even when confronted with the actual facts.

And yes, undisputed facts do exist and can be ascertained. I am not talking about subtle matters of interpretation; I’m taking about knowing  falsehoods, commonly known as lies. (...)

Trump’s $110 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia: still fake

Pump and Trump
Donald Trump claims he only licensed his name for real estate projects developed by others. But an investigation of a dozen Trump deals shows deep family involvement in projects that often involved deceptive practices.

 R_P wrote:
 

It's not a lie if you believe it.
— George Costanza

In this journey, I will never lie to you. I will never tell you something I do not believe.

Direct involvement of the president and his son in this year’s effort to silence Ms. Clifford hasn’t previously been reported. The accounts of that effort recently provided to The Wall Street Journal suggest that the president’s ties to his company continued into this year and contradict public statements made at the time by the Trump Organization, the White House and Mr. Cohen.

 pigtail wrote:
 
Sometimes.  Sometimes its sooooo effing obvious!

 R_P wrote: 
  Just do it!  DOH! 

 pigtail wrote:
 
Maybe we need a "Trump Blames" thread as well.

 kurtster wrote: 
LOL diversion works!

 kcar wrote: 
Blame Obama for what exactly ?  I said ...

  
Thought the thread was about lying presidents, not blaming anyone for anything.

At least get yer stuff straight.

 R_P wrote: 

 pigtail wrote: 
"healthcare is hard were his words if I'm not mistaken"

 
You're close: 'Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated.'


To which Stephen Colbert responded: "Everybody knew health care could be so complicated!!!"


 
 
"Quit blaming Obama for your president's shortcomings and failures.  It gets so tiresome."



YES. Thank you. Tell us, kurtster: who outside of Trump (On-the-Highway-to-Hell HuckaSanders) talks about Trump being a genius? Seems like everyone in the White House and Congress thinks he's a goddamned idjit. 
 

 kurtster wrote: 
You could have with Obama's original plan.  Too bad he had to completely bastardize it to get it through the senate.  Now we have none and your idiot president thought that would be such an easy fix. DUH healthcare is hard were his words if I'm not mistaken.  Quit blaming Obama for your president's shortcomings and failures.  It gets so tiresome.  Obama is not in power any more and trying to live up to all his successes is an epic Trump fail no matter what spin y'all put on it.