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black321

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Posted: Mar 7, 2023 - 7:26am

Anyone smell bacon?


Oil companies line up for billions of dollars in subsidies under US climate law 
Inflation Reduction Act’s tax credits include technologies favoured by fossil fuel sector

An oil industry that opposed President Joe Biden’s signature climate law is now manoeuvring to claim billions of dollars of US tax credits established by the legislation.

The Inflation Reduction Act, passed in 2022, aims to slash greenhouse gas emissions by supercharging clean energy industries. Its $369bn in climate provisions has sparked new investments in renewable power generation and in manufacturing everything from electric vehicle batteries to solar panels.

But the law also includes generous incentives for a set of lower-carbon technologies and fuels where oil and gas executives argue they hold a big advantage. Oil companies are starting to plough cash into projects to capture and lock away carbon dioxide, to retool refineries for making biofuels, and produce low-emission hydrogen, all supported by the IRA’s green subsidies.

“There’s a lot of activity in this space, a lot of interest, particularly with the IRA,” ExxonMobil chief executive Darren Woods told investors last month.

“I think we’re very well positioned there,” he said. “This is not a game for start-ups. These are large, world-scale projects that require the kind of project expertise that we have, require the kind of size and balance sheet capacity that we have.”

Energy trade associations including the powerful American Petroleum Institute opposed the IRA before Biden signed it into law in August, calling its tax increases and new government spending “the wrong policies at the wrong time”.

Now oil companies are moving into position to take advantage of the IRA. They include shale producer Continental Resources, Gulf of Mexico-focused oil company Talos Energy and Phillips 66, an oil refiner. Exxon in December increased planned low-carbon spending by 15 per cent and outlined plans to invest $17bn on its low-carbon business through to the end of 2027, about 10 per cent of overall spending.

https://www.ft.com/content/28b...
westslope

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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 10:37am

 Proclivities wrote:

Well, I've seen no citation where either of them actually said that in those exact words.  Cows produce methane which is non-toxic to humans, carbon dioxide is toxic - so the "garage' experiment is not a valid test.  Pollution and poisonous fumes are not the same things.  Closer to what they (and others) have said is that methane released worldwide by cows is estimated to be comparable to the amount of pollution released by cars and trucks, and that methane is more potent when it comes to warming the planet.  


True, true, true.   But it is funny (thanks kurtster!).  And it does hint at something that climate change/disruption activists have missed.

Climate emissions and health emissions are highly correlated.  

Reduce climate change emissions and one will end up with a healthier population.  A healthier population that is in a far better position to cope with deadly threats such as the SARS2 pandemic.  

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In passing, harsh restrictions on natural gas flaring would have likely slowed the pace of the once frenetic shale oil  boom and created more social wealth for the USA instead of destroying social wealth.   Unfortunately, such regulations would interfere with the 'get rich quick 'n easy' and closely related 'freedom' narratives.   


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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 6:41am

 miamizsun wrote:

hey i've got an idea!
maybe we should let this thread scab over and heal up a bit?



“The wound is the place where the Light enters you.”
― Rumi



Indubitably...
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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 6:30am

 Manbird wrote:


why are you even here?



BYBHIW


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Posted: Oct 27, 2021 - 4:32am

hey i've got an idea!
maybe we should let this thread scab over and heal up a bit?



“The wound is the place where the Light enters you.”
― Rumi

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 11:56pm

 kurtster wrote:

No. 

Maybe I should start drinking like the rest of you.

No, not a good idea.  I don't want to be like the rest of you.


why are you even here?
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:51pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
You should try tea.
 
No. 

Maybe I should start drinking like the rest of you.

No, not a good idea.  I don't want to be like the rest of you.
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:46pm

 R_P wrote:

I've heard that gives you hairy palms and makes you go blind.



Scintillating scotomas!  
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:45pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
You should try tea.

I've heard that gives you hairy palms and makes you go blind.

NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:40pm

 kurtster wrote:

You're a real piece of work.  Spineless, gutless, afraid of everything and unprincipled you are.

But then look who you voted for.  And you believe everything CNN tells you on top of it all.

Sweet dreams of Trump and the Wuhan Virus. 

I know you are looking forward to waking up in your own personal hell in the morning, every morning in your red state Trumpland.

Let's go Brandon !!!    
{#Whipit}


You should try tea.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:38pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Also smoking dope when it's ILLEGAL. Just a little "civil disobedience", right?

 
You're a real piece of work.  Spineless, gutless, afraid of everything and unprincipled you are.

But then look who you voted for.  And you believe everything CNN tells you on top of it all.

Sweet dreams of Trump and the Wuhan Virus. 

I know you are looking forward to waking up in your own personal hell in the morning, every morning in your red state Trumpland.

Let's go Brandon !!!    {#Whipit}
NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 9:25pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Also smoking dope when it's ILLEGAL. Just a little "civil disobedience", right?



I know. And smoking dope turns you all into ALIENS. I know. I've seen it happen.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:50pm

 R_P wrote:

Sh!t-posting while at work?! Does your boss know about this disturbing lack of productivity?



Also smoking dope when it's ILLEGAL. Just a little "civil disobedience", right?

haresfur

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:50pm

 kurtster wrote:

wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Contrary to accusations made by haresfur, I do not work under the influence of anything.

Dealing with crazy people (present company excepted) is best done sober and as lucidly as possible.


Without getting into an argument about potential longer-term residual effects of marijuana, I believe my point is that that I'm glad I no longer see the urologist who was busted for reckless driving under the influence of drugs with children in the back seat, whether or not he was high when he was blasting a green laser at my insides like a Jedi.
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:46pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Sh!t-posting while at work?! Does your boss know about this disturbing lack of productivity?
 
Yep.  When no one is coming through the door (Thanks, Joe !) you got to do something to stay awake.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:38pm

 kurtster wrote:
wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Sh!t-posting while at work?! Does your boss know about this disturbing lack of productivity?
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 7:00pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:
I'm in a mood

Hit the bong bro!
 
wrong assumption, as usual.  I was at work when I posted stuff earlier today. 

Contrary to accusations made by haresfur, I do not work under the influence of anything.

Dealing with crazy people (present company excepted) is best done sober and as lucidly as possible.
R_P

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 3:10pm

 kurtster wrote:
I'm in a mood

Hit the bong bro!

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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 3:00pm

 Proclivities wrote:
Yeah, I don't think I'd want to be in a room or garage filled with methane for very long, though I should have specified "relatively non-toxic".

I won't judge but if you are going to spend the night with a cow, get a hotel
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Posted: Oct 26, 2021 - 1:51pm

 kurtster wrote:

Methane exposure, particularly when experienced in high concentrations, can lead to methane poisoning. While it is considered relatively non-toxic,

its primary threat is that it functions as an asphyxiant, similar to the threat posed by carbon monoxide exposure.
Yeah, I don't think I'd want to be in a room or garage filled with methane for very long, though I should have specified "relatively non-toxic".
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